...or what combination of things?...
I think price indicates in some combination:services provided, accommodations, length of stay, client volume, customer service skills, and appearance to a degree. But I'd love to be enlightened and hear other opinions. Hobbyist get the fundamental analysis from this website to valuate and possibly find the arbitrage in price....but that's usually new girls that overvalue experience as opposed to skills and don't charge enough. In this game prices do not consistently reflect all available info IMO and a good girl gone bad will not be seen in her prices and you must valuate before investing in a girl. I consider the girls in the light of classic Jay-Z line. "I'm not a businessman…I'm a business, man!
This is as close to free market pricing as exists. Each lady is a unique combination of age/looks/image projected/reviews/etc. In any given market guys have different preferences (the "ideal" looks in DC are not what guys lust after in Tokyo or San Antonio).
The other aspect of price is the lady's business plan--income needed, hours available, preference for type of client, etc.
Much of that is impossible to tell from reviews at all, though there may be some clues.
Think you got it right. What lady's plan is on such things as volume, return clients, and "quality" drive it.
I think it kind of breaks down in categories, not absolute, but ranges listed below. This is Washington, DC, not B'more or other places.
SW prices are going to be between $60 and $120
BP prices are going to be a bit higher with maybe more services, like different positions, but something like greek is a rarity and prices range from $20 to a $100 for extra service. In general time range for prices is $80 SS, 120 HH, and $200-260 FH.
AMP/FCCC pretty much $180-$260 for an hour. Scripted service
Independents - seems like $260 and as high as $800 plus, but between $260-$500 an hour. Services are all over the board. Late 20 year olds and younger 30 year olds who provide a lot of services seem to command the higher prices, or those who offer a certain fetish.
Courtesans - $400-$1000 Model material, once in a lifetimes. Services are not necessarily related to prices
Be careful with BP. Many providers on BP are much worse than they were a few years ago. A few are advertising cream pies and bbfs on a regular basis. You are rolling the dice seeing unreviewed BP providers.
SW prices are going to be between $60 and $120
BP prices are going to be a bit higher with maybe more services, like different positions, but something like greek is a rarity and prices range from $20 to a $100 for extra service. In general time range for prices is $80 SS, 120 HH, and $200-260 FH.
AMP/FCCC pretty much $180-$260 for an hour. Scripted service
Independents - seems like $260 and as high as $800 plus, but between $260-$500 an hour. Services are all over the board. Late 20 year olds and younger 30 year olds who provide a lot of services seem to command the higher prices, or those who offer a certain fetish.
Courtesans - $400-$1000 Model material, once in a lifetimes. Services are not necessarily related to prices.
Yeah, wouldn't touch an unknown BP girl with a ten foot pole.
Services also include, in general, not getting stood up as often, prompt calls, 'safe' environment, etc.
People forget that services just isn't what is on the menu, its external qualities like a nice hotel and not the back of your car. Freshly showered provider, who smells nice and looks amazing. A girl with manners and can carry on a conversation, and not a hood rat, etc.
Higher end escorts are usually college educated, if not an advanced degree. Well traveled, and carry on conversation that stimulates whats between the ears, not just whats between the legs
decisions to make in this dang hobby. I ask a few guys what to charge and I'll get a different answer from each. Part of what I take into consideration, in addition to their opinions, is what other providers who are similar to me in my area charge; part of it is taking into account the costs associated with my services, but the biggest part of it is really what kind of experience I want to have and what kind of clients I want to attract.
I noticed when I increased my rates, I got fewer clients but the ones I attracted were quite considerate, and (surprise) also tended to generously tip. Sometimes there's some social time. Feels more like a date.
One guy says no decent indy provider should really go below $300/hour in this market and he should know, so I trust his advice on that. Any of the few times he's gone lower than that, he's regretted it. Most of his ATFs are $300-$400/hour. I'd be interested to hear what other guys think but I do believe him on that. I think it's a mistake to charge less than $300.
I agree with the poster about the BP girls.There are some pretty girls on BP. It's seems TGTBT. If they're legit, they should just get off BP and get a website and advertise. It's so easy. And charge more. I would be afraid to see one of them because if they had any sense they'd be charging more, as pretty and young as they are (that's the other thing -- some of them look TOO young).
I don't know that my experience as a provider is really typical - in fact, I'm sure it isn't - but that's my feedback. Pricing is tough! And putting a price on something like this...it just isn't intuitive.
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I find what you said about noticing a difference in the type of clients you attracted as your price went up to be interesting.
You, and any experienced provider, would be in a better position to know the relation between price and type of clients better than any client.
I'm wondering if the same is true for multi-hour dates?
Those are always my preferece, but my price range for 2 hours is $500-$600.
I like the relaxed pace and having the time for a little nice convo.
Ironically, at least in terms of your observation about clients and price, if I were to get tempted to see a $400 lady, I'd probably only book for an hour (which I've never done before), and might not seem quite as "gentlemenly" lol as I usually am because I'd be more anxious not to have a "wasted" minute!
Regarding your question about provider pricing, I've had good to great experiences with every lady I've seen, this includes several who were in the $250 range - but they all had good reviews, so I wasn't going out on limb. I haven't had a bad date yet, although I did have a lady bail on me for no good reason at the last minute (she was actually the highest priced I'd tried to date, but was definately the flakiest - no interest in her anymore).
It really is a funny little world this is, where someone who charges less than $300 an hour is judged to be lower end, and the guys who pay less than $300 are often considered cheap. But, I must say, I am the greatest respecter of the free market and how it works to determine price! And the ladies in this business take huge risks, so whatever works for them, more power to them. It's Economics 101.
For me, and I think a lot of ladies, the fee of $300 is the price of admission BUT that doesn't mean after 50 minutes we nec. kick you out the door. At $200 I might feel more pressured to watch the clock, but at $300 I can relax. It is a funny thing. Maybe it's a head thing.
And then when you look at the mature providers in my range, usually the rate gets a whole lot better after 2 hours min, not always, but often. So I might charge $300 for the hour, but if it extended to 90 min, I wouldn't pout, and for two hours, at $400, that is not half bad (and I say that in comparison, $400 is still a lot of lettuce), and less expensive than some BP. I mean, a provider has to be reasonable in this business. I see some people charging $1000 for an extended date and I'm like whoa, are you SERIOUS? What can you possibly pull off that would merit the fee of a grand? But, like you said, free market. More power to them!
Sure, there are a lot of good options at $250 although once you get in that price range, just going by what I read on the boards, the flake-out, NCNS factor tends to rise exponentially. Not a given by any means, perhaps just a tendency. And there are more high-priced providers who flake out too. So if I were a client and I could find a good indie at $250 why would I pay $300, right? If you can find what you want at $200 then you should of course book there.
No one is cheap for paying $250! I didn't mean to imply that it was. That's a whole lot of money. I couldn't afford it myself. I think $12 for a movie is a bit much! 
So I would never think someone was cheap for shelling out that kind of cash. On the contrary, I think it's great that clients are taking care of themselves, because the ones I meet work awfully hard, and they do deserve it.
It's so interesting to learn your thoughts on this and you gave me a lot to think about today Thanks! And have fun in this funny little world!
Interesting to hear your thoughts re the physchological aspect of pricing from a providers point of view (as I had offered mine re how I might act on a 1 hr date with a higher rate lady). Hadn't heard it put that way in terms of pricing impacting how you might feel on a date (more relaxed if getting a higher rate). Regarding how men are viewed, I didn't mean to imply that YOU thought guys were cheap who look for $250 per hour, but that seems to be a popular sentiment in general, which is revealing about the new "reality" this business creates in people's minds (how many other professional services will any of us pay for in our lives will come close to $250 per hour afterall?). Then again, if ladies notice a difference in the quality of gentlemen at different price points, then that is pretty good evidence and speaks for itself. My job and nature are both analytical, so I do find the this market to be interesting to analyze (though yes, actually partaking in it is infinitely more fun!). Oh, and like you say, a lot of ladies reduce their hourly rate after the first hour, which makes intuitive sense to me, but I'm actually surprised at how many don't do this to in order to encourage longer dates.
I like your approach to things. And I'm with you on the movies prices!
All the Best...
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And they say brothas are cheap and rob the girls....if anything brothas are over paying and treating her like a queen because that's her main client base/target base, But that's another thread
I would tend to agree, that for Washington, DC 300 is kind of the new floor for minimum. I would 280 would get you noticed if you're a new provider, but if you're an established provider and you drop to 280, that would make me wonder - unless it was a periodic special or something.
I think its tough for asian women, because they're competing with the FCCCs of the world that charge a good chunk less for some specialized services.
The other point that guys forget, and I mentioned it above, is you get a clean fresh smelling provider that is at least college educated if not a masters degree. Well travelled, and well spoken. They don't sound like a hood rat nor a country bumpkin. Can carry on a conversation about a myriad of things and aren't assembly line service.
IMHO, and I chat with my buddies about this, going the provider gives you a wide selection to choose from and you get a discrete location, no hotel bill or other expenses showing up on your credit card, and WE don't have to pay for a hotel room. If you're having an affair, the room alone will set you back a hundred or two hundred dollars, plus the associated risks. If you're not getting a room, then you're having sex somewhere that you'll most likely get caught.
Ditto.
Girls can charge any figure....but it's what guys are willing to pay at the end.
However, If you cater to non newbies... guys will read reviews and service standards must be maintained.
Now a BP newbie friendly doesn't have pressure as millions of dudes turn 18 everyday and are wet behind the ears, haha.
You see Indan Brea a know ripoff posting on eros for years no matter what we post here because new guys pop up everyday that know nothing of this website
I am 300 an hour for InCall and 400 for outcall. Around the holidays I will offer specials and it's not because I am desperate it's maybe because I already have plans and am hoping for an extra appointment. I don't like getting rooms for single hour appointment. If it's for more then an hour then it's no problem. And I would hate to let the gentlemen down by canceling because I am only seeing him. I am all about making everyone happy.
A 9 in appearance can generally charge more than a 7 or even an 8 but it all depends on what the market will support. You rarely see a provider that is a 7 on looks that is charging $500-$600 per hour b/c the market will not support that. And imo, if you are charging that much per hour, you better be pretty damn hot.
Good menu and good performance will allow ladies to raise there rates a bit, but men are visual creatures so I think in general that more attractive providers can/will usually charge more.
I have been doing this on and off for about 20 years..Granted for the most part because of BP I see 1990's prices today ($150 hour and $100 for a half hour)..But when I see a lady that has been working for 10+ years I wonder why she still has the same rate or even higher..I went to AVN and attended the TER Meet and Greet..There were some ladies I saw 10+ years ago where I paid $400+ an hour and seeing either how they aged badly or put on excess weight I would not even pay half of what they want today..Which is still $400+ an hour.
I always thought the more you age or weight you gain the rate would go down not stay the same or go up!
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Not to be a complete cee you next Tuesday but by the same logic maybe you should be paying the same or more because they're not the only ones who have aged in the last ten years. Unless you have magically managed to have less wrinkles, firmer balls, a new six pack, and more stamina than you had ten plus years ago… judge not less ye be judged.
While looks are always important in this hobby, there is definitely something to be said for experience and depth. Besides some women are like a fine wine and get better with age. Always hearing complaints about hot 18 and 19 year olds who weren't into it, or stood the guy up or just laid there because…well they're hot and can. Decide what's important to you and choose accordingly. There's someone for everyone.
Just sayin..
A gentleman that is 50+ is going to be more comfortable with a "Demi Moore" than a "Miley Cyrus." There are a lot of "Miley's" willing to stop by and do the deed. But how many "Demi's" are there that you can share an evening with? Not many. Mature, intelligent And beautiful is in demand and the woman's rate can reflect that.
I tend to agree with statements like this, especially regarding those providers who are not reliable, not good for their word, and are inexperienced in life in general; compared to the "mature" women who are reliable, who are prepared because they take the time to properly plan things, not to be rushing around because they are trying to get down with as many guys with a couple of hundred bills to drop as they can find. That's what is behind those nonstop complaints about the inexperienced who "just weren't into it," or who flaked at the last minute, or were in some other way just plain unreliable.
As for the comment that some women are like fine wine? I can tell you this, one of the best compliments I have ever received is from a long term regular friend who told me that some women are (like me, he said) beautiful to look at, when they open their mouths, they lose whatever chimera of beauty they had. Others, he said like me, become more beautiful once they open their mouths. That was a huge compliment, and I'll remember that for the rest of my life.
And I have to say regarding the expert from up thread, with the sage experience gained from all of six months as a provider and her opinion regarding rates, take that with a grain of salt. It takes money to rent good hotel rooms in safe areas. I am not going to do that for $300. Why would I? All of that, plus my effort to be all that I should be, for what? $100? No one can offer top notch companionship at $300 an hour unless she is seeing a LOT of people in that same room. If you want to be one on the assembly line, go for it, but you're very likely to feel every bit like a piece of meat on an assembly line.
It takes money to do a lot of what we do when we do it properly. And if I am not entitled to make a decent living from all that I am, all that I put into every encounter, and all that I have spent, not to mention the opportunity cost, then something is very wrong with this picture.
The bottom line is that most of the time, you get what you pay for. If you want to see someone who offers half-hours, you're going to get all the care and planning that ought to go into planning for spending a whole half hour with someone. If you are looking for purely price points, or otherwise treating this as any other item for sale in a retail store, you';reprobably going about it wrong, as in not thoroughly checking out what that lady has shared of herself online--and you are still likely to get what you pay for. If you want to be one of the many men "serviced" that day? YOu'll get what you pay for.
And people with all of six months experience at this just haven't seen enough to give an opinion with any authority. It takes experience to know what this world is about, and six months is not enough.
While looks are always important in this hobby, there is definitely something to be said for experience and depth. Besides some women are like a fine wine and get better with age. Always hearing complaints about hot 18 and 19 year olds who weren't into it, or stood the guy up or just laid there because…well they're hot and can. Decide what's important to you and choose accordingly. There's someone for everyone.
Just sayin..