Can these illiterate, dick-headed assholes please be kept off the board??!! If you are so effing cheap-assed that you need to try to bargain with the ladies, please effing go home. And by the way, retard, most people call it hard EARNED money...guess grammar is not your long suit; nor is personal relations. Maybe you're good at grabbing catfish by hand, or shoplifting...
If you read through these pages you will see that there is a demand for more reasonable rates, however many ladies don't openly say they offer that.
Guys, don't you forget, you are a client/customer, you got the $$s and there are 1000s of girls out there competing for your $$s. It is YOUR market, so you can give it away or make sure you take full mileage from your $$s
Recently I contacted a $350/hr lady, right off the start, she offered $50 discount if I was able to see her based on a strange schedule which was OK with me, so we are now at $300/hr, I told her $300/hr is like $150 for 30min, being an odd hour how about we go for $150 for 30min as I am not sure if I can stay the whole hour, she said OK.
I went there had the TIME of my life, I mean NON-STOP action and when the time was up, I told her, damn I wish I could have booked more, she said no problem you can stay longer for paying more, I told her, I only have another $50 (Which was the truth) she said NP, so here I am getting BBBJ, CIM, Greek and the works for the whole hour at $200/hr ..
the guys after me not only got sloppy seconds, but also paid $350 for that! - She only asked me not to write a review with the right price, which I didn't
But that is how you make a deal, there is no shame in asking and hustling, it is your HARD earn money!
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Unless she required references and found out that you are an attractive guy or a well known player on this board ?
or
She is not that attractive.
is when I book an overnight and the girl does not have overnight rates posted on her site. I book for an hour first and if we click then I bring up overnight costs on the phone (no text) once a trust has been established with the girl.
To the thredstarter. Consider yourself lucky that you may have come across a provider who may have been in desperate need for money. Maybe the mortgage was due or the kids needed back to school clothes. Yes, these things happen but they are the exeption and not the norm.
I sure do appreciate it when the clock strikes the 60-minute park and we are both naked licking each others genitals that she continues until a prudent moment to remind me that my time is up. Thankfully, the girls dont take a business approach to providing. So we as hobbyists should not take a business approach as well.
I love a good negotiation but this type of service is rarely negotiable. The provider must have been motivated by a need for cash. The women I know wouldn't have bothered, but then again I don't know too many women who would do a 30 minute rate. Maybe you found a keeper for your approach. I wouldn't toss her contact info.
This post has to be "Iknowsolo". He posts a reply to every post, but nothing yet on this one. Can't post as your real username and an alias under the same thread. We'll see if he shows up, but I"m betting not.
If this was not you that started this thread then post some of your typical immature jabber here under your Iknowsolo handle and prove that you did not start this thread.
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LMAO. Sure sounds like him (should be IKnow DollarStore)
I see that only one alias can be used in a post thread, and one should not be able to use an alias and actual handle in same posting thread.
I am a gentleman first and foremost. I will not negotiate, I pay the rate asked or I don't seek the attention of a particular lady.
Yep, I think you're right. See his post on the thread below this one.
you are the front runners for the "Beavis and Butthead" award for this year.
You two really don't know the meaning of FREE. Nothing is really ever free. You have opportunity cost, risk and time. We value our time and the providers, and don't spend hours working to close the deal and spend bucks along the way for FREE girls with no guarantee of anything beyond our wildest fantasy. We minimize risk, by being discreet and don't have to worry about looking over our shoulders after our time together as it was quality time we shared in a physical sense and we then both move on and no personal information is left behind. We don't have to BS our way to affection. If a small price to pay, when we have a variety of providers at our finger tips and pretty much can choose what we are in the mood for. Time is something everyone gets equally (rich or poor) and you can't get it back after it is gone. So what you say you get for FREE with lots of vested time in the process, we make arrangements for a passing hour then use the rest of our opportunity time to create more wealth or spend that "priceless" time with our children. While I work hard to make deals and get bargains in work and life, I pay the FULL price here and 90% of the time I tip for good or better service. At the end of the day, is FREE worth it? Been down that road before and it cost just as much when you account for everything other than $$$. ( I still dap into this so-call FREE market, but really love the other side of life even better) If you guys are making $7.75 per hour, then I say, go for it. Get the free girls. You may not have understood shit about what I said, but if $7.75 hr is in the ballpark, then let me tell you that your opportunity cost and risk are very low and you have lots of time to waste, so your "TRUE" cost is really below CL & BP pricing and FREE girls is were it's at for both of you. There is a human side to this world too, but you two are not ready for that just yet. I too think the alias is Iknowsolo. Hey "ishitunot" the truth hurts when you are finally educated with the economics of FREE, you stud you
I wonder if he has any other names?
Can these illiterate, dick-headed assholes please be kept off the board??!! If you are so effing cheap-assed that you need to try to bargain with the ladies, please effing go home. And by the way, retard, most people call it hard EARNED money...guess grammar is not your long suit; nor is personal relations. Maybe you're good at grabbing catfish by hand, or shoplifting...
would have compassion for the provider knowing she may be in need of money and give her more than she asked for. Treating a human being as a human and not equating them to a dollar figure is what we all should strive for. Plus, associating money with any sex act is just absurd and in violating of law. Haggling over the donation for her time should never be tolerated by the providers or fellow clients. Treat the woman as you would treat your girlfriend and think of her as the goddess who smells like an angel, lucky that she has chosen you to spend her time with.
...the OP is. I too figured this was Solo posting under an alias. Hope it is, instead of two people on this board having that ridiculous, offensive mindset. Maybe he should try negotiating with his right hand and see where that gets him. Then he is actually just dealing with a piece of meat, rather than another human being. That's all he's suited for -- along wth BP and CL.
I usually ignore posts like this, I find them disgusting, but there are so many of them lately I had to put my 2 cents in. Its bad enough you have to screw people out of their lively hood to get your jollies, but bragging about it is 2ft lower than whale s#!t.
It's people like you that make it harder for the rest of us and drive good people out of the business because they don’t want to deal with cheap, inconsiderate a$$h0les.
I'm a big believer in the value of the free market -- just sad to think that you think that bragging about your negotiating skills is a good thing.
In the end, no matter how this is packaged, this is a business transaction and offers can always be turned down. At $350, the provider's price was too high for this particular hobbyist (and for me too) and a negotiation was started for a mutually agreeable price. Every provider has a right to turn down an offer and there is no harm in asking whether a half hour rate is possible. At the end of the half hour, he truthfully stated that he only had $50 and she was willing to accept it. Negotiating when meeting for the first time is dangerous for LE purposes but that is not what happened here. They had an agreement prior to the meeting and after activities began which eliminated any LE suspicions, negotiated a mutually agreeable rate for an extension. CheapFatHobbiest is only stating the obvious -- it is a buyer's market and even posted rates can sometimes be negotiated.
I've read this board for awhile wondering if some posters are a bunch of losers that can't get laid unless they pay....ya'll have confirmed that belief wholeheartedly with your follow up postings. Sex is freeflowing for guys that can relate to, and talk to normal woman, while providers are toys to enhance a normal lifestyle; not objects to cherish or believe they actually want a normal relationship, unless your a loser. Guys that get pussy all the time or are married and don't want the pussy they have will understand me. You losers won't. Guys that can get laid for free wouldn't think twice about negotiating a lessor price for some fun. To us its part of the fun, cuz afterall, we can get it for free. Sorry, but truth hurts sometimes, i shit u not.
Guys, don't you forget, you are a client/customer, you got the $$s and there are 1000s of girls out there competing for your $$s. It is YOUR market, so you can give it away or make sure you take full mileage from your $$s
Recently I contacted a $350/hr lady, right off the start, she offered $50 discount if I was able to see her based on a strange schedule which was OK with me, so we are now at $300/hr, I told her $300/hr is like $150 for 30min, being an odd hour how about we go for $150 for 30min as I am not sure if I can stay the whole hour, she said OK.
I went there had the TIME of my life, I mean NON-STOP action and when the time was up, I told her, damn I wish I could have booked more, she said no problem you can stay longer for paying more, I told her, I only have another $50 (Which was the truth) she said NP, so here I am getting BBBJ, CIM, Greek and the works for the whole hour at $200/hr ..
the guys after me not only got sloppy seconds, but also paid $350 for that! - She only asked me not to write a review with the right price, which I didn't
But that is how you make a deal, there is no shame in asking and hustling, it is your HARD earn money!
WOW.......... Ladies take note that there is a real live stallion here. Not only does he buzzsaw through sorority sisters, corporate cuties, and every cougar in town but he even has the time, dime and energy to troll TER for providers to screw on his spare time also.
Romeo, what is your secret? Is it the Cialis for daily use?
"Guys that can get laid for free wouldn't think twice about negotiating a lessor price"
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You and your kindred spirit, ishitunot, fail to understand that in the hobby "what you can get for free" is irrelevant. Among my many talents I am a expert griller of meats. Does this mean that I can not appreciate a great barbecue joint or perfectly prepared ribeye at a top flight restaurant because I am asked to pay for it? No! Because many of us are well traveled, educated, and successful men we are in daily contact with extraordinary ladies. This exposure allows us to recognize and really appreciate that same type of woman in a provider.
In the P4P world the only hierarchy among hobbyists starts and ends with those who are gentleman and those who are not. Which are you?
Well you certainly told me! We have different ideas on what's fun. If I had to negotiate a price, I'd find something else to do. Maybe you and cheapfathobbiest should hand each other while you share your extreme skills with the ladies.
I would never disrespect a lady and I despise those that do. In fact, if I see someone being disrespectful to a lady I will confront them right then and there. I feel sorry for a lady that would put up with your bullshit.
Also you are wrong if you think that only ugly guys who can't get laid feel this way. I'm married. That's why I hobby period. Im a good looking guy and have never had a problem meeting attractive women I don't want the complications that come with a civie affair. I don't need to be getting late night texts or phone calls. Been there done that.
The truth is that you are pissed that you have to pay for sex so you take it out on the ladies that you see. If you can treat a lady like shit and she let's you do it, it makes you feel better about your pathetic self.
Jd
There are two camps with a few subsets.
The thread starters group see escorts in general as a real live buyers(their words) market. Sort of a rug merchants bazaar in the flesh. Lets make a deal is polite way of describing this groups' view of the women they see. Things simply are reduced to what the market will bear.
Everything is negotible and money talks baby.
The second group sees things as a straight forward offer and acceptance issue. They respect the rules put forth and accept or move along to someone else.
Emotions may or may not have a part with either party. The later group includes many who seem to look at escorts with respect and in some cases genuine affection and respect. The former group, well, they could be buying chips and beer at 7-11 or Walmart..which ever works. Its sexual release, conquest and victory for this group baby! I think you get my drift of this groups' true feelings about providers and what they think of them as human beings.
Now, the question is, if the situation were reversed for group one and you were the provider, would you see any of these discusting creeps in group one? Well would you? Ever? You would have to be very hard up Im thinking. Now you know what the they feel. So, how ya feeling about all this? Is it okay cause I think it says a lot about you as human beings.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHH!!! This is why the DC area remains grossly over priced...all these WHITE KNIGHTS who post about nonsense. Hell I bet many have piped up just to be recognized by their favorite providers for brownie points - common white knights man up and say its so very true.
I agree with most here. The only time I will play with the rates is to raise it based on the quality time.
I had a 3 hour visit this spring and did not put down the correct amount. My date did not count but for some reason it struct me that I had not calculated correctly so I quickly made up the mistake. If you can not afford to play watch some porn etc.
yea, good luck living this down
2 different things....unless I offer don't ask me for sugar honey iced tea because it will not end well.
You can put no negotiating until you're blue in the face and many read it as a suggestion.... DC has gotten almost as cheap as Philly which is why a lot of ladies who don't want to charge as low as they do find it hard to compete with streetwalkers who come to better sites with street prices. You bring street prices most will expect it. Some don't see us no matter how we price ourselves there plenty who will try to bargain and then give insults if you don't agree and act like we forced them to call. It never fails how some forget that you chose to call the girl it's not like she put a gun to your head...crazy.
Guys, don't you forget, you are a client/customer, you got the $$s and there are 1000s of girls out there competing for your $$s. It is YOUR market, so you can give it away or make sure you take full mileage from your $$s
Recently I contacted a $350/hr lady, right off the start, she offered $50 discount if I was able to see her based on a strange schedule which was OK with me, so we are now at $300/hr, I told her $300/hr is like $150 for 30min, being an odd hour how about we go for $150 for 30min as I am not sure if I can stay the whole hour, she said OK.
I went there had the TIME of my life, I mean NON-STOP action and when the time was up, I told her, damn I wish I could have booked more, she said no problem you can stay longer for paying more, I told her, I only have another $50 (Which was the truth) she said NP, so here I am getting BBBJ, CIM, Greek and the works for the whole hour at $200/hr ..
the guys after me not only got sloppy seconds, but also paid $350 for that! - She only asked me not to write a review with the right price, which I didn't
But that is how you make a deal, there is no shame in asking and hustling, it is your HARD earn money!
alias flipped by Moderator
-- Modified on 9/14/2010 4:57:26 PM