Not only does a preference for a macho man sound ridiculous for a professional but making a conclusion based on an email?
After seeing Macbelvedere's very positive post, contacted Rachael & set up appt for 2 hrs later, midday. Arrived on time & called for final directions, no ans, left msg. After 5 mins called again, no ans, left msg. After 5 mins called again, she answered, claimed she didn't get prev. calls, gave me address & final dirs. which turned out to be phony. Did not take or return my final call to clarify the address & dirs. Never had anythng like this happen before - but 1st & last time I call a CL girl.
In my own defence..... I was put off by you... I am sorry about how i handled it however I am sorry....
Ladies if you are uncomfortable with us, please let us know ahead of time; rather than wasting our time with a no-show.
well if i had had a problem before hand i wouldve canceled ahead of time but it was the feeling i got when he called and was close that freaked me out and yesi agree i couldve handled it better and for that i am sorry but i will know better in the future....
Rachael, nice of you to leave a message. I had a woman not show up because she liked masculine men and because of my emails, she probably didn't think I was mr macho. Sometimes the chemistry doesn't work I think. You may want to screen your potential clients for things you like or don't like before you send someone on a wild goose-chase. Maybe ask clients to tell more about their background and call and talk a little bit. You maybe more sensitive than others to personality chemistry. But hey, you're only 20 and you admitted to the mistake. But the guys email was kind if you send him all over and ultimately to a wrong address. Can you imagine if he knocked on the door and woman who looks like you answered?
If you look good (stud type) they will do everything they can to have you be a repeat customer. Funny how money does not guarantee a meeting. I highly recommend that guys lift weight 3 times a week and do some cardo. Of course the problem you might run into being in shape is that some providers can't last more than 2 hours for fun.
wellactualy thats not entirely true i have no opinion or preferance on apperance at all all i care about is that a client treats me with respect and is a gentleman if they are i have no problem seeing them again in fact i certianly encourage them to call me again however if i have a bad experiance with someone i dont ask them to come back but i will still take their call maybe they were having an off day and will hae a better meeting the second time like mac said i am just starting in the buisness but i do have life experiance those of you whom ive met with thus far can tell you that and my instincts havent led me wrong yet so i go by them....but all i ask is that you are a gentleman and i have no prefrence about looks or build or any of that i may be young in age but i've seen and done a lot in this life.....
Not only does a preference for a macho man sound ridiculous for a professional but making a conclusion based on an email?
At the beginning I aked her a lot of questions, mainly about STDs and does she get checked for some things, told her I was more cautious than the majority and had just started. She exchanges some emails with me and I told her I'd give her a call when I got to the city. I called and talked with her briefly and she told me to call back at a time to confirm. I called several times but she never answered. On her website she had something that she liked non wimpy men. I was thinking that she might have thought that I was whimpy during the emails and I don't have one of those deep voices. I assume that I wasn't what she looking for in a client. She had reviews after me, so she didn't stop during the time. Not a problem at all though. I think her name was Lacey of las vegas.
I had something very similar happen to me this week. I called in advance for an appointment, called the day of and nothing. No answer, no call, no nothing. I won't try again.
I have had the problem with 2 providers in the DC area. I had actually cleared the reference checks and confirmed the appointment. The provider decided to go outside to enjoy the sunlight instead. I found out later that she having some personal issues with another client.
The other provider in question overbooked and forgot about the appointment.
Always have a backup plan, sort of hard to do if you depend on incall all the time.
Good point, overbooking and girls blowing off sessions are rampant in the industry. I have had some very well-known providers with excellent reputations totally flake on me (including a certain lovely Canadian lass who shall remain nameless *wink*).
I am very sorry to see something like this transpire. I have a few thoughts.
First, my two experiences with her were both damn near perfect. She was straightforward, honest, sweet, eager to please, few restrictions, and very discreet about the financial transaction.
One thing I did not mention before... the first time I went to see her, I had to cancel on her literally minutes before the session started. I felt bad, so I gave her $50 for her trouble. She was cool about it, and when I came to see her again, she only asked for $150, since I had given her $50 a few nights before. She didn't have to do that and I didn't expect it. I thought it was a classy act.
Second, she is just starting out in the biz, and she is learning the ropes. From her response above, I believe she has learned a lesson here in what not to do if you want to be successful. I think she still has lessons to learn, but if she takes this to heart, she will be very successful because she is very good at what she does when you get her in the sack.
Lastly, and this is for the guys... Yes, you are the customer, and you want to get great customer service, and you deserve it because you are paying your hard-earned money for a service. But that does not mean you should not be on your best behavior when you contact a provider. She says she was "put off" by this guy for some reason. She decided not to see him for this reason. She handled the situation wrong, and I don't excuse that. But something he did put her off. So the hint to guys is, be pleasant, courteous, forthright in all your dealings with a provider you are meeting for the first time. If you make her comfortable with you, she will respond in kind, and provide a great experience for you. When people say YMMV, I think it has more to do with us than with the provider.
I don't know cptjack1812, and I am not implying anything about him, but these girls have to deal with a lot of jerks in this biz, and you do not want to give them any reason to believe you are one of those jerks. I know from experience. I said the wrong thing to a certain well known "sexy curvy" provider who posts to this board and she cancelled our date and would not respond to any email I sent, even to apologize and explain the misunderstanding.
I am in contact with Rachael, I intend to see her again, and I will make the points I have made here clear to her. Being in good stead with the TER community is good for her business, and I think she ultimately understands that. Cut her some slack for early mistakes.
Mac
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Their is two-sides to each story.. I hope they can work something out.
The only thing that bothers me is that someone felt like that was a discrepency in the time agreed to (30 v. 60 min) Not good. Rachel, I will PM you.
"someone felt like that was a discrepency in the time agreed to (30 v. 60 min)"
He still gave her a great review. Both my sessions exceeded the full hour. Again, it's all about good, honest communication. Both these instances are ultimately communication breakdowns in my opinion. And communication is a two-way street, so she can't be completely at fault.
I spoke to Rachael, and she said she got spooked that cptjack1812 might have been LE by the way he was acting.
sorry to say but this happen to me couple weeks ago.
same thing happened to me about 2 weeks ago. set up an appt, got to the first location but she never picked up the phone again.
I love these providers who fall all over themselves apologizing after the fact for blown appointments, missed calls, attitudes and what-not. They have no problem actually blowing us off but after it hits the posts, they are so-so sorry. Basically, guys, follow the well-known and well-reviewed providers and avoid the "rookie" mistakes. These are the kinds of providers who are a magnet for trouble, many of them are probably armed, the many more work in cahoots with all the scam artists (the "Hall Monitors," etc). Listen, if I want to get into trouble, I'll find it. I don't need these ladies when there are so many other decent providers out there.
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Unlike some who find the easy way out of confrontation by hiding behind an alias - I think they are called cowards, spineless and certainly the only point I take when one comes forward it to call them by their real name - Worthless Coward... Go back under whatever rock you crawled out from or step up and show your face...
Oh yea - that's right, you have...
Well, I wasn't even defending her as much as expressing how I love the use of alias.... So tell me that wasn't you...
....especially the ones who advertise themselves every 2 hrs. Desperation & Professionalism don't work together.
your right skip the ones who post every 5 minutes. But all Dcbeauties post on CL. And when you see someone visiting you like on eros check CL while they are hear. If business is slow that day you might catch a special
I think sometimes providers overbook because they expect a certain number of cancellations and/or no-shows by clients. An early mistake I think a lot of providers make is thinking they can cram a bunch of sessions into a day. I would suggest providers go for quality and not quantity, and allot at least 2 hours for every one hour session. Not so the guy can actually stay for 2 hours, but just to allow for things like late arrival of a date, early arrival of your next date, losing track of time in a session, cleaning up in between.
Also, I try to call the day before a session (or at least very early the same day) and pin down an exact time. I have learned that providers who will not schedule in advance are the most likely to no-show or cancel. Whenever a provider says, just call me an hour before you want to see me, I just forget about seeing her. Both my sessions with Rachael were scheduled the day before the session. If you call last minute, you should probably consider yourself on "standby", meaning the provider thinks she can slot you in if things work out. I do feel for guys who can only schedule sessions last minute, as I think they must deal with more no-shows and cancellations than those of us who make dates further in advance.
I may have been personally responsible for 2 of Rachael's no-shows, because both my sessions with her ran long, and perhaps into someone else's session time. She will not answer her phone during a session, which is a positive behavior in my opinion. In both cases, her phone was muted, but we could hear it vibrate several times as we were engaged. So she very likely was missing other client's calls to provide me with her full time and attention. In both cases, I felt like I abused her time, and I told her I would be more cognizant of our session times in the future. I have also made the point to her about being more careful in her scheduling.
Lastly, my experience tells me providers probably deal with way more client no-shows and cancellations than clients deal with provider no-shows and cancellations. After all, providers have a financial incentive to see us, and very few providers are rich enough to turn away business...
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for all those who came out saying she doesn't return calls...
Well shame on you - LOL... You owe her big time... And a few beers for those guys who got bumped because of you - cya at the next happy hour...