Question, debate on discounts for repeat clients.

I've seen some providers raise their rates, but say something along the lines of "old friends can continue paying the same old rate."  I've personally repeated many times with certain ladies in the past/present, and in return, they've either given me a HUGE discounted rate on future dates, or they've literally stopped watching the clock for an hour or more (Sorry, but I won't be sharing their info with anyone.)

I've been grandfathered into the old rate structure by several wonderful ladies.  One did it for only 6 months (so I saw her exactly 6 months later); others don't seem to put a time limit on it.  That is not the same as a discount for a provider who doesn't raise her rates, but given how many ladies do raise their rates, it is effectively a discount.  

As someone that enjoys her repeat friends, I don't get to spoil them as much as I'd like!  

But price does matter to me too.  I might see a bucket list lady who is over my budget, but even if the experience is great, most likely I still won't repeat.  When I was brand new (I've only been at this a little over 2 years), I spent more time contemplating pricing theory of this hobby (grandfathering, the logic of reducing the hourly rate for multi hour dates, etc.).  Now, not so much.  This is just a bunch of individuals kinda winging it figuring things as they go.  If a lady raises her rates above my general comfort level and doesn't offer grand fathering, so be it.  If she is successful at the higher rate, then good for her.  Still loads of great ladies who do fall within my comfort level.

Maybe the key is volume. I’m sure each lady knows how many appointments she can schedule in a day, week, month without losing it, and she knows how much she needs to make ends meet, to reach a certain goal, etc. At too low a price point, she’d have to make more appointments than she’d be comfortable with. Even with regulars.

I appreciate the quantitative analysis, but is there really that much economic rationality in all this? Provider rates vary from $200/hr to $400 or $500 $ or $600 or even $1,000/hr. There are usually corresponding differences in appearance or quality of performance, but I think there are selective $300/hr experiences that are as good as $600. It's like real estate agents or wait staff - those whose commissions or tips at the lower end often work as hard or harder than those at the upper end but earn much less.  

who happened to check me out then circle back three months after I raised my rate quoting the old price-and I grandfathered him in though it was our first session. Then over a year later with no appointment since that one encounter, he seems to be bothered about the increase, though he never qualified for the grandfathering to begin with.  

Did you ask her if you are grandfathered in or did you just assume?  She may had changed her rate for new people and not for old clients. Asking is the key to getting the right answer. If you didn't ask then your assuming and missing out but to be honest - if you stop seeing your lady because of a small price difference just know there's 10x more guys willing to take your place

Amen

I wasnt only referring to grandfathering.  

...gentlemen really do not become any more regular, than when no discount is given.

As Kelly states below, many ladies will cut you a deal if you can *guarantee* a certain amount of business. A lot of guys talk a big game about becoming regulars, but don't follow through, so she would have to structure the discount in a way that ensures her income.

In theory what you say is nice, but it becomes complicated and messy.  

How would one advertise that this is available?  PM me?  I'd love to ask more about this, as I have a few gentlemen who might find this convenient.

An agency in another state used to have an advertised rate ,then throughout the day would go from $300 an hour to $250 to $225 an hour (I assume cause they weren't busy enough), so what ended up happening is that no clients would ever book at the full rate cause all they had to do was wait a few hours and sure enough the agency would post or, send the email out with the specials.  

You have an inflated view of what your patronage is worth.  You're probably a bottom tier client who they could get along just fine without.  That, and it's probably annoying to entertain coupon clippers.  There are gentlemen seeing providers for multi-hour and nightly visits on a regular basis, and you think your one hour splurge entitles you to some sort of special treatment?  lol.  

LMAO!!!  

The guy didn't say he ACTIVELY tried to negotiate a lady down, just that he had a price point that he was comfortable with - the rest was just musing about hobby pricing models and their impact.

...I'm glad to pay the same rate. For me, the VALUE of our dates go up over time. I'd never consider asking for, much less expect, a discount

Yes, I have experienced on many, many occasions ladies provide deep discounts for my repeat business and I guess i'm just a nice guy....lol.

Don't even get me started you model-like wonder. *shudder*

Agree, good analysis. There are plenty of great girls between 3 and 4.

I, like you, gave up on trying to figure out pricing a loong time ago.  As was stated, this hobby game is a luxury.  Hence, I pay what I can afford at the time with the lady I prefer at the time....simple!

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Stamp his ass. A free session after, say, 10 visits. If the ink hadn't faded, it'd still be good.


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Maybe they're trying to tell you something.

I never asked and I never got reduced hourly rates, but ladies have spent extra times with me -- dinners, shopping, sleepovers, vacations, etc.

I agree Kelly, the prepay works very well for me too. I get paid at the beginning of the month for say 10 hours and the gentlemen ends up with several bonus hours or I will do a 10 hour reduced rate prepay. Win - Win. Everybody is happy and the financial exchange is out of the way.  

I bet they don't get more appointments than before.

....don't bother to ask about grandfathering. Well I take that back a little lol he can ask but should neither be offended, surprised or angry at the response of "nope" that comes after.  Grandfathering imo is a privilege not a right and definitely should be not only earned but maintained. You want the perks you gotta keep your "membership" active lol.

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Ok, so I didn't take the 101 course, but I understand to shut my mouth now.  I would like to point out the hypocrisy in your response though.

for repeat business is to make that client ecstatically happy with the experience provided.  Most providers with whom I try to repeat are the ones who leave me with memories that I very much want to experience again.  And I'm the sort of person for whom no amount of discount would entice me to return to a provider who didn't make me feel that way.  As always, YMMV!

I'm here, next round on me beautiful...

And fully understood it each time.  My phrase "musing about hobby pricing models" covers his whole discussion. Sorry if you don't get that.  Really not much more that I can say.  I think my post was clear enough.

My comment was a general instruction to all Hobbyist who find themselves the recipient of good fortune.  

I have a set limit on how much I am willing to pay for an hour.  Some escorts that I have seen have raised their and the rate is beyond my limit and I will not see them anymore.  But sometimes I will inquire whether I am grandfathered to the old rate and if they say yes, I will see them again and if they say no, that's fine, I just move on.  I don't expect to be grandfathered but if they consent, it is all good to me.  Most of the time, favorites move on and you have to find new ones anymore

Those who stress over $50 differences in this area of entertainment might want to consider a different hobby.  This isn't a row of competing hotdog stands on the boardwalk or a scavenger hunt for the cheapest happy hour on the block. You're describing your own wish that providers will start handing out discounts just in case clients might respond well.  Here's an alternative. If you want a "repeat client discount," then ask for it.  Don't expect ladies to conduct economic experiments for you at a cost to themselves, nor to offer discounts widely that don't matter to most of us.

Two of my favorites, on popular and one UTR have both decided to raise rates publicly on their websites. One grandfathered me at the original rate from several years ago, and yes I see her regularly. The other one (a visitor) has higher expenses (airline, high end hotels, expensive tastes for dinner, a new car and a new house). And more clients that her schedule allows. She raised her rate by 1 to 5 overnight recently. If you can't afford it than move onto what you can afford. I am moving on.  They own the product, its theirs to control and market as they see fit. Asking for discounts makes them mad and feel that you are devaluing them. This is not a service to dicker with.