So I don't expect any providers to post. I have VIP so I can receive PM's. Just curious if any ladies offer the most feared term in this business, BBFS. I can do Va or Dc. I know many will wave their finger. It's just what I'm looking for.
Thanks.
Very unfortunate but we all at least know who to avoid. Just nasty!
I would probably spend a lot more time and money on this hobby if I didn't have to put a stupid condom on. But do you know what else sucks? AIDS. And you're asking for bare sex in the place with the highest std rate in the entire country. And the type of person who is unstable enough to take it raw for a little bit more money is also more likely to have drug abuse and other problems that increase their likelihood of problems.
Use some damn sense. If condoms ruin it that much for you save some money and just jerk off. http://dcist.com/2015/03/report_dc_has_one_of_the_highest_st.phpIt is advertised but, reviews are mixed; may be a B&S. I am sure that she is not the only one offering BBFS
I agreed to...........1 hour and I asked for the BBFS option for an additional $100. I have had nothing but protected sex for the past few years, and I hate the coat, so I thought, take the risk, this would be quite enjoyable fucking without the hat with a lovely girl such as......., and she is gorgeousSo I chose to respond to this message for only one reason. Your claim that I have put the providers I've seen in the past reputations in Jeopardy. If you look closer, 90% of the providers I've seen are retired, and the rest? Well that would take a lot of assuming to think that I got BBFS from them since none of my reviews hints or suggest I received bbfs from them. Not to mention that if I'm curious about who does, then wouldn't that suggest that they don't? I have never received bbfs from anyone I've reviewed here or anywhere else for that matter.
I do not have a S/O as I do not think its ok to have a S/O and hobby at the same time. Cheating is wrong whether its covered or not in my eyes. Every provider has had at some clients that have a S/O. Well that is just my opinion and I respect yours and I know fully well what I am seeking and the risks involved with it. Few people shortly die from HIV/AIDS related diseases that are diagnosed with it. A lot of people think it's a death sentence but it's far from true. You have a better chance being killed from someone texting and driving. I get tested regularly to keep an eye on it. This is my only response and I wish you and everyone else luck.You my friend just blacklisted yourself from most if not all top rated providers. Yes I know bbfs is offered by some providers but asking for it tho? and keep telling yourself its not a death sentence when you contract Hiv/aids, unless you like popping medicinal cocktails 24/7. Gluck to you and I feel sorry for the poor girl youre bouta raw dog.
because in MY book...you are of my DNS list. PERIOD.
but clearly some idiots lack the ability.
There just isn't any fixing stupid.
You're playing with hookers, come on have some respect for yourself or your significant other & use female condom, it's just like being bareback... There are too many diseases & life's to fab to get a std!!! Just my .02...
Totally agree with providers. BBFS is crazy. For both sides. But what is the difference for the ladies who do BBBJCIM (sp or SW) or rim action? Thanks.
it's not spoken about but is actually providedMore often than most care to admit, including pornstars, local and travel ladies in my 20 plus yrs in hobby.
Sorry. This was intended as new thread. Are they still around.?
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It is more available than you think, but just not advertised much.-- Modified on 6/24/2017 4:28:18 AM
If that is what you are looking for, of course. If it's not your thing there is always someone else that is into it.
Not to be mean or anything but these ladies are doing this because of the $$s.. if you put enough of it on the table they will do BBFS and more. The ones who say ohhh yak, never.. put you on DNS are worse offenders.
I have been into this for several years and seen ladies that are in 300/hr all the way to 800/hr .. not on the first visit but if you see them multiple times, they will offer a whole lot more to keep the $$s coming. I have been offered anal from many who say never they offer it.. ATM .. and yes BBFS .. rates been in a few $$s all the way up to 1000 .. the one that asked for 1000 I had her blow me and swallow and saved myself 1000
I am sure you will find what you are looking for.. enjoy
and I'm sure it works for someone out there, but considering I can count on ONE hand the number of people I've had unprotected sex with and I've made long-term boyfriends use protection well into the committed stages...it's a no for me dawg.
From the conversations I hear around me, you're more likely to find that with the average non sex-worker who has no commitment to her own health and its importance for her livelihood. The idea that you're willing to bargain the cost of that service with me gives me the extreme red flag that you probably do that more often than you're willing to admit to me and you're an even higher risk than the average joe that engages in sexually risky behavior. But as mentioned, it's available. People in this area are advertising it, it's in their reviews. You can account for human inability to accurately assess risk. xo
This thread made my day a bit more interesting.
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that the phrase "raw dog" is only used once in this thread, which is nowhere near enough. That is all.
And in Boston I have received more "BBFS-friendly?" texts in the past year than I've seen in my entirety in the business.
The fact is a lot of women are doing it - the best explanation I've read for it is millennial / sugar baby effect in the biz. A lot of impressionable young women and new entries who think its normative, a lot of older women who have gone years without contracting HIV so their attitude is to wing it and a lot of clients taking bad cues from each other on various message boards that are less regulated than TER. I'd rather clients be up front about their desire/requests to have unprotected sex so I can avoid rather than to attempt to convince or manipulate me in the heat of the moment though- so carry on.
don't recall ever seeing over 2K reads
Of course, if it were not for important prudential considerations about disease, this would be every man's preference, let's not fool ourselves, the feeling is much better, and inevitably more intimate feeling.
There is a reason why this post has so many reads. Obviously, this is something people are looking for. It obviously is provided. People just don't want to talk about it or admit to it. There is something everyone has a want for. "If she won't, the next girl will...and enjoy it."
Not at all certain that the high view count is due to an interest in BBFS any more than an interest in seeing how stupid the original poster might be (though the post was stated fairly well so probably not some kid that's clueless) or the interest in seeing how the overall debate goes.
I wouldn't do BBFS, but I have to chuckle ... BBBJ is risky, yet a point-getter in ter reviews. Rimming is risky. Would this guy be getting bashed if he had posted an iso bbj or rimming?
Ok, yeah some people buy mags for the articles and information...not the pictures.
who actually buys magazines????
HIV and HepC are more efficiently transmitted with BBFS with vaginal and anal sex. Those two are the infections that NOBODY would want to deal with.
I viewed the thread to see if it had anything to do with a bust.
I did the same thing. Thinking this may be the guy that responded to a BP sting ad that was made just for him and they caught him or someone just like him. LOL.
In Germany it's legal to sell sex, but not rawdog (how do they enforce that???).
In most of the USA it's equally illegal to bareback or cover.
Figure of speech, but if you asked YOU may still read for the articles.
This may have been said before, but what if a group of providers developed a business model where BBFS can be a real thing. Both men and women would be tested on a scheduled basis and very frequently (say monthly). Test results would have to be shared before any activity occurred. Rates could be higher than CFS since this is a more premium service. I'm sure I'll get shit for saying this but it was just an idea.
Many providers offer it, but only to long-term, trusted clients and sometimes only with exchange of STD test results. A universal condition is that neither of you admit that you did it that way.
Openly saying that you want it would raise suspicions that anyone your review is providing it. I think that is pretty much a guarantee that they won't see you even if they might consider it under (very) different circumstances with different people.I read an article, based on CDC results if I recall correctly, that said something like the risk of HIV transmission was about ten times higher for vaginal rather than oral, and one hundred times higher for anal versus oral. Obviously, pregnancy risk is zero with oral.
Other microbes have different relative risks; I understand that gonorrhea is relatively easily transmitted by BBBJCIM. I am not an epidemiologist, so I don't know much more about others. Still, anything BB has its risks.I think anyone would prefer bare back if there was no consequence. Pregnancy is enough reason to wrap it up.
I still want to get my dicky wet, so there will be times I will probaly take chances with some women some where. With the influx of gay and bi lifestyle along with unsafe high risk hetero sex, there still isn't going to be free health care for people when they get sick. They act like their "choice" does not effect others . Pure arrogance from the GLBT community, all they do is deny reality.Regardless of whether you preform BBFS or not, GET TESTED! The only time I was infected was years ago when I contracted gonorrhea, and received treatment. But I was using condoms always. How did I get infected? Who knows?
Any exchange of fluid can transmit a STD. DATY, P2P and any other close contact can result in an STD. BBFS only increases the possibility of transmission-though substantially. It's easy to get tested. Fairfax County has free STD testing at several sites (that may change soon). The Walker Clinic is downtown. I read on another board that a man had waited eleven years between tests. What insanity! Protect yourself, but more importantly protect your partner. GET TESTED!!!if you need your boyfriend to wear a condom then there must be a reason
I'm non-monogamous. Boyfriend doesn't mean I'm not still having sex with other people.
Have anything else shady to say?xo
Eventually there will be an app/service that verifies Current STD tests for potential partners.
they discuss a thing in Germany where they do gangbang parties and do an instant HIV test on the spot... I guess herpes is an acceptable risk and the rest is treatable (or was, google super gonorrhea). also have all BBFS FKK clubs according to that board, at least until the new law mandating coverage.
There used to be a woman living on route 1 about three years ago near Fort Belvoir. She permitted BBFS , but with only one client who had to show a recent STD test, and she showed him hers. Seemed reasonable.
Spot on point
Other microbes have different relative risks; I understand that gonorrhea is relatively easily transmitted by BBBJCIM. I am not an epidemiologist, so I don't know much more about others.
Still, anything BB has its risks.
are the best for the feeling and for the bigger size guys
keep them with me at all times
say no to BBFS
Obviously no condom feels better, emotionally and physically but dude.
If I offered BBFS my pussy would smell like an open air Chinese fish market. My pH would be so fucked up it is not even funny. There are a number of reasons for why BBFS shouldn't be a thing in a pros life- AIDS/Herpes is #1, pregnancy is preventable so non-starter (but why would a married dude even *chance* getting some pro pregnant- I used to work with a girl who occasionally ventured about trapping a rich dude via pregnancy while providing, like legit this was a plan she thought was totally reasonable) #2 just general hygiene. A bunch of dudes busting nuts in one pussy is a recipe for constant STIs - Bacterial Vaginosis, yeast infections, malodors from semen just rotting in there. Its a great fantasy and everyone wants it but no. For your health. For her health. For the collective health of everyone sharing in this arena. For your tender nostrils. For the love of god. Lmfaoooooo These conversations tickle me. I would say MOST providers have fucked a client without a condom at least once, be it caught up, fucked up, "in love" or exclusive. But these incidents should be one offs - not professional practices. It just isn't clean or healthy. Too many people walking around with death wishes and no qualms about sharing their misfortune. No thanks! Absolutely no interest professional BBFS, but I will watch a 50 dude creampie gangbang with a straight face. I feel filthy after. Just saying. LOL-- Modified on 8/9/2017 11:40:23 PM
every dude would like BBFS... For Himself ONLY!!!
Except for atypical Cuck and bi types, sloppy seconds, not to say tenths, is vey few men's fantasy
And DATY after another guy had BBFSCIP? yeeeeesh
BBFS/CIP
Hurry, she is in Baltimore for one more day. $325/hour. Be sure to leave something for the next guy, literally.In case there is any miscommunication, that is not my review. I saw the ad on the MD, was considering and doing some research.
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/detail/leyla-cruz-review-by-hornblower1-2079314
Is this a trend now?...Poor girl Let him bb and still only gave her a 9.... lol
Most BBFS hunters are low self-esteemed cheap skates that are assholes by birth.
She puts it right in her add, +$100 for BBFS
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/leddi-4104178156-281295
http://leddi.escorts.biz/rates/
And she still have shitty reviews.. these slobs wont even give her a 10 and theyre raw dogging her.. smh
Gia Latina has some review that note BBFS and BBAnal
if you do end up with HIV or an STD don't be surprised, you brought it on to your self.
Ive worked at a senior home during my high school years and a couple of the elderly were HIV positive, they were always in pain, they toke lots of medications to ease the pain. EVERYBODY treated them like a disease, the staff wore gloves to feed them like animals. Anyways, don't think just because nowadays we have pills to slow the virus that you won't be in pain, even a small flu will have you laying in bed for weeks. I've seen it. and don't say that working girls "are clean because they go check them selfs in the clinic often" that could be true but at same time we are at a higher risk of multiple partners. don't think that you are special, a girl who is OPEN to doing bare back full service with you, is doing it with everybody that is paying her extra. bad, bad idea! except if your suicidal and don't care then thats your choice :]Providers see LOTS of guys. If she was low volume, say 8 guys a week. If she barebacked half of them, that's 4, or 200 a year. If the guys saw a different provider a week, say 50 a year, and raw dogged 10%, say 5 a year, that's a pool of a thousand in a high risk population (hookers and johns) at one remove. The promiscuity of prostitutes and men who hump them is vastly higher than the civilian world.
That said, HIV has a pretty low transmission rate for vaginal raw, and BBBJ even lower. Pregnancy, multi drug resistant Gonorrhea, type 2 Herpes? Hell yeh you'll get'm soon enough. We're all already giant HPV petri dishes awaiting out cervical and throat cancers.the lady doth protest too much
She is freely admitting she fucks a lot of guys and would prefer not to die from it.
I am sure most hookers also know from experience that SO's lie all the time about being monogamous and that just because her SO "claims" not to be having sex with anyone else that the chances are very good that he could be lying to her.
That said, I still engage in BBFS with GF's and that includes "hooker GF's" but I can certainly understand why a provider would want to keep using protection until she was good and ready to stop doing so.
We had one poster who listed some then attempted to recant by the fig leaf of a oh oops that was meant to start a new thread... but anyone dare to promulgate?
but it is their choice. they can decide how to live their life. since an orgasm (and a human life, for that matter) has no specific value, the individual needs to make up their own mind about what is acceptable risk
I wonder, are they charging more money, or just getting carried away. It would seem hard to not get carried away by the horniness if you're having sex constantly... if you didn't get frigid and callous, which would cause the dreaded TER kill shot of being Business Like and lose customers.
You reference. I was alerted to your claim by exigencies who is utr and on ladies board. Dude you are a flake.
wow, closing in on 10K views... is that a record for the most popular subject ever on here?
infected. Why on earth would anybody choose to lower themselves into that environment??? Some Peeps obviously need to Get A Clue, or Get Out Now!!!
I got accidental BBFS about 25 years ago. The condom broke, as she and I found out after the fact. Much to our mutual distress. We did not want that to happen. She and I were clean, it wound up being no problem. We're both disease free until this day.
But here's the deal: I had no idea I was "gloveless" until after the fact. Neither did she. Going BBFS is simply not as sexy as it sounds. For me and her, it was panic and terror. Put a little gel lube on your glans penis, then wrap that rascal. Truly, that goes a long way. You will probably never know the difference, and whatever difference there is simply is not worth the cost.watch out, someone hit a gusher here!
wow, closing in on 10K views... is that a record for the most popular subject ever on here?
wonder if that will happen, seems there's a trend
I do recall a link to an indy provider with one of those "goldpass" type sites that had bb listed as an additional benjamin in her services section. Pretty sure it was from the old bp. BUT... before I get any pms asking for the site or a name, I have neither. I moved on and chose not to partake because paying extra to guarantee an STI is not something I was willing to ever go through with.
Sometimes you see ads that offer PSE, and I am not always sure what PSE is. It's sorta like GFE-it's in the eye of the provider. But what about this ad that I just found:
VIP PSE: BBJ DFK DATY Multi-Pops(no limit) UnCvrd Everthing! Is she offering BBFS? I am NOT interested, but I would like your opinion.
I got the same newsletter
Nor am I interested!!!!
Dude, you mean Hep B, not Hep C. Hep B is sexually transmitted. Hep C, probably not (unless you exchange blood).
First PSE usually means Greek, not BBFS. But your example ad, yes offering uncovered BBFS.
Yeah, i always feel like folks who think condoms "ruin" sex just aren't doing it right!
I once worked out how much BBFS would cost:
PEPFull STI testing
Client full STI Test
At least 3 months off work to ensure no transmission. If anyone wants to cover that high 5 figure sum feel free. LOL.
Never seen so many views is right. Wow
lol why are we still talking about this?
phrased a little coyly and subtly , but the dots can be connected easily enough
so we have passed the 'Off Menu for Regulars' stage and inclusion in reviews stage to the code language in ads stage
next step is direct open advertisement like Greek upgrade or BBBJ
Can you be more specific like what implies B.B. or post a link to this so called B.B. ad? You might be one of those who thinks PSE implies B.B., which it does not.
well, it is subtly worded for a reason
No the wording is not PSE, nor open minded. Other euphemisms and popular synonyms are used.
Be skeptical of the so called if you wish, whatever, but its pretty clear
Clear to you, cloudy for everyone else. Don’t understand why you can’t be specific with the wording or better yet a link to this ad, but ok leave it a mystery I’m thinking it’s more entertaining for you.
Just trying to honor the spirit of the Lady's wishes implicit in her own lack of explicit specificity.
If she wanted to be totally explicit she would have, but she chose to be subtle and euphemistic while still advertising.
Why do people seek to be understood, even broadcast advertise, yet also to conceal? I dunno -here's a Steven Pinker talk about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eay1-m7RpoU. Hell why is it all "donations" and "providers" and "DATY" and "full service" around here rather than "paid the hooker money to eat her pussy and fuck her"? I dunno.
If she wants to be a little mysterious and hint and to advertise with a wink, I'll not shout and point.
Your post and point is completely worthless and more self satisfying. But good this thread has over 24,000 views and should grow even with posts like yours.
Yes I’m sorry. It became worthless drivel long ago. But I can’t help adding to the read count LoL now almost 26,000.
So forgive me of not, just don’t check it when it shows on top again with a new worthless addition like this.
Yes it has. Now excuse me while I continue my hissy fit LoL 
I am guessing its because young providers post date the whole AIDS scare great condom push, and since HIV is now basically treatable, Plan B is available over the counter, and a host of other long duration hormonal birth control is so easily available, and basically everyone has finally gotten the clue that AIDS is 99% a Gay and Ghetto problem... the reasons to not do what feels so much better and more natural has gone down. I suspect it comes from younger women going Raw in civi life more often as well. I think everyone has gotten more adventurous... watching the goofy CHiPs movie and they talked about eating ass being standard now... that was weird a couple decades ago and hello, Hepatitis? But most middle class are pretty clean and sexually adventurous these days, and Raw Dog is part of that.
1,000,000 likes? You counted all posts here for there likes and it adds up to 1M? Wow.
I actually thought about this type of service when I first started out. I had been in a monogamous relationship for 22 years and condoms Suck! But....I put thought in to it, and if a woman would allow you to do this....then why wouldn't she allow the next one? Is it really worth risking your life...or at the least quality of? I thought better of it, and never pursued it. I still hate condoms, but I've gotten used to them enough they don't hinder my performance. Using them is the equivalent of a blow up doll. Lol. You're not in the woman....youre in a piece of latex. It definitely kills the intimacy of the moment. But I suspect most guys aren't there for intimacy. I also wonder if the ladies look at them as another piece of armor to avoid intimacy? That's probably over thinking it there... as the condom is a tool to prevent disease, and I'm sure thats probably as far as any lady in the trade views it. Bottom line....dont do it! If that's what you need....find a civi lady and start a relationship. I'll take the condom over the arguments anyday!
There are many who weigh the risk with there own mortality. I might lean to this bad risk behavior because I will likely did before the worst case exposes itself.
It's a huge risk factor. If you're skinny dipping in it, probably a lot of guys are. And even if you didn't catch the big one, there's still herpes, hep C, ya know...the shit that doesn't kill you...but makes you a social pariah....