Getting a straight answer on this question is going to next to impossible, It's like asking a bunch of football fan who the greatest player there ever was. Everyone will have a different answer.

On Eros VIP means the lady pays extra money for the title, ends up on the top of the list for that day.
so that term is useless

As for upscale service it's all a marketing gimmick, like new and improved, any lady can say that are they provide upscale service, is it really, well the only way to find out is read her reviews or go see her and find out for yourself. But you have the same problem what one guy thinks is upscale service, another guy will say it's not.

TER does have some guidelines about it but they are not really followed these days. Then there was the St Bart scale, from years ago.


Here is a post by St Bart to describe his scale.

Posted by Saint Bart , Fri, Aug 08, 2003, 12:37:19



I can't get the post to link, so here's the text:

"Since there's a developing use of the Saint Bart Scale here in Indyland... Missy says it's used all over the US (and even Shauna at B de J uses it on her site to describe some of her ladies)... I guess I'd better post (again) its details.

When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about... some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE ... the reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed... it can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist... "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC... actual CIM... to me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a "+", or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending... so Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses... more were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse??). I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me... B&D, or golden showers, etc.

Real GFs have been delivering GFEs since Adam and Eve... I've simply tried to tie it all together to help hobbyists get the info they need without putting ladies on the spot."

Stay well all, and play nicely!


Just my 2 cents on the question.

OK, the Nina Star thread below prompts this question.  IMHO, In summary, GFE equates upscale service VS. Non-GFE equates to a reduced level of service.

Sure, a provider can add candles, a nice 5 star location, dressed for the part, etc....But in the end if the desires of the client are not fullfilled i.e. DATY, BBBJ, DFK...then the rest is just window dressing.

If the client can't kiss you, no DATY allowed, and All things covered (BareBack fucking excluded as this is almost tantamount to suicide).  Then can this be considered "Upscale Service?"

Does VIP = "Upscale Service?"  I've seen some VIP types and typically come away with the feeling of...."Damn, I coulda had a V8"  When a porvider adds VIP to her title does this set herr up to having provide "Upscale Service?" and if so, how do the parties agree on what "Upscale Service" is?

Can't wait to hear what say you........I cant stand the fucking Bill O'Reily......Go get em "Luda"

...cliches is always subject to individual interpretation.  That being said, personally speaking, an upscale provider to me is as follows:

--She needs to have a clean, easy to navigate website w/o typos. It needs to be professionally done w/professional pictures

--She needs to be prompt and professional in her communication - may it be over email/text or phone...

--She needs to host at an upscale 4 or 5 star hotel and needs to be  dressed for the occasion. Candles would be nice.  Freshly showered, and it goes w/o saying that I don't want to smell any cigarette on you, or particularly care for what you had for lunch that afternoon.

--She needs to provide DFK, BBBJ, DATY, and CFS

-- Modified on 8/7/2012 12:32:36 PM

I agree... I would add Greek perhaps and maybe CIM.

A great and willing attitude throughout.  Friendly and flirty etc.

Upscale restaurants and events have certain standards of service... If you to the Nat's game and sit in the Lexus Club they have food, beer, concierge etc.  It's different from the prices elsewhere in the stands for good reason.

I could say the same thing about an upscale car etc etc

Your definition is good.  I would just say upscale needs to be professional and the epitome of class.

Let me add...

That how a provider carries herself prior to the appointment is everything... I use communications before the appointment to gauge the level of service...  

I am a business owner myself... If a client wants to come in and kick the tires, I'm more than happy to provide a good attitude and friendly service.  I'd like to think I provide upscale service.  I expect upscale service from an upscale provider.

I'll give a few examples.

I emailed a porn star to ask when she was coming in town.  She said in a few days actually.  I said cool email me when you get to town.  She said she'd be busy and her assistant does that.  Told me to email her assistant.  You can't contact me in 48 hours really?  No thanks.  Sweetheart if you don't have time to take note of my email address and hit me up in a few days I can only imagine what you might not have time for during the appointment.

I called a provider to see if she was available.  She sounded gruff and ghetto and hung up on me.  She texted a few minutes later and explained she was somewhere at the time she took the call.  That's cool.  When I pick up my professional line if I'm carrying groceries I take a moment to set them down, collect myself, and put on a professional demeanor.  I don't respond to her texts any longer.  I'd hate to get to the room lay down my envelope and all of a sudden her inner Shenaynay comes out.

I was in touch with another provider long story short.  I asked for an ass photo lmao... She referred me to her website which I had already seen.  Now if one of my clients asked for a photo of my goods I'd be happy to oblige.  But that's just me.  Some of you may especially disagree with this one... but it is what it is.

Another time I sent a flirty PM to a provider.  She didn't reply... That's cool.  But I wouldn't call her listed number to book her.  If a client emails me whether or not they are ready to do business or if it's just an inquiry etc.  I respond as promptly as possible with thorough and friendly correspondence.  Even if they never purchase a thing, more often than not someone will come and say their friend so and so had spoken to me and recommended me.

Long posts with lots of examples.  I'm sure many of you will disagree with my logic but it is what it is. I may in fact have missed out on some good providers with poor communication skills but that's my prerogative. It's my personal belief you can get a clue as to a provider's service based on things beside reviews in instances where you're on the fence as to if you'd like to see them.  I think most consumers shop where they're treated right.

But again that's just me.  Don't shoot! lol

I am so confused with all the classifications and acronyms! Really guys? I do agree, attaching a bunch of acronyms in an ad is a marketing ploy. So services+ location= upscale? I would think it would be the type of client that the lady caters to and dates would define her as upscale or VIP? What do I know? I guess keeping it real is overrated, I don't fit into any mold, I just luv to do it- call me a rebel whore if you will but that's just me!

The proper definition of "Upscale Service?" is relative to points of view have no absolute truth or validity, having only relative, subjective value according to differences in perception and consideration.

Good luck on finding a definitive answer....

* Kisses*

Jayla

I agree 110%!!!  Customer service is customer service, regardless of the service!  I think "upscale" encompasses the quality of the entire package you are receiving, from the beginning of the transaction to the end (although, hopefully, it will be a long, mutually satisfying relationship).

This should include professionalism of all communications, quality of location, attitude, etc. Whether you're looking for GFE, PSE, or a back alley BJ, clear expectations and consistency in the service will determine the level.

But, that's just what I think