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bruceybruce 855 reads
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Posted By: EdrienneCole
.. then please also bear in mind that there has been a rash of fake reviews going up that a lot of us are fighting and trying to get removed.  I recently spent about 3 days trying to get one off my profile and while  fake reviews are nothing new, there seems to be a definite increase of them in the last little bit.

When TER stops offering VIP in exchange for reviews, or gents decide to have some integrity and get off their wallets to pay for VIP or until the fake reviewer's IP gets permanently banned when it's proven he's created a fake review - THEN we might be able to discuss whether increased review volume means anything in particular.  Until then, it means very little....
Since White Listings are used to conduct client verification, providers are also contributors to the review issue. I've had providers tell me that they would only give me a White Listing if I gave them a stellar review. Those reviews are also fake IMHO.

baldwin2be1123 reads

I was wondering if anyone else had noticed the large number of reviews being posted.

I submitted my review of Jordan Baker (VERY HOT) and it was posted within one day, and then in the next day, it is now on the third page of posted reviews.

That seemed to indicate a lot of reviews that were being posted.

Has anyone else noticed this? Maybe the market is getting stronger.

Just a thought.

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conscientious_hobbyist1096 reads

could be that particular provider is in high demand. Happens a lot with agencies who fly in the girls from outside. If the girl is really good, lot of hobbyists want to see her, since these girls only visit for 4-5 days. She will get a lot of reviews in short period as a result.

As far as strength of market is concerned, the market has always been strong in the DC area - even in midst of the worst recession.

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bnk1999428 reads

The record number of times a woman can have sex with a multiple men in 24 hours period is 919 times. It occurred at a filmed gangbang in Texas.

So it's not really shocking that a provider can have alot of reviews in a short period of time to me.

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videoHobbyist841 reads

There is a whole set of new guys who started posting reviews since 2008. Glad they they have been able to write the reviews so the veterans to can see the new talent out there.

The market it picking back up and there seems to be higher quality choices than there were a few years ago.

I am noticing the newbie providers are willing to try new things they have never done before (being put in restraints, picture taking, video of sessions, bbbj).

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Foggarty427 reads

I think the folks at TER have really upped their game on getting the reviews up faster...

Cudos to them for a job well done! For a while there it was like pulling teeth! I had gone over tyo another review site for a bit but now things are much better here!

Fog

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jordanbaker893 reads

baldwin2be is a fantastic lover, and his post was most accurate! He demands excellence and I'm happy to oblige.

Related Link: http://jordanbaker.rare-playmate.com

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baldwin2be918 reads

Thank You for the compliment and the great time together!

I was commenting on the number of reviews being posted, but if it gets me Jordan Baker's attention, I am happy with that thought as well.

Until our next adventure!

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Captain Midnight583 reads

I have noticed that there are more reviews appearing lately, too.  I'm not sure what is causing it, although as someone who has been in an out around here since 2005, I've seen a lot of new names popping up lately.  Good job, guys!

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EdrienneCole879 reads

.. then please also bear in mind that there has been a rash of fake reviews going up that a lot of us are fighting and trying to get removed.  I recently spent about 3 days trying to get one off my profile and while  fake reviews are nothing new, there seems to be a definite increase of them in the last little bit.

When TER stops offering VIP in exchange for reviews, or gents decide to have some integrity and get off their wallets to pay for VIP or until the fake reviewer's IP gets permanently banned when it's proven he's created a fake review - THEN we might be able to discuss whether increased review volume means anything in particular.  Until then, it means very little....

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Dumbjock928 reads

Most experienced hobbyists know to take reviews in with a huge grain of salt.  One of my ATFs recently mentioned a fake review. I asked how did she know. She gave multiple reasons, but the one I found most humorous was that the reviewer said that she went into the bathroom and returned nude. She says that her lingerie costs too much for her not to make sure every client sees it. LOL.

Posted By: EdrienneCole
.. then please also bear in mind that there has been a rash of fake reviews going up that a lot of us are fighting and trying to get removed.  I recently spent about 3 days trying to get one off my profile and while  fake reviews are nothing new, there seems to be a definite increase of them in the last little bit.

When TER stops offering VIP in exchange for reviews, or gents decide to have some integrity and get off their wallets to pay for VIP or until the fake reviewer's IP gets permanently banned when it's proven he's created a fake review - THEN we might be able to discuss whether increased review volume means anything in particular.  Until then, it means very little....

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bruceybruce856 reads

Posted By: EdrienneCole
.. then please also bear in mind that there has been a rash of fake reviews going up that a lot of us are fighting and trying to get removed.  I recently spent about 3 days trying to get one off my profile and while  fake reviews are nothing new, there seems to be a definite increase of them in the last little bit.

When TER stops offering VIP in exchange for reviews, or gents decide to have some integrity and get off their wallets to pay for VIP or until the fake reviewer's IP gets permanently banned when it's proven he's created a fake review - THEN we might be able to discuss whether increased review volume means anything in particular.  Until then, it means very little....
Since White Listings are used to conduct client verification, providers are also contributors to the review issue. I've had providers tell me that they would only give me a White Listing if I gave them a stellar review. Those reviews are also fake IMHO.

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OneMomentPlease1112 reads

Hey bruceybruce!  That's a load of horseshit.  The whitelistings are here to keep us all safe!  There might be the RARE occasion a provider might try to finagle a nicer review by dangling a white listing under a guys nose.  But to say all reviews posted by the guys (who are whitelisted by the ladies) are fake, is rediculous.  Most of the ladies and gents I know would not put up with that type of behavior for a second.  In one small statement, you have criticized a large percentage of the TER community.  If this is truly how you feel, then IMHO, you do not belong here at all.  I take offense to your post.  I disagree with your assessment.

If you have had providers tell you "that they would only give me a White Listing if I gave them a stellar review." then YOU should have mentioned it in YOUR reviews immediately!!!  So give me a break with your crap already.  Who are you seeing??  They certainly don't sound like reputable ladies to me.  

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bruceybruce863 reads

No, that's not what my post was intended to argue. Ms. Cole stated that hobbyists are submitting fake reviews in order to get VIP status.  I stated that providers also guilty of "review fraud" and their integrity should be highlighted as well.  My example was an isolated incident (I hope) where a provider told me straight up that she'd give me a White Listing if I gave her a great review.  For that particular lady, her reviews are unlikely to be representative of her appearance and performance.  I can also think of a few instances where ladies say that reviews are only helpful if they are 8 and above on their websites.  See the link below for an example.  

The main point of my post is that White Listings encourage reviewers to be more lenient in their reviews since ladies can use TER for client verification.  I never said that reviews were fake in general - they are just more favorable than they would be if White Listings didn't exist and the review process was completely independent of the reference/verification process.  A 9/10 review that would be an 8/8 review if you put a gun to the reviewer's head is not fake.  It's inflated.

White Listings are flawed for 2 reasons.  1) The lady is more likely to give you a favorable reference if you give her a favorable review.  That's human nature.  2) Providers don't want to see hobbyists who have a reputation as a tough grader.  This issue has come up here and there on the various TER board. If you don't believe me, start handing out 5's and 6's in your reviews.  Over time I guarantee you'll find it harder to book appointments.

As a hobbyist I'd rather live in a world in which reviews exist.  That doesn't mean that the system is not flawed.  My issue is that since reviewers are encouraged to give nothing less than an 8 it compromises the integrity of the number system.  Too many average looking providers with average performance and average menus routinely get 8's and 9's.  If there was a true 10 point system out there, they would actually be getting 4's, 5's and 6's.  Rating inflation devalues a provider who is legitimately a 9 or 10 because the difference in quality is not apparent.  The current situation has led me to have numerous disappointing sessions because the lady was either not attractive enough or had too limited a menu that was not in line with my conception of a toptier provider.

Related Link: Scroll down to #9

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EdrienneCole544 reads

I've never understood the seemingly common stance that White Listing is something that a lady makes a client "earn" by a certain number of repeat visits, certain review ratings or some other way.  To me, a WL is no different than a reference I'd give to a lady who inquires.  It simply means "Yes, I saw him and yes, I'd see him again!".  Putting any more relevance or importance on it than that begets the circumstance you mention.

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bruceybruce415 reads

Posted By: EdrienneCole
I've never understood the seemingly common stance that White Listing is something that a lady makes a client "earn" by a certain number of repeat visits, certain review ratings or some other way.  To me, a WL is no different than a reference I'd give to a lady who inquires.  It simply means "Yes, I saw him and yes, I'd see him again!".  Putting any more relevance or importance on it than that begets the circumstance you mention.

We'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose.  I'm just saying that a client who wants a White Listing is likely to be more lenient in his or her reviews....regardless of whether the lady makes him or her "earn" it.  I think that it occurs because of human nature.

As an example, I'm not going be a douchebag by asking a lady I've given a 7 or below to for a reference of any sort because she probably won't be too happy with me and the reference may actually be harmful to my hobbiyst rep.

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Posted By: EdrienneCole

When TER stops offering VIP in exchange for reviews, or gents decide to have some integrity and get off their wallets to pay for VIP or until the fake reviewer's IP gets permanently banned when it's proven he's created a fake review - THEN we might be able to discuss whether increased review volume means anything in particular.  Until then, it means very little....

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