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Shane_Falco 2681 reads
posted
1 / 25

I met a lady on a business trip, and talked her into touring here, since then I have seen here on every trip she has made here, and she even checks with me before confirming her travel that her dates work with my schedule. She is now traveling her about once a month. I would like to continue seeing her, but would like to see her maybe every other trip, but I am not sure how to address this with out hurting her feelings.  

Any advice?

SinCitySinner 67 Reviews 845 reads
posted
2 / 25
cocktail-party 680 reads
posted
3 / 25
Shane_Falco 1234 reads
posted
4 / 25

She knows my TER handle. So if I say I can't afford to see her, but post a review of another lady, she will get her feelings hurt that I lied to her if nothing else.

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 976 reads
posted
5 / 25

she asks if the timing for a trip works say no.

gameami 1 Reviews 1008 reads
posted
6 / 25

Open a second TER account to review other ladies.

Life410 12 Reviews 932 reads
posted
7 / 25

....cause how many girls are coming to this area once month and check-in with a dude to set up a schedule....ya know, after they were convinced to tour the area? And if she doesn't read this board and you didn't give it away....  

I mean call Dr Phill and explain the committed relationship you are in with a provider that will not even let ya smush for free....yet alone not buy ya the damn 2for1 apple pie from McDonalds afterwards.  

 

And them Mickey D's apple pies be quite nice after working up a sweat smushing. #wor

Jstgttnstrtd 18 Reviews 991 reads
posted
8 / 25

you will see her next month if she comes back.  Then just establish the pattern that you want going forward.
I'm sure she is very happy to have a good regular customer, and will only be very lightly less happy if that regularity is reduced a bit.

wrps07 1042 reads
posted
9 / 25

Remember this is p4p. Something that you don't have to do. The ladies have to realize that you are giving up something (ie capital for investment) to be able to them.

NorahLucille See my TER Reviews 918 reads
posted
10 / 25

You can tell her that exactly as you've said it. Hell, you could even link her to this thread. She's probably keeping you updated because that's what you've indicated that you wanted and what you responded to in the past. She may think of you as a regular and you haven't given her any indication that you don't want to be contacted. Just mention you're thinking of broadening your horizons/spreading your hobby funds a bit and you'd like to be contacted and to still see her but only every other month. That's reasonable and gives her the indication that your engagements will continue since you are so worried about hurting her feelings.  

On another note, I can understand feeling an obligation to see her since you were the persuading force for touring and probably her "anchor" appointment (if all else fails, at least this appointment will always follow through), but if she's continued touring she's probably built up enough presence and has found her spot in the new market.  

If you want to do it the hard way, ignore her and make her think you don't want to see her at all.

I rarely ever tour, but count me on the list of ladies who confer with regulars, previous clients, and those who've asked to be contacted before booking an incall.

BeautywithBrains See my TER Reviews 852 reads
posted
11 / 25

...company immensely, you have limted time to hobby (hate that word), and would like to leave your options open.  I would also be honest, and tell her that seeing her once every other trip would be something you would truly look forward to.  

    I build tours around my other profession or private invitations, but many ladies count on gentleman such as your self, to see them each and evry time they visit a city.  In other words; you are covering expenses.

    Just my .02.

Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly

AngieSummers See my TER Reviews 803 reads
posted
12 / 25

Some ladies can accept honest, and some cannot. I personally would rather someone be honest with me so I can plan accordingly.  I never feel hurt if a regular does not see me every visit.  (Perhaps a little disappointed if he is one of my ATF's, but never hurt).  And, I have even referred some of my ATFs to other ladies when I was not going to be in town often enough for them.  That's the nature of the business.

earthshined 806 reads
posted
13 / 25

but if she thinks you have to answer to her needs and always see her when she's in town, she is in the wrong business.

Sidney Starr See my TER Reviews 936 reads
posted
14 / 25

She should have nothing to get upset over. You guys aren't dating. Just be honest. Say with her and other providers you see you cannot afford to see her every month.  She should  be smart enough to know to keep quiet unless she wants to lose a good customer.  

  Honesty is the best policy in this case.  Also if you do see a provider and are afraid of your ATFs feelings getting hurt or whatever then just hold off on writing your reviews. Like post it the next month. I don't know. ;-) I personally don't have the time or the desire to be watching my regulars reviews to see if they are aeeing other girls. lol who does! Besides it doesn't bother me if they are. I usually assume they are.  

  Happy Holidays

Life410 12 Reviews 865 reads
posted
15 / 25

Posted By: Sidney Starr
She should have nothing to get upset over. You guys aren't dating. Just be honest. Say with her and other providers you see you cannot afford to see her every month.  She should  be smart enough to know to keep quiet unless she wants to lose a good customer.  
   
   Honesty is the best policy in this case.  Also if you do see a provider and are afraid of your ATFs feelings getting hurt or whatever then just hold off on writing your reviews. Like post it the next month. I don't know. ;-) I personally don't have the time or the desire to be watching my regulars reviews to see if they are aeeing other girls. lol who does! Besides it doesn't bother me if they are. I usually assume they are.  
   
   Happy Holidays  
   
   
People, process, and product.  

 

How can girls be mad at a regular seeing other girls when they see other men! Lol. That's just nuts and the people (girl) would need to change.  

A girl expecting a lineup of men with regulars being exclusive in giving her money makes Her a pimp....and how backwards is that!?!?

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 699 reads
posted
16 / 25

And well imo she shouldn't either. If you can't see her every single visit I mean just tell her how it is.

808transplant 45 Reviews 794 reads
posted
17 / 25

Jeez, did your parents ever teach you the word NO. I understand that this word has to be used with tact at times. However, there is nothing keeping you from saying THANKS BUT NOT THIS TRIP. I am sure she will see you when you decide to book every other trip. If not, I am sure that there will be an adequate replacement in the works.  

I hope that you have not began a relationship with her in your mind. If so, then you need to just cut ties with her all-together.

808

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 826 reads
posted
18 / 25

If you like her, and she continues to see you - and she even notifies you when she's available to see you, means you must be respectful and a good client. You pay the agreed rate, (unless she has given you a VIP rate for repeated visits, but it is still agreed.)

So it's only normal for you to want to be respectful, gentle, and honest.

Business or not, we're still all people, and like to feel respected.

Sounds to me like she is low drama if you have stuck to seeing her all this time. Just an assumption.  

I can tell you how I feel in certain scenarios when someone decides not to see me, and communicates that to me.
"Courtney, I appreciate you reaching out to me. Unfortunately, I will not be booking a date thus time around. Please let me know when you are in town next time." Straight forward, honest, gentle, and an encouragement to keep in contact. I.e. You're still a regular. But you didn't offer any unneeded information, explaining your situation, feelings, etc. Because discretion is key here. It's not necessary, which is why many people come here in the first place. And I don't mind.

I honestly don't really care for long breakup letters, let's just be friends, let's take it slower, I'm falling for you, so I need to back if for a bit, it's not you, it's me, yata yata... All of those things are patronizing and suggest that I'm not able to handle a simple "no thanks." It's almost insulting to me. But they're usually insulted when I reply, "it's ok! That's the great thing about this. You never have to explain yourself. No worries here." Some get insulted that I didn't get upset. So to me, those types of long winded, explanatory break up emails are awkward for me, because I feel like they're getting off on not needing me, or get hurt that I'm ok with them leaving. (Or that I don't need them.)

Clients come and go, certain seasons call for different priorities in everyone's life and business deals, all that jazz. As long as the guy left on a good note, (or stepped back a little,) all is great. I did my job. And I have only decent memories.

 
I do have a little secret to tell you... Giving a reason to a good sales person only gives them more wiggle room to corner you into a 'no excuse is good, because is always have a hook to bring you back.' You find yourself making even more excuses, and eventually it becomes a huge turn off. I've learned a solid no thank you works best. Otherwise, you're only helping them make a sale.  

In your case, a happy medium with a 'hello I hope you are well', then the 'no thanks this time', and if you want to see her again, an 'but please keep me posted on your next visit'. Worded how you would word it. Maybe throw a compliment on a new photo or blog, etc.

But don't beg for mercy and apologize, or explain too much, or even promise a future visit if you're not sure. To me, it's just wasted energy and - again - patronizing. Treat her like the strong woman she is, and have faith in her that she doesn't need you to coddle her.  

Good luck

Kisses

C

-- Modified on 12/7/2014 4:36:03 AM

rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 823 reads
posted
19 / 25

Posted By: Courtney.Ova
If you like her, and she continues to see you - and she even notifies you when she's available to see you, means you must be respectful and a good client. You pay the agreed rate, (unless she has given you a VIP rate for repeated visits, but it is still agreed.)  
   
 So it's only normal for you to want to be respectful, gentle, and honest.  
   
 Business or not, we're still all people, and like to feel respected.  
   
 Sounds to me like she is low drama if you have stuck to seeing her all this time. Just an assumption.  
   
 I can tell you how I feel in certain scenarios when someone decides not to see me, and communicates that to me.  
 "Courtney, I appreciate you reaching out to me. Unfortunately, I will not be booking a date thus time around. Please let me know when you are in town next time." Straight forward, honest, gentle, and an encouragement to keep in contact. I.e. You're still a regular. But you didn't offer any unneeded information, explaining your situation, feelings, etc. Because discretion is key here. It's not necessary, which is why many people come here in the first place. And I don't mind.  
   
 I honestly don't really care for long breakup letters, let's just be friends, let's take it slower, I'm falling for you, so I need to back if for a bit, it's not you, it's me, yata yata... All of those things are patronizing and suggest that I'm not able to handle a simple "no thanks." It's almost insulting to me. But they're usually insulted when I reply, "it's ok! That's the great thing about this. You never have to explain yourself. No worries here." Some get insulted that I didn't get upset. So to me, those types of long winded, explanatory break up emails are awkward for me, because I feel like they're getting off on not needing me, or get hurt that I'm ok with them leaving. (Or that I don't need them.)  
   
 Clients come and go, certain seasons call for different priorities in everyone's life and business deals, all that jazz. As long as the guy left on a good note, (or stepped back a little,) all is great. I did my job. And I have only decent memories.  
   
   
 I do have a little secret to tell you... Giving a reason to a good sales person only gives them more wiggle room to corner you into a 'no excuse is good, because is always have a hook to bring you back.' You find yourself making even more excuses, and eventually it becomes a huge turn off. I've learned a solid no thank you works best. Otherwise, you're only helping them make a sale.  
   
 In your case, a happy medium with a 'hello I hope you are well', then the 'no thanks this time', and if you want to see her again, an 'but please keep me posted on your next visit'. Worded how you would word it. Maybe throw a compliment on a new photo or blog, etc.  
   
 But don't beg for mercy and apologize, or explain too much, or even promise a future visit if you're not sure. To me, it's just wasted energy and - again - patronizing. Treat her like the strong woman she is, and have faith in her that she doesn't need you to coddle her.  
   
 Good luck  
   
 Kisses  
   
 C

-- Modified on 12/7/2014 4:36:03 AM

rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 918 reads
posted
20 / 25

True, it's very easy to get caught up in someone and forget there are many many fish in the sea so to speak.   Sometimes things do need to be dialed back and there are many reasons on both sides of the equation.  For me, I know we're atms, but when I start getting treated like one it's time to remind myself that cutting back or moving on are options.    

Posted By: 808transplant
Jeez, did your parents ever teach you the word NO. I understand that this word has to be used with tact at times. However, there is nothing keeping you from saying THANKS BUT NOT THIS TRIP. I am sure she will see you when you decide to book every other trip. If not, I am sure that there will be an adequate replacement in the works.  
   
 I hope that you have not began a relationship with her in your mind. If so, then you need to just cut ties with her all-together.  
   
 808

rembrnad0284 12 Reviews 672 reads
posted
21 / 25

There are nice ways and not nice ways to be honest.    Kind and honest are a good way to be treated and to treat someone, even those who may not be so kind or so honest with us.   There's something to be said for knowing you handle your own business like a pro.

earthshined 850 reads
posted
22 / 25

clients actually do this.

"I honestly don't really care for long breakup letters, let's just be friends, let's take it slower, I'm falling for you, so I need to back if for a bit, it's not you, it's me, yata yata... All of those things are patronizing and suggest that I'm not able to handle a simple "no thanks." It's almost insulting to me"

is it really that common?

Jacque_Jenesais See my TER Reviews 1073 reads
posted
23 / 25

long breakup letters - the it's not you, it's me bit pages long, a few a day until I block the damn email address lol.
The year or so later letter saying hi, (to my new email,) and all of a sudden I'm on an email chain with life updates to me and other girls (bcc'd) about retiring from the industry, and ... It's not us, it's him
The phone call from a regular to let me know, "I just wanted to let you know, I'm writing you a review. It is definitely inflated." Oh wait that guy wasn't trying to be nice lol. Scratch that.  
Let's just be friends - yes, the 'I think we make better friends than provider/John type' which was actually true lol. Those I've never minded when it was true
Take it slow concept, I.e. Appointments farther apart
I'm falling for you - I need to back off - yes, we all get those.  
It's not you, it's me... Random PM's when a guy posts about an ATF and it's not me, I get PM's saying 'when my thing is done with her, I'll definitely be back to see you!' I never asked, but ok no problem lol. Can't wait to see you lol.

 
Most simply never contact again, but some just try so hard not to hurt a lady's feelings, and they kind of make it too big a deal. I too have (IRL) pissed some people off trying to do that. I've also gotten severely taken advantage of by sales people back when I did that stuff. Easy to guilt into a purchase

And quite honestly, to me at least, I feel they're being a bit manipulative half the time. Other times I feel bad for the guy feeling like he has to explain to some escort that he doesn't have the funds, wants to see other people, whatever. Not my business.

-- Modified on 12/7/2014 9:52:26 AM

earthshined 817 reads
posted
24 / 25

Damn! after all that to deal with I gotta say y'all dont charge enough! ;-)

but seriously, this is a good reminder to us.  

I had only two instances where this was an issue. Once with the first legit provider I ever met. she really pushed it in terms of reliability. We really had "to talk" and it ended badly. The 2nd time was performance related. i think it is a function of frequency over time. the longer you see the same person the more  expectations change and  performance drops (at least in my experience.)
Posted By: Courtney.Ova
long breakup letters - the it's not you, it's me bit pages long, a few a day until I block the damn email address lol.  
 The year or so later letter saying hi, (to my new email,) and all of a sudden I'm on an email chain with life updates to me and other girls (bcc'd) about retiring from the industry, and ... It's not us, it's him  
 The phone call from a regular to let me know, "I just wanted to let you know, I'm writing you a review. It is definitely inflated." Oh wait that guy wasn't trying to be nice lol. Scratch that.  
 Let's just be friends - yes, the 'I think we make better friends than provider/John type' which was actually true lol. Those I've never minded when it was true  
 Take it slow concept, I.e. Appointments farther apart  
 I'm falling for you - I need to back off - yes, we all get those.  
 It's not you, it's me... Random PM's when a guy posts about an ATF and it's not me, I get PM's saying 'when my thing is done with her, I'll definitely be back to see you!' I never asked, but ok no problem lol. Can't wait to see you lol.  
   
   
 Most simply never contact again, but some just try so hard not to hurt a lady's feelings, and they kind of make it too big a deal. I too have (IRL) pissed some people off trying to do that. I've also gotten severely taken advantage of by sales people back when I did that stuff. Easy to guilt into a purchase  
   
 And quite honestly, to me at least, I feel they're being a bit manipulative half the time. Other times I feel bad for the guy feeling like he has to explain to some escort that he doesn't have the funds, wants to see other people, whatever. Not my business.

-- Modified on 12/7/2014 9:52:26 AM

Kisses_Jones See my TER Reviews 712 reads
posted
25 / 25

There isn't and shouldn't be a need to think of what to say. Just be honest and tell it like it is in a respectful manner. As long as your not handing what you have to say in a nasty deliverance she should understand and respect you as well.

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