A guy looking for just treatment
Hi, all hobbyists out there. A bad experience with an agency and want you to give some fair feedbacks. Classydcescorts, an agency I used once and call again to make an appointment. In conversation, I did tell her I am a repeated customer, a TER VIP and the name of the last provider. It's all correct and they also verify. The problem is I do not give them my real last name last time and they just found out. They not only refuse my business and charge me lying by text. I feel very uncomfortable and ask for apology and only get Lol response. I want you to tell me frankly it's my mistake or their fault.
A guy looking for just treatment
A guy looking for just treatment
I can't judge your situation, but in general don't lie about something that can be verified. If you can't use your real name, give other information that can be be checked. I think providers have to be comfortable with who you are, and they don't want to know your personal details. You should be able to supply something verifiable and not threatening to you, or else you shouldn't be playing this game. Same for providers too, such as honest photos. Name changes I have no problems with.
Then why do you ask if it was their fault?
It's not in courtroom. I am not obliged to reveal anything beyond safety purpose. I already provide enough for them to verify I am clean. The point is I do not buy their attitude of accusation. They do not want to do business? Fine. But be reasonable and polite. This is a service industry just without complaint serviceline.
'cause I am talking about the service attitude. I am perfectly fine with their refusal if they just explain their position. I can understand everybody including myself just try to protect themselves. Again the problem is attitude just like gals are all booked and you cannot be served. Ok explain it in good attitude.
First of all, they don't owe you anything. They told you why they are refusing you service, they have every right to do so, and you're lucky you got an explanation at all.
I've entertained gentlemen who that they were giving me a name that wasn't their real name. They supplied references that knew it wasn't their real name as well. They were upfront and honest from the beginning. That's the difference!
When I catch people lying I cut off contact because they now have wasted my time and they've tried to circumvent my screening process. Any additional time I spend on that person is a waste.
So they weren't "reasonable and polite". So what? Get over yourself.
"I am not obliged to reveal anything beyond safety purpose." You're right, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. But be prepared for the backlash. Quite honestly, you're lucky if you don't get blacklisted for trying to bypass their screening methods.
People who lie are usually up to no good. You should have been honest from the beginning and you would not be feeling sorry for yourself.
xox
Colette
Don't lie. If you want to play the game, you have to assume some of the risk. Assess your situation, figure out if you could survive a worst-case scenario, and then make your decision. If it's too much risk, then stay a member, read and enjoy our adveentures and wait patiently for your situation to change. All things pass.
then you should have seen a lady who did not require that as part of her or the agency's screening.
I do not think I have ever given my name to any lady before I met her. Yes, it cost me seeing some ladies I would like to have seen, but it was not worth it to me. If I lied instead, I would expect the same treatment you got.
Next time I will just say I can not give information beyond enough for reference. I am quite ok for no business. But You miss my point. My point is I have no obligation to be honest in every question the agency ask. I am with good intention to do business and connect lying with bad intention is a mistake. Treating customer politely is the rule of thumb in business, even anonymous customer. Backlash is way over a word. Should you want potential hobbyists to think this is a dangerous involvement? I do not think this is your intention. It does no good to the business.
You miss my point. Read my reply above please.
You seem to forget the point that for the middle-check-mechanism like 411 to exist is just to insure customers get verified without handling their privacy to agency. In the very beginning I already told you people I provide my reference automatically. If the whole point focus on my providing incorrect information, fine, next time how about I replying: that's none of your business. I will provide only enough information and nothing more. This you may call honesty but I think is impolite. This is exactly the response I get and I am not ok with it.
Are you seriously this upset about receiving an "LOL" text from a well-established agency? To the extent that an escort agency is a business it, more importantly, operates within a subculture. You have told us that you lied about your name and they caught you. When they told you that they caught you your response was to demand an apology. When they virtually laughed in your face you came on here to whine about it. When people told you to stop whining you continued whining.
A habituated hobbiest would never find himself in this situation. A big part of operating within this subculture is learning to brush shit off.
Brush this off and enjoy hobbying within the boundaries that you and the providers you frequent find comfortable.
Amen!
Too too many people think with the wrong head to begin with. It does no one any good to get upset because someone didn't give you an apology. get over it, move along
Everyone can agree that an apology is nice, but in the end its just words that most of the time are just BS. Seriously how many times in your life were you "Made" to apologize and you just went through the motions just because? I would rather know that someone isn't pleased with me so I can just stay away.
I know I can piss people off, so what, and if 'THEY' want an apology I will give them one with no merit behind it. What does that do? Nothing. (Disclaimer - If I pissed someone off and I had no intentions of doing so, I render a heart felt apology - but if one is not warranted, I typically say "Jibun jishin o seiko ni iku")
Sure this is considered the oldest profession and has a "Business Model" (check Escort in Wiki) but as intelligent people we should understand that this "Business" is run differently than "Target" and I would hope most agree that the customer "Service" part of this really happens "IN" the room instead of in TXT msgs or email.
Just sayin
Colette,
What's the whole point of verification? To make sure the client is an individual that can be trusted. One of the reasons for TER's existence is to get a working relationship between providers and clients. That said, too many people ask for too many details these days, and providers do not guarantee that information won't get out. I have seen many of Classy and Prime's girls, but when I posted a not-so-great review, I got chewed out and yelled at. WTF?? Aren't we supposed to tell it like it is?? When that agency started, they were decent, but went downhilll as they gained customers. The point is, they can be incredibly rude even if you didn't do much wrong (or in my case, post an honest review). As far as the last name topic goes, again, isn't the whole point to get 2 people together that are trustworthy?? If a provider really needs your last name, should the client also be privvy to your true information?? Funny how no provider in this business is named "Kim Smith". I would NEVER give my true information out to people in this business, but I do know and have seen plenty of girls that were more than happy to contact my references, figure out I was a "good guy", and have a great time. Remember, the first liar in this business is the provider, not the client. Unfortunately, now some providers want the client to disclose details. I'm pretty sure that if offered immunity, we'd all find out that clients get scammed far more than providers. But I digress, "Colette". I'm sure you're an honest provider, just not so much about your name, and I'm sure no-one has treated you poorly beacuse of it.
First of all, your issue with this agency is none of my business, not my concern, and quite honestly, irrelevant.
"...isn't the whole point to get 2 people together that are trustworthy??"
Yes. But if you lie to me about a straightforward question you no longer hold the status of "trustworthy".
"If a provider really needs your last name, should the client also be privvy [sic] to your true information??"
Why? What does he need it for? Having a client's real information is my collateral that he's not going to rape me, beat me, and murder me. Funny how when you hear of violent incidences it always comes out that the guy didn't give his real information...and lied about it. If I'm going to be in a room alone with someone who is twice my size, I'd like to know his name.
This is why I avoid people who lie about their information. Tell me up front that you use a "hobby" name, and allow me to make the decision of whether or not I want to take the risk.
"Remember, the first liar in this business is the provider, not the client."
Really? How so? Last I checked everyone knew (and accepted) that I (and other ladies) use a stage name. And when I'm asked what my real name is, I tell them that I'm not comfortable telling them.
"I'm sure you're an honest provider, just not so much about your name, and I'm sure no-one has treated you poorly beacuse of it."
I am honest about my name...Its a stage name. See...no lying here.
xox
Colette
You are dead on point!
And also its interesting to read about the ways at which you may feel vulnerable to the dark side of the hobby... us dudes seem to forget that you gilrs have some justified fears about who walks in... we need a good refresher every now and then...
Me being a rather stout guy (to your "twice my size" comment) I always worry that when I walk into the room the provider will be scared of me. Reading this confirms whats going on in my head during that uneasiness I get from the first visit, first 10min of the encounter. Thankfully I am almost always welcome back (the 2 times I haven't been welcome back is when I have been B/S on and walked out.... BTW didn't expect and apology, I wouldn't answer the call anyway)
Also after reading your counter points I don't understand why oh why I haven't run to your bedside, wow you got some fire! smokin hot!
" problem is I do not give them my real last name last time and they just found out."
I have never given a provider my real name or my real occupation. I have used Classy DC many times.
How did they discover you used a fake name?