I just tried to log into the members section of xo companions and got a message saying I was banned. I emailed them but haven't heard back. Not sure why I would be banned considering I give them alot of business. I had to cancel an appointment earlier in the week but that was only because a close friend of mine passed. Has this happened to anyone else?
Based on the cancelation policy if you gave no notice it will be a website ban.
I gave them more than a 5 hour notice and they acknowledged it with a return email the same day.
You should have paid some kind of cancellation fee. They lost money , because 5 hour is too small notice to book.
Their posted policy is 4 hours. Inside that 4 hour window, it’s a $199 cancellation fee until access to website is restored. But agency doesn’t open until 9AM, so if Cayden cancelled an 11AM appointment at 6AM (5 hours by his clock), the reality is he only gave the agency 2 business hours working notice, hence the cancellation fee issue.
I’ve heard this issue has been resolved to the satisfaction of both parties. All’s well that ends well. 👍🏻
Well if that is the case and you have been using their services for a while it should be resolved shortly, at least hopefully.
That is par for the course as far as agencies are concerned, some are crazier than others.
Per my experience, they all work under the premise that their girls can do no wrong and their clients (who actually pay the darn cash) can do no right.
Try giving a honest review that is not up to the mark and see what happens 
Use them only as a last resort.
Did you share unblurred photos with anyone? Post a link to those photos,
Did you try to get a girls private contact information? Share yours?
The e-mail you received from them may have ONLY been an acknowledgement of your cancellation - not that they weren't going to punish you. You say you cancelled with more than five hours notice, but what time did they response to your e-mail. Saying you responded with more than five hours, but your appointment was at Noon and you cancelled at Seven, doesn't really count. If they don't start checking e-mails until 9:00 a.m. and they have three hours to fill a noon appointment, you've made it difficult for them to fill your time slot
I'm not sure why you're assuming that OP might have done something and that XO does not act like a typical agency. OP has clearly stated that he cancelled.
XO is no better than other agencies such as AME/Jennifers.
How many XO girls have you seen? if you're honest then you'll accept that many of them lacking in performance but I've seen spineless people give good after good reviews and basically ruin the experience for others.
I've used all three and use them only as a last resort when johnny does not really care much about service. Keep expectations low so as to not get disappointed and still sometimes I do.
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“XO is no better than other agencies such as AME/Jennifers”
And better said no worse. They obviously had reason as such his saying he canceled might have been justified for banning him.
Every agency has there own issues. And because some realize this they don’t recommend using agencies.
Independents have issues also. But everyone should weigh the issues when it comes to there own interests or just stop hobbying. Seriously, those with the greatest interest to complain just aren’t serious
OP asked why he was banned from XO. My questions are diving into what did 'cancel' mean and parsing the situation into parts that can be analyzed.
To your point, you are correct, service is average. You see XO girls for their looks, and do your research, because there are some stunningly beautiful girls. Not like the 50/50 shot you get with AME or Jennifer's. If you're honest, you'll admit that its a crap shoot with both agencies, and 50/50 is a fair assessment of really good providers to bad providers.
K-Agencies are very good and run a tight ship. Do you consider those 'typical' agencies? If so AME and Jennifer's fall way short if you're including them in the average agency.
I've been bait and switched by Jennifers Models, and they admitted it. Like I've said before, AME has sent me to the wrong hotel, +30 minute waits, Jaime yelling at you for a bad review. Bad being 8/8. No such problems with XO. I've also been victim of the inflated reviews for the girls for both those agencies. With that factor and others mentioned, I choose not to use them.
I agree 50/50 crap shoot. And no K agencies I know are above average.
Are you East Coast or West Coast? DMV agencies are outstanding, and at that price point, untouchable, period? You've got to be kidding me when you say K-agencies aren't above average. You ever use AME or Jennifer's models? West Coast, I would say 1:3 K-agencies can match the DMV agencies for quality and ease of booking.
I agree 50/50 crap shoot. And no K agencies I know are above average.
It's a different cup of soup with higher volume, turnover and taste.
Sorry, I was agreeing that the K agencies are above average, and yes in the DMV I frequent several.
The OP asked if anyone else had been banned from CIP Section of website, and admitted he cancelled. How could you read into the follow up question that the OP was being blamed for getting banned? I read it as more of a shrugged shoulders “Gee, I dunno why you were banned. Was it per chance something else?”
Until we get an update from the OP, we won’t really know. But here’s my two cents... That agency’s website/appointment system is one of the most cleanly built and highly automated in the industry. In all likelihood, when the appointment was switched to cancellation, a coding instruction then closed the client’s access to the VIP page. It might take a manual input to restore access, which makes sense. Did the client cancel in appropriate time? If not, is a cancellation fee due? If so, has the fee been paid?
It seems like you’ve got a bigger issue with agencies in general than you do with our good friend’s lack of access to unblurred photos. That’s a valid and rather common opinion among hobbyists. What I don’t get is your critique of the agency listing services that the girls don’t provide. They only list what the girl says she’ll do. If she changes her mind, that’s not the agency’s fault. And she’s got a right to change her mind, doesn’t she? One thing with Russian girls, if the provider and hobbyist don’t “click”, the girl is not going to give her best effort. I don’t necessarily fault the agency for that, it’s just goes with the territory when you decide to spend time with a confidently hot Russian babe.
Obviously, if I were that handsome, I wouldn't be doing this.
I would say book one that’s highly reviewed performance wise. There are other threads where providers seem to place a much higher value on attitude and courtesy than looks. You seem to be a good dude. Given your reticence though, I wouldn’t book the girl who you think will be your 10/10 ATF. That ups the odds of you being disappointed. I would book a girl, if I were you, that has consistent reviews of being very GFE. Definitely don’t go with one where multiple guys mentioned reviews said DFK, but she didn’t seem into it.
They always seem to have 1, 2 and even 3 available to choose from. Jump in the pool and let us know how it went!!!!
I'm looking. But the ones I have immediate attraction towards are the same ones with those tepid reviews. But yes, a huge degree of GFE, would be my desired attitude. Not looking for " the wife experience ". Lol
I'd suggest that you wait till you see someone with solid reviews.
Remember, many clients give good reviews even for sub-standard service lest they piss off the agencies. Hence, visiting ones with 'meh' reviews means a higher chance of getting disappointed.
But why would one look at an agency that would ban clients in such a manner? Agencies need to treat clients much better than they do now.
XO banned access to their unfiltered info section to ONE guy who cancelled short notice. Balance that against hundreds of reviews from hundreds of satisfied clients. Given that Cayden is a regular customer, I would be interested if he has any updates on his status with XO. But seriously, even if he reports back that he still thinks he was treated unfairly, why would I deny myself the opportunity to see a hot babe like XO Alina again when she returns next month?
I think the question is - Is XO better than other agencies? IMHO, the answer is NO.
XO has good setup, the best I'd say. But as I noted in another post, the Russian XO girls that I've seen are - unpredictable, moody and greedy. Got only push-back from XO when I mentioned it to them, nothing else.
I'd like to hear from people who, after getting a less than satisfactory service, brought it to the attention of Xo, and see what response they got.
So, yes, I agree why XO? I've had much much better service from BKS, Matchless, Flawless, etc.
No one is denying one's right to visit whomever one wants to. But these threads are like reviews of agencies. One has the right to visit a provider with bad reviews, but why would anyone want to?
Hence one needs to go to any agency with "Realistic" expectations, don't just consider XO to be better than others just because they have a nice setup.
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While I've yet to use XO, I'm hearing far too many stories eluding to ice queen attitudes from Russian models. They certainly have some stunning ladies through their roster but, hotter than the sun or not.... if they're as standoffish as it seems, that would be a total waste of time and resources for me. I'll take a 7 or an 8 with a warm disposition to a 10 with "Frigidaire" tattooed on her ass anyday.
And that is my point.
What good is a nice setup if ladies provide crappy service and XO bans clients at the drop of the hat? Perhaps they forget that we clients give them our hard earned cash (at least in my case, others may differ) NOT the other way round.
Except that most of the ladies are gorgeous and provide outstanding service. Two super GFE providers coming this way are Helen and Alina. If you’re looking for blond, I had an amazing GFE time with Ivanka, but I think she’s now touring with Privilege as Andrea...
And XO doesn’t ban clients at the drop of a hat. You seem to be basing that on one anecdotal example where the OP still hasn’t updated with either additional pertinent details or a resolution.
Maybe it’s just me, but when it comes to agency models, you seem to give off a Charlie Brown/Lucy with the football vibe. If you go into a situation expecting to be crapped on, you’re more likely to have that happen. If on the other hand, you do your research and go into a situation expecting success, you’re more likely to find success.
As for the poster who is still reticent about booking a date with an agency Russian, my attitude is “you only live once”. If you want to go outside the agency universe to find an established independent Baltic model, you can. But you’ll pay more. A $360 agency date will likely cost you $400-700 with a touring US based independent, $600-$1800 with an international based model. If you’re already screened with XO, you might as well go for it. But to each his own! ✌️
Nope, not basing on one incident but others as well that I'm aware of. Hence my issue with such actions.
Not only XO but have an issue with any other agency that - bans clients over trivial matters, pushes back on complaints or sub-par reviews etc. etc.
We the clients pay them not vice versa.
On this thread, you'd find that I've stated:
"Hence one needs to go to any agency with "Realistic" expectations, don't just consider XO to be better than others just because they have a nice setup."
and on another thread that is going on -
"However, do not let that stop you from experiencing those gals. Who knows, perhaps XO is looking at these posts and might talk to their gals"
So, no I'm not discouraging anyone from using Xo or any other agency. I'm just trying to
(1) Ensure people have 'realistic' expectations, nice setup doesn't mean quality service and hence don't consider Xo to be better on that criteria only
(2) Provide my own experience on the terrible attitude I've come across from Russian girls.
If you've had good luck with their models then good for you. You seem to be in a minority. A lot of people have voiced their opinion on the terrible attitude of these Russian girls and all of us can't be wrong.
It just takes a quick glance at all the providers getting 10s and 9s in their reviews to note that good experiences with XO girls are not a minority experience.
My thoughts are... I think if the provider has some sort of attraction towards the client, the session will probably be good. The models at XO are pretty fucking hot. Some probably have good game for putting on the mask. Others may not be able to put on the act.
I had booked with one of their models that would have been in around V day, but things went sideways, and they cancelled her. I read her reviews....honestly, they were pretty shitty. But she was so fucking hot, that I was willing to take the chance on getting the shit beat out of my ego.
In hindsight it's probably lucky for me she didn't make it. I'm no GQ man. And she was way up there in terms of being attractive. So, I probably would have gotten a double dose of ice cubes from her. Little Johnny may have never recovered from that...
Have people been reading about XO in General Discussions etc?
still think XO is better than other agencies?
Name me three agencies more RELIABLE than XO. Put up or shut-up.
TIA
You seem to be in XO's pocket, the way you keep arguing their case when multiple posts have been posted recently. Understand that all this time, this issue had been under wraps, people complaining in PMs etc. but it seems more people are coming out and discussing this.
Perhaps we can discuss when you get the intelligence to understand that my point is - "XO is no better than any other agency", since you've been claiming that XO is better than other agencies. But I guess I'll be waiting a long time for that.
My post has nothing to do with XO and everything with you becoming a productive contributor to the forum.
A guy asked for recommendations, and you have yet to provide anything productive to the discussion.
Again, name three RELIABLE agencies in the DMV that are better than XO, so all can benefit from your knowledge of agencies here, myself included.
Awaiting your personally experienced recommendations, and not a cut and paste from other people's posts.
One would be enough.
I’m still waiting for a link about XO on the General discussion board he mentioned.
Well its a moot point now. Simplesimon hasn't provided any useful information other than 'bitch and moan'. Even if he did, it would have no value whatsoever. He's probably digging through everybody's reviews now trying to find a reliable agency better than XO.
He obviously isn't privy to any agency worthwhile, or it would have been posed by name. Even if he does pull a name out of his ass now, I certainly wouldn't use it, nor should anybody else.
Another worthless poster with a huge stick up his ass.
One would be enough.
I’m still waiting for a link about XO on the General discussion board he mentioned.
Dude,
Your question was answered 14 days back. Go up the thread and you'll see the following
" So, yes, I agree why XO? I've had much much better service from BKS, Matchless, Flawless, etc."
You have been hankering for 3 and guess how many I'd provided 2 weeks back!!!!!
What I've been saying all along is XO is no better than any other agency. They "might not" be worse but in my experience their Russian gals are gals that I can certainly go without.
You keep talking about XO's setup and you'll see from my posts that I agree that their setup is the best, show me one where I have disputed that. However I don't get a hard-on by looking at how good the setup is, perhaps you do. I go for the experience and that is nothing to rave about for XO's gals.
The discussion that I meant, I think I mistakenly referred to general discussions, is the following:
https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/newbie-33/xocompanions-bans-you-for-negative-reviews-169049?page=1
Funny, let's look at another ban:
https://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/washington-dc-6/agency-provider-with-oral-herpes-305584?page=1
Try guessing who the agency is? Your favorite of course, Now don't ask how I know....
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Matchless uses mostly Russians, and you bitch about the Russians. Matchless isn't reliable, because they don't bring girls here much anymore. They have one girl here now, and that is a rarity of late. Furthermore, the current girl has shit reviews with a bunch of 7/7s, a 7/6 and a 5/3. Boy she must be great.
You actually ever use Matchless? Its laughable that you use them as an example as anybody who has actually used them knows.
BKS? LOL, Jeymmy has a bunch of shit reviews with a 5/5, 7/7s and she's 45 years old. Yeah, that's fucking hot.
Like I said, Johnny come lately, worthless. The thread was about RELIABLE agencies.
Such a simple simon. Your posts read like you were the one that got banned from XO and are stuck with sour grapes.
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Simple Simon busts on people for not responding fast enough, and here we hear crickets from him.. Also, oh look, Matchless has NOBODY in DC right now, big surprise. Wow, really RELIABLE agency.
Simplefolk, come out, come out, wherever you are and defend your shit recommendations.
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Thanks for the link from the General board, umm oops, I mean newbie board...
That cold sore thread was odd. A guy has a bad experience and he says the agency admitted they knew there was a problem. So I’m wondering, if you’re never going back to the agency, why not call them out.
But if you’re planning to go back to the agency, at least long enough to take advantage of the $50 discount they offered, then it tells me that overall the guy is satisfied enough with overall talent available and service provided to give them another chance.
Do you know because you’re the cold sore poster, or is he a buddy of yours?
He only said she informed the agency and then said -
“I contacted the agency after as I had left within 20 minutes because I didnt want a cbj and no kissing. They stated she never informed them and offered me a $50 discount on my next visit”
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It’s a matter of who to believe and who is lying.
Tis nobler in the eyes of man to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune......forgot the rest. Fill me in Liberal Arts majors.
It is a crap shoot with any time you make an appt and isnt that what makes this hobby so damn exciting. The excitement of someone new. Will they be on their game? Will I be able to perform? Will their be chemistry and feelings, or cold and mechanical. The Agency vs Indie question at the end of the day, is all about what happens between two consenting adults.
Give a link to that discussion. Forget what you see, go with XO. But don’t come back complaining as YMMV with any agency or Indy for that matter.
For those still wondering, XO is the agency that I had the cold sore issue with.
Now that the OP of cold sore thread has come out and mentioned XO by name, are you guys gonna question him too?
I'm sorry to see that some of you have been having difficulty accepting the flaws of XO. Just because one doesn't know something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. What it means is that your sphere of knowledge is limited.
We started with just ONE ban. Based on what I've heard privately from others, the banning process seems to be happening regularly. Now, after I mentioned that, within a couple of weeks, we have TWO more posts mentioning being banned from XO. If people still want to keep harping that XO is better then they have every right to be wrong
So, stating that I'm somehow connected with other posts/threads means you do not understand how TER name/alias posts work. So perhaps brush up on that. and Yes, if you have difficulty accepting that your firm theory of XO being better is now in shreds then you have to deal with that on your own. I gave my inputs based on what I know and the recent posts have validated this.
Since some of you have difficulty reading, I reiterate:
" From previous post
On this thread, you'd find that I've stated:
"Hence one needs to go to any agency with "Realistic" expectations, don't just consider XO to be better than others just because they have a nice setup."
and on another thread that is going on -
"However, do not let that stop you from experiencing those gals. Who knows, perhaps XO is looking at these posts and might talk to their gals"
So, no I'm not discouraging anyone from using Xo or any other agency. I'm just trying to
(1) Ensure people have 'realistic' expectations, nice setup doesn't mean quality service and hence don't consider Xo to be better on that criteria only
(2) Provide my own experience on the terrible attitude I've come across from Russian girls.
"
Feels as if AME somehow merged with XO based on the fact that these bans seem to have picked up in the past several months that coincide with AME closing down. Now when and if that hunch is proven true, then I'm going to buy a lottery ticket that day for sure
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I'm not questioning him, I'm questioning you. You and your shitty referrals.
See that you ignored the above post, newbie.
Try booking with Matchless, your recommendation. Oh, wait they don't have any girls in DC - again.
You do keep misrepresenting every time you're caught misrepresenting the truth, don't you?
You started off by shooting - "Well its a moot point now. Simplesimon hasn't provided any useful information other than 'bitch and moan'. "
When it was pointed out that I'd named some agencies earlier and you got caught, you tried to attack in a different manner - "Simple Simon busts on people for not responding fast enough,". Well time to show a post where I did that please. Comprehension/Reading suggestion is different than "fast enough" issue but I guess you wouldn't know that since you are a meaningful contributor, right? You can add Private L to that list as well. Never had an issue with Sloan either.
Then you stated - "BKS? LOL, Jeymmy has a bunch of shit reviews with a 5/5, 7/7s and she's 45 years old. Yeah, that's fucking hot."
Yosefina reviews from her first page.
Achachan 6 - Nice / 7 - Hot time
Dmv812 8 - Really Hot / 7 - Hot time
fabio81 7 - Attractive / 7 - Hot time
HungryBeefy 9 - Model material / 9 - Forgot it was a service
bobbomasonic 9 - Model material / 9 - Forgot it was a service
thatguy607 8 - Really Hot / 8 - Went the extra mile
Ikki8097 8 - Really Hot / 8 - Went the extra mile
jayesco 9 - Model material / 9 - Forgot it was a service
RUSerius 8 - Really Hot / 9 - Forgot it was a service
highjumpnavel 10 - One in a lifetime / 9 - Forgot it was a service
Jeymmy's reviews from her first page:
Fireman0441 8 - Really Hot / 9 - Forgot it was a service
Viajero1991 9 - Model material / 9 - Forgot it was a service
Ikki8097 7 - Attractive / 7 - Hot time
dfkLuver 9 - Model material / 9 - Forgot it was a service
kev2love 7 - Attractive / 7 - Hot time
Big_M 5 - Plain / 5 - Average
jayesco 10 - One in a lifetime / 8 - Went the extra mile
oaktree27804 7 - Attractive / 7 - Hot time
freetoplay136 8 - Really Hot / 8 - Went the extra mile
Gameova 7 - Attractive / 6 - Nice Time
Not sure your statements are validated with the above ratings.
Then you state - "Matchless uses mostly Russians, and you bitch about the Russians. Matchless isn't reliable, because they don't bring girls here much anymore."
So, if an agency does not bring girls to the area for sometime, they're not reliable? Wow!! They just had a couple of girls this past week.
Also does Matchless know that they use mostly Russian? This will come as a surprise to them as it did come to me. But you go on making these ridiculous claims that have no merit.
Apart from just providing the info that is there and misrepresenting even that, contrast with my post where I mentioned the inside info that I have about XO banning clients. At the time of my first post, there was only one poster who'd posted. After I commented, 2 more posts were posted within 2 weeks about XO and its bans thereby validating my initial post. What inside information have you been able to gather (needs cooperation with other members) and provide? Nothing. Zilch, Nada. And you have the nerve to attack people when you've been proven wrong.
I'd take Yosefina and Jeymmy over those kind of girls anyday. And avoid any agency that bans clients for - cold sores, cancellation within rules, negative review, of course I'm privy to more reasons but posting them would be counter-productive since you know so well.
Based on your comments, reason XO is best in DC area is because they have a nice set up and girls pics look good. If you continue to ignore multiple people who've raised the issue of their attitude, then that's your right, But don't be going around asking others to accept that false opinion. Go along texting "Arrived", see a girl (perhaps heavily photoshopped) and be subjected to an icy attitude, till you bring this to XO's attention if you ever get the courage to do so.
Go along misrepresent facts but I think I'll be spending my time elsewhere.
XO is indeed reliable. You can rely on them to ban you on the slightest pretext even when you are in the right. Very reliable
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It really seems like this thread between Tippy and you has devolved into winning an argument and proving the other absolutely wrong than it is acknowledging there are correct facts on both sides of the argument.
True, Matchless low volume in this market doesn’t mean they aren’t reliable.
True, XO uses photoshopped pics. But every agency/provider that uses professionally taken pics is using Photoshopped pics. Those photographers shoot RAW format, and the JPGS we view are all edited. Matchless would photoshop out excess weight, XO photoshops in appealing curves. The reason XO edits stand out more is they show faces in all their licss, while most agencies and many independents choose to crop out/blur/pose our faces.
Some have issues with how XO handles less than satisfied clients. That’s a fair complaint. You can say they’ve got a low scores in that aspect of customer service. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t overall reliable. What XO does well is offer an very reliable booking system, comprehensive info on the girl’s (multiple looks from photo shoots/selfies (still & video), and available extras). Their integrated website/messaging/email notification system is hands down the best available in this market. For new clients, verification is prompt.
Bottom line, XO is one of the successful agencies to operate in this market in the last ten years. The girls are consistently hotter (on average) than than that of other agencies, and there are HUNDREDS of DC based reviews on these girls that indicate our fellow hobbyists are more than satisfied with the encounters they paid for. Nationally, the number is of course even higher.
But focusing on the few bad experiences versus overall trends exponentially amps the sour grapes factor. Take the cold sore episode, for example. It sucks that that guy had the experience. We can all agree on that. But the girl said she notified the agency, the agency said she didn’t. Reviewer and you take that as proof the agency “knew”. Really??? 100% of that girl’s income was at risk that day. Less than 10% of the agency’s income was at risk. Rather than make a judgement, the reality is we’ll never know.
And as far as resolution goes, agency offered a $50 discount. Combined with TER discount, he was offered a $300 date for his choice of girls. What more could they have done? He could have asked for a $100 discount, BUT HE DIDN’T. Instead publicly trashed the agency, and he got the expected result.
Final comment on sour grapes. Subsequent to the cold sore episode, the provider continued the tour with rave reviews. And she’s even scheduled for a return tour to this area. Based on her ultra passionate performances as indicated in her reviews, I’m sure she’ll have no problem booking up quickly.
If you look at my posts 24 and 21 days back, you'll see that I agreed that XO had the best appt setup. Have always accepted that.
My concern has been the "flaky/fickle" nature of their Russian girls and there are multiple posters who agree with me. One never knows what mood they'll be in and that is a shame.
The other concern I have with XO is how they handle client feedback. Apart from
- the current thread where OP got banned after cancellation, you also had
- the OP with cold sore issue who also got banned and
- another guy who posted a negative review and got banned
I'm basing my opinion on 3 bans plus other bans that people have shared with me in private. The least I expect from an agency is to listen to the client and not ban. Jaime/AME would yell at clients after negative reviews (and I had issues with that as well) but I never heard of any other agency banning clients as XO had been doing. It had been going on for some time but now it seems people have decided to speak up which is good. Perhaps that has led XO to rescind the ban on one and am hoping that the ban would be lifted for others as well. Does no-one any good. I think more people should post when agencies (not only XO) ban them. That is a extreme step in my opinion, of course others can disagree.
Tippy has been arguing about stuff and when caught, started different lines of attack. First he mentioned that I didn't give names of agencies, then started some silly argument about Matchless (somehow their girls became Russians in Tippy's eyes) and how they don't bring girls on a regular basis. And then the nonsense about BKS girl's ratings. He has come up with alternate facts to support his theory but alternate facts shall never become facts.
Cultural differences exist, they are real. You ask an agency to book you an actual Russian, and then are upset when the young woman is authentically Russian. You’re not going to be able to reverse centuries of cultural imprinting on a multi-week whirlwind tour mostly limited to the confines of hotel rooms. Although change is possible. First tour “Ice Queen” Joanna has returned for a second tour, and it looks like she’s evolved into a Greek Friendly GFE freak in the sheets.
I honestly think the standard you’re holding these girls to is closer to some hybrid Americanized immigrant with a hot accent. That ideal exists, but your talking about models signed with agencies, or immigrants who are in all likelihood pursuing an MBA in Finance. In other words, if they wanted to escort on the side, you would be paying her $800-$1500 an hour for the date. What you get from XO is hot girls fresh off the boat.
I’ve posted a link to the XO policy on cancellation. Looks like Cayden falls into the short notice cancellation policy. Agency opens at 9AM daily, so any same day cancellation for an appointment 1PM or earlier is going to be treated as a short notice cancellation. To me, it makes perfect sense that he wouldn’t have access to the website until the two parties were able to clear up whether or not he was going to be charged the cancellation fee, and if yes, had the client settled up with the agency. Happily for Cayden, the cancellation fee was waived, and he’s back on their website.
In the case of the cold sore, the agency offered compensation, the client declined to counter offer, and then publicly trashed the agency for not making things right. What’s the agency supposed to do at that point? Allow access to a proprietary website to a guy who has stated he’ll never use the agency again? That would be a security breach, and given the legal liability of the “hobby”, would be extremely foolish. In reality, XO didn’t ban Cold Sore Guy, CSG effectively banned himself.
Final counter would be to your “inconsistent performance” critique of XO. My short reply, always always always Buyer beware.
The agency only lists specific acts that are available. Beyond that, we really rely on our TOFFT warriors, and then follow on guys who confirm initial reviews. It’s apparent to most of us which of their girls will be PSE, GFE, YMMV, or non-GFE. Now on the one hand, guys like our friend alias McCarthy don’t want to be disappointed, so they pay attention to the YMMV warnings, and avoids booking those girls. On the other hand, and these are the “examples” you rely on in your argument, we get complaints from guys who had landed on the negative side of a YMMV date, happening AFTER others had already posted YMMV issues in their reviews. And that’s the agency’s “fault” how?????
I think it boils down to how we approach it. My technique with a Russianndate is to understand there is a possibility of a YMMV below expectations. I check my impulse instinct to book on a whim, and I do my due diligence. And I’ve had great results with my XO dates. For the impulse guys flipping heads or tails, I still think XO is a good option because with their bevy of available talent, that coin flip is most likely to come up heads!
I don’t see the link for XO cancelation policy and couldn’t see it on there site.
Also they no longer have a TER agency profile linked in there ads and user name.
Thanks. Glad he worked it out with them. I could not see where he gave the time of his appointment. But ur correct, it’s based on business hours so he would had to scheduled 2 or 3pm to be exempt if fee.
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I have used XO numerous times, in fact it's my go-to agency. I had two not-so-great instances, and both times XO made it right with me when I spoke to them about it. They care about repeat business and reputation and run their agency with a focus on customer service; the same can not be said for a lot of other agencies.
So after the requested strip search you wrote about in the other thread about NS screening requirements I’m guessing you called XO? All things good for you know? Whoever it was at NS must have been hot to get all worked up and need to vent.
Was XO one of your references? If so, maybe XO and NS don’t get along.
I’m not screened with NS. Wouldn’t want to jeopardize my clearance. But I did get green lighted to JM based on the XO reference.
I also just got banned from a well known agency. I have a long and stellar track record, and have seen this particular agency over 10 times. I have never cancelled in the past. However, today I made an appointment (based on an incredible photo) and when I showed up the girl was unkept and did not look like her photos. Rather than waste the cash on someone I was not attracted to, I decided to walk. I immediately texted the Agency to explain,.....but they asked me to not contact them again. I was going to offer a partial payment for the cancellation, or to make an extra payment on the next visit,.....but since they blocked me, I cannot do that. What should I have done?
Maybe stayed in the room , and contact the agency before leaving. But no guarantees that wouldn't net the same outcome. I understand that standing in a room when you've decided not to follow through lends a hostile air to the situation. Strange that they took that stance...especially if you were a frequent and fairly loyal client. Especially if you feel the model was misrepresented, or unkempt.
is 20/20.
But there is no rule book that says that client needs to stay in room, text agency, send pics of unkept girl etc. etc. These suggestions are only after the fact.
I've been saying this again and again, XO needs to fix this shit.
Motto of XO seems to be -
We will take your cash,
You will keep quiet,
No matter how dissatisfied you are with service,
My girl does no wrong.
I think till things go well, XO is the best agency for some. It is only when things go south that one gets banned instantly. That is something that I cannot fathom.
And the list keeps growing...
Did you read his post, or just the subject line?
Dude, they are one of the top revenue/top rated agencies in this region, and many other metro areas as well. Aside from several fixable complaints on the discussion boards, some of which aren’t even directed at XO.
You say they make no accomadtions, yet one of the complaints included an acknowledgment they offered him a comp, and the short notice canceller got his situation sorted out.
One might conclude you write under an alias because you work for a competing agency...
Sorry I ask but this thread has been primarily about XO. Others who have had similar experiences went through with the appointment and voiced there complaints later and many times the agency apologized and offered a discount on the next visit.
Not sure how many may have written an honest review of it since they were offered a discount later.
Describe unkept? Photos over done? Old, or you are 100% sure they were not hers?
Does she have good reviews otherwise? I’m sure everyone would like to know what agency and who she was, but I’m pretty sure you won’t come forward with either.
And at what point after leaving did you contact them? Your suggesting an offer of a cancelation fee or some compensation regardless of who was the cause for it should have been done immediately after walking out the door. When you say blocked, you mean by phone? Try offering them compensation by email if you truly like the agency and hope to see others from them.
I guess this is why some go through with it and voice there complaints later. They at least stay in favor with the agency and the agency may not keep her.
I resist mentioning the agency because it is otherwise a top notch. It was not XO.
The provider I was seeing was new.....no reviews. But I have always had good luck with the agency in the past so I went for it. The girl was jittery and nervous (not a deal breaker), her breasts looked full in the photos (and droopy in person), her description has her 20 lbs lighter that she really was. In the photo she looked one ethnicity, and in person she looked another. There were other differences which I will not disclose as they would be identifying. There was definitely a bad vibe. I am not 100% it was even the same girl since the difference between photo and real life was so stark.
I texted the agency within 5 minutes of leaving. The only response I received was "Do not contact me again." I followed up, hoping to open a dialogue, but the agency did not respond. I am not in the habit of begging someone to take my cash, so I let it drop.
I'll chalk it up to a bad day, but I was just curious what others do. For the record, I find that XO is much more accommodating that most agencies.
I had to cancel and I gave them two days in advance and still got banned. They are stupid and I will never use them again!
Most hobbyists believe XO is a great agency. Fortunately there are a great number of alternatives out there for you.
I just had to cancel ( 4 days notice). No ban for me.
Legit reason, but they never gave me any resistance or grief about it at all. And as I said, I haven't been banned.