And you can verify that I wouldn't rape/rob/kill you by checking with my references associated with my online persona. You really don't need to know what my real name is.
Good luck with that. After what happened to Classy and DMVindys, no one with decent jobs and right mind will give out REAL NAME and WORK INFO anymore. Only losers with no reputable jobs or insane dudes would do that. Just warning y'all before y'all go broke!
However, according to a credible source, some of the popular ladies seem to be overwhelmed with new requests that they can actually afford to be much more picky and still get away with it.
I see nothing wrong with ladies doing what they can to protect themselves if they can afford to do so.
Ladies have the right to put their safety as a top priority just the same as us hobbyists do what we can.
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reference always seems to work for me. One of the agency in the past had one of my personal info, not my job info, and they left temporarily. However, they are back now. I was thinking about booking with them again, but I have to wait it out and see where things progress for them. I don't just jump in, and gotta be caution of my personal info.
To answer your question, some agencies do require way too much information. Those are the types of agencies I will avoid. Took me way too long to get where I am at, and I'm definitely not trying to have one of my supervisors scrutinizing my lifestyle.
I haven't met any agency that accepts TER info, but the majority of them will accept provider reference, and that always seem to work well for me. I try not to give out my real name, but some agencies do need it, which kinda sucks.
As for indy providers, they gotta do what makes them feel comfortable. Even though you have a P411 account with a few approvals, that doesn't necessary mean you are a safe client to be with. Providers will often times need provider reference, which will assure them that you are okay. As for giving them my work information, nope, no way, never done it. As with the agencies, I just give them provider reference, and that seems to work for them.
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.....other, and all gentlemen provide me with their true identity, and place of employment. Gentlemen always worry about what they have to lose; well, it works both ways. If I am outed/arrested, I would lose this profession, my other profession, my incall location, etc. I would also have to retain counsel, which is not cheap. A gentleman's risk is not greater than mine: equal to, maybe, but not greater.
To the gentlemen that do not provide their true identity, what do you give the ladies, when they ask for id?
Hugs and Kisses,
Kelly
There are plenty of ladies, almost most of them..who do not ID. As long as the lady knows that I am safe, we are good to go.
If a lady asks for an ID, I will just walk away.
Easy enough, Beauty with....whatever...
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I had a hobbyist tell me that he'd show me his ID when we met. My response to him was, what good will it do if you're already in the room with me? I'm going to verify that you're not an axe murderer and will hold up your end of the deal before we met.
Once I'm satisfied you won't try to rob/rape/kill me, I couldn't care less what your full name is... I'm not telling you my real name, so why should you tell me yours?
But maybe that's just me ![]()
If a lady asks for an ID, I will just walk away.
Easy enough, Beauty with....whatever...
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And you can verify that I wouldn't rape/rob/kill you by checking with my references associated with my online persona. You really don't need to know what my real name is.
I understand the ladies' concern for safety and knowing the guys' true identity, especially when they do outcalls to residences. However, safety and knowing just who the heck you're really with cuts both ways. I agree with you that perhaps we guys need to query them on THEIR true identity, as well, so we might Google/check them out ahead of time, time permitting. I recently merely Googled (no hacking involved) a lady I was regularly seeing and who had shared her real name with me. Wow, was I surprised! She didn't have any arrests or convictions for prostitution or for smoking a bit of weed, as one might perhaps naturally expect. Instead, she had a rap sheet the length of your arm with numerous felony and misdemeanor convictions, as well as having some severe mental illness issues. I worried about getting a splitting headache while lying next to her in post-coital bliss; however, I didn't see any arrests or convictions for axe murderer so I continued to see her a few more times. She was a real sweet girl and had accepted Jesus in her alter ego/real life...REALLY! And the irony is that she was the first provider I had ever given my real name, address and non-hobby phone number to (...before I had spent the time and a little money to check her out). So you never know who you're meeting with, and that's true for both the ladies/providers as well as for us guys/hobbyists. The truth, I believe, is that these so-called verification sites really don't provide a serious level of safety but are more than glad to take your money.
No problem giving a reputable provider my real identity, but agencies scare the crap out of me. That gets into RICO charges and all kinds of trumped up federal crap. My first hobby event was with an agency and I have not used one since but I have been considering. I am looking for two or three upscale providers and then forgetting the rest, just knowing that I have a few that I click with who I trust. I would never give a women on back page my real info, for example. But the established providers here on TER? Just not a problem. Work info is something way different though, no way.
I have given my work information to ladies before, nothing more than a company name, phone number, and title. I gave this information to highly reviewed and well established provider's on TER. She called asked for me by name and just quickly verified me. Painless really, like a dental assistant calling to make sure your appointment is still good. Bottom line to me is if the provider is comfortable then it is more likely that she will be comfortable in giving you a once in a lifetime experience. I know that's how it was for me anyways. ![]()
When I was a newbie I gave my work info to the first two providers I saw, since I had no references. Since then, I've been able to use references with all providers, except for one who wanted some work info as well. I doubt I would provide that information again, as provider references should be enough to see most providers.
There can be a serious tire kickers who either routinely makes up personae, changes emails, or uses legitimate TER handles as their own.
How can you really know the TER handle someone gives you is really theirs? That lies the problem and is the reason why most reputable companions would never just be okay with accepting TER as screening.
The more screening a companion requires, the less likely you will have to worry that the next TER handle that she will accept turns out to be LE.
The companion that takes her business seriously will not only think of her own safety, but also that of her clients.
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