It sounds like you have just been very fortunate to find several ladies that you have a good rapport with.
In general, "you get what you pay for". If you pay for an hour, they are perfectly within their rights at 55 minutes to say "I had a nice time, hope to see you again soon." Which would be your cue to get dressed and exit gracefully. On the other hand, if they are enjoying your company and simply having fun "hanging out", that completely up to them. Generally the "phrase that pays" from the lady would be something like "our time is almost up, I am not busy this afternoon (evening, night) if you would like to extend." That would be your cue to open your wallet. If they are continuing to see you and giving you off the clock (OTC) time I would count your lucky stars. The key is to not push it and not expect it, just enjoy it when it happens and treat those ladies like gold.
I have had several experiences where I see a provider for a half session to have light conversation roll into the main course then to completion. WE lay and chat and find very good conversation. Often times it has rolled into considerable time like 2.5 hours. Now is the girl expecting the hr rate? Or is the session for the actual act only when the provider continues the conversation?
Personally I feel that if the original appointment was for a half or even an hour and the provider continues the conversation long beyond, then it shouldn't be expected from me to pay more. Especially when the actual act was completed well within the allotted time. I must be correct for the most part because they still continue to see me and seem to still enjoy my company.
The reason I ask is because this happened once where we were finished with the physical part in about 20 mins and she continued to talk for another 25 mins. I paid for the half and she called me an hour or 2 later and questioned how much I paid. I simply said I didn't watch the clock but thought I was paying for a half session. Have not seen that provider again. I did offer to pay the difference but she declined
I always ask how long we are getting together for. You are really paying for my time, nothing else
Anything else that occurs is between 2 consenting adults! Key thing for an appointment to go well, for both parties, is communication, don't you think?
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER, ANGELINA!!! Besides, who spends a half hour anymore, really?
Anything else that occurs is between 2 consenting adults! Key thing for an appointment to go well, for both parties, is communication, don't you think?that you are mostly seeing BackPage "hotties". That's a hottie with quotation marks - BTW..
Most of the BP girls, who work exclusively through BP, schedule back to back to back appointments. They don't have much business acumen or understanding of customer service. They are in it to make the quickest possible buck.
Now, them asking you to pay for the remaining half an hour, would have been bad customer service, if you were paying 400-500/hr for appointment. But with BP gals, you are not going to get much. You get what you pay for.
I would go out on the limb and advice you to upgrade your hobbying to independents who are more focused on providing a superior customer service, than just the NEXT John, because from your post it does seem like superior customer service is what you are looking for. Yes, it will cost you a little more, but it would be money well spent.
TER Search is your friend.
Take your clothes, get the fun in, then talk afterwords.
Get the fun in, and Get the fuck out.. LMAO 
It sounds like you have just been very fortunate to find several ladies that you have a good rapport with.
In general, "you get what you pay for". If you pay for an hour, they are perfectly within their rights at 55 minutes to say "I had a nice time, hope to see you again soon." Which would be your cue to get dressed and exit gracefully. On the other hand, if they are enjoying your company and simply having fun "hanging out", that completely up to them. Generally the "phrase that pays" from the lady would be something like "our time is almost up, I am not busy this afternoon (evening, night) if you would like to extend." That would be your cue to open your wallet.
If they are continuing to see you and giving you off the clock (OTC) time I would count your lucky stars. The key is to not push it and not expect it, just enjoy it when it happens and treat those ladies like gold.
I agree with Joe here. The provider is the professional and should be able to manage time effectively. The client should not be expected to do this themselves, although the client should be sensitive to the time. As was said, a professional provider will gracefully manage the client to assure the time is well used. If the provider wishes to continue on their own that is up to them. Should this happen, it is the provider making the decision to continue beyond time, not the client. If this is an issue for the provider, as it well may be, the provider should so indicate either by reminding the client that time is up or by suggesting an extension as said earlier.
No one should be expecting "free time" nor should the provider presume that extended conversation (more than a few minutes) be necessarily paid for, unless that conversation falls within the previously agreed upon time. Of course this will vary with clients and providers. I have great relationships with certain providers who are quite flexible with their time. However I would never expect that flexibility with a provider I had just met
like that.
If I have an hour appointment at 5pm and we're "done" at 5:50pm and we keep talking until 6:15 I dont expect to pay her for the extra time. She is the one who should check the time since she knows her schedule and we don't. It's not cool for her to extend the date and expect extra payment without prior discussion.
Where in the world do these providers come from? from a half hour to 2.5 hours?
Isn't that why you make an appointment for a specific time???
Personally I feel that if the original appointment was for a half or even an hour and the provider continues the conversation long beyond, then it shouldn't be expected from me to pay more. Especially when the actual act was completed well within the allotted time. I must be correct for the most part because they still continue to see me and seem to still enjoy my company.
The reason I ask is because this happened once where we were finished with the physical part in about 20 mins and she continued to talk for another 25 mins. I paid for the half and she called me an hour or 2 later and questioned how much I paid. I simply said I didn't watch the clock but thought I was paying for a half session. Have not seen that provider again. I did offer to pay the difference but she declined
lady needs me to get out of her life she will indicate thus. I have many times been with a lady & we had a good vibe going on & when I finally left I realized I'd been there 20 minutes or 1/2 hour over our scheduled time. I've always considered that if the lady didn't say anything then I had no obligation to add compensation for her time. I have one or two regulars ladies with whom I know that most of our engagements are open-ended and we'll talk and sip wine for a good while after the scheduled time and neither of us expect there's any additional compensation expected. With new ladies, I try to be conscious of the time and will say 'How much time do we have left' (if I have my glasses off I can't necessarily see the clock). If she says 'Oh maybe 10 minutes' I'll begin to find my clothes & shoes & stuff; if she says 'Never mind' or words to that effect (like don't worry about it) I figure she isn't pressed for time and would like to continue our encounter/conversation. I've only had a problem with this once, when we kept talking after the event & ended up spending about 2 1/4 hours when we'd scheduled 1 1/2 and the lady wanted more compensation; even though I pointed out that we'd booked 1 1/2 hours and that most of our time out of the actual acts consisted of her talking and she never mentioned the time or hinted that I should leave, she was adamant that I owed her. So I eventually offered up an additional fee, even though I still felt I was in the right, just didn't want any more hassle. But I stick to my principle, if I've agreed to a fixed time and the provider never mentions the time or hints I need to leave or our time is up then it's on her. She's managing her time, I'm not. But I am much more aware of the time than I was before.
Unless you are with a streetwalker or a low-end BP lady, you are paying for her time and not just a menu choice. If she is with you, even just talking, she can't be with someone else or doing something else.
A half-hour date stretching into 2.5 hours seems extreme, but that is up to the two of you. I have had long (e.g., a 3 hour dinner date) appointments run much longer than either of us had planned. When that happens, I try to slip something more into the envelope when she isn't looking if I still have the envelope or it is in the open. In your case, if she is okay with the amount and she is willing to repeat, then I guess that you two are friends, too. If not, I don't think that she is being unreasonable if your half-hour date became a one hour date and she expects more. She may have thought that you were tacitly extending the date to the next time period and didn't want to break the mood by bringing up money.
I would pay her the difference anyway if I were you. If you felt that the chemistry was good between you, she will appreciate it and remember you for it. If you have a regular who sees you for 2.0 hours for a 0.5 hour rate, I think that you should plan to give her something more than her regular half-hour rate. It is really awkward (not to mention risky) to bring up money on either side, so just because she doesn't ask doesn't mean that she isn't at least hoping that you will leave something more.
I think several of the responders missed the OP point. Some of the ladies he has been seeing have been generous with OTC time and he is asking what the protocol is for compensating them.
The simple answer is that if the provider lets the date run long and does not ask for anything then it is on her time (OTC).
In the OP's case, they continue to see him, so they are either desperate and doing whatever they have to keep a repeat client, or they are genuinely having a nice time. Either way, he is not obligated to pay more.
Why that particular provider thought about, the compensation for her time in hindsight?
As much as it is her "job" to lay down the expectations I think you should have the common courtesy to tip her.
Yes she may enjoy your company and obviously the time goes with company you enjoy.. BUT to go from .5 and end with over 2 hours of company by all standards you should have tipped her.
I'm very chatty and I do go over time with some of my favorites. I too have had this to happen but the guys have tipped me very generously for having the ability to stay without me looking over my shoulder at my clock. With that said because you have ones who think like a couple of you as- her loss, not about the niceness of the gesture- just lets say, I get you on your way! Lesson learned!!!
do you wanna let out of the box?
isn't it easier to just stick to the time and be done with it?
Sure it is, but that wasn't the question nor part of the statement. Or did you just skip the entire
thread to entertain yourself?
thread to entertain yourself?
So if I left a donation for a hour of a providers time and only stay for 45 minutes can I get I get a refund for the other 15 minutes.
I've had a provider say hey Boardwalk Empire is coming on HBO. I said yeah I love that guess I'm going to have to watch it on on demand. She invited me to stay and watch with her. We chatted and joked. It was an extra hour after our hour appointment. But it was her choice to not have me leave. She knew our time was up. She knew there was no more money coming, she just enjoyed the company. She has seen me again on several other occasions and would see me again if I called her next time she is in DC
Sometimes, it can be awkward for us to mention extending. I would suggest doing something similar to a girl who does an outcall; as the time comes up, stand up and get ready to go. If she really does want you to stay, she'll ask. If she doesn't, she won't. I've had several people do that, and it was a much more comfortable way for me to either ask them to stay or ask if they would like to continue their date.
If you just kind of end up hanging out, without much being said about it, it's a little harder to say what each person was expecting, so I would at least tip if you run more than 10 or 15 over, just to stay on the safe side. If she wanted to hang out, then she'll like you even more. If she couldn't figure out how to ask about extending, it'll be a huge relief and she'll be much more likely to remember you as a gentleman than someone who tries to push for time. That may not be what you're doing, but there are enough out there that do that she may think so.
...since she's the one that's not supposed to be the clockwatcher you keep better track of the time and leave when you see the date has went considerably over the time you were supposed to have paid for.
I dressed and prepared to leave but they kept on with the conversation while I made it clear that I was leaving. I felt like they were lonely. It wasn't like we continued to have sex the whole while. It's hard to explain the scenario. I will also tip extra if I haven't paid in advance.
"Baby I have to go now."
I usually book multiple hour appointments so I don't run into this problem. If is is with a provider I have never seen a before it is a 1 hour appointment. After 10 minutes from the first pop she will see a boner and get the message that it is time to go for a 2nd round. Excessive talkers sometimes talk so much that I am not interested in a 2nd round. Hint, pick a provider with a smile on her face in the ad. I find those are the ones who are real sex kittens, that can't get enough.
Let me ask this. When having a conversation outside of a P4P scenario, do you find yourself to keep on talking after you have excused yourself, or the other party has done the same?
I ask because I have some friends who can't stop talking no matter what. I'll cut the conversation short, and excuse myself, but they just keep talking. Even when they say, I've got to get going. They just keep talking.
Even though I find it to be rude, I find myself having to just walk away. If not we would be there
all day. Talking about nothing.
In a session I take off my watch and my glasses, so I can't tell time. She's the service provider, I expect her to keep track of time.
If it was not pre-arranged, you didn't even have to pay for the extra time even if she went out to dinner with you after the session, but it would be nice to leave a tip.
Where is the grey area? If we tell a client "Hey our time is up," it will reflect in a review somewhere. But if we say nothing, then we get the ones who like to stay way past their time.
......then we get told it's our responsibility to keep track of the time (as to not be taken advantage of). Oh boy.
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Where is the grey area? If we tell a client "Hey our time is up," it will reflect in a review somewhere. But if we say nothing, then we get the ones who like to stay way past their time.
but thread starters is saying he stayed an extra 2hrs....come on that's not clock watching, that's being real. "Dude ya time was up 90mins ago" can't be that hard to say, haha. Hell, let me know...i might got somewhere else to be and might be drunk off the lovin' and lost track of time, lol. if i'm staying longer than 15minutes extra i'm assuming she wants to hangout or what-have-you as a non professional.
clock watching is on the dot telling me the sand will run out of the hour glass in 20seconds. 5-15min grace period is sufficient depending on the situation. If the activities end early being on the dot is fine.
I do occasionally characterize a lady as rushing me. . . when she rushes me.
I don't need to be told when the time is up. If the lady is dressed, talking to me standing up, or asks if I need to take a shower, or all of the above, while my penis is still hanging out, I know that time is up.
You should never have to do that. The client needs to know the time. At 55 minutes he needs to be putting on his pants. Assume nothing except that the time is up wen it is up.
Hands
when you start getting dressed.
I've had providers say they have another appointment next.maybe true maybe not but not a problem.you could always use that as a hint
then I'm unlikely to feel obliged to compensate you for additional time that we didn't overtly agree to. There are a lot of ways to hint that the time is up; 'You need a shower before you leave?' is a classic, any guy that doesn't get that is a zombie, or 'I've got to take a shower' or 'I need to go get some lunch.' But you know, if we're having a great conversation, I've got both my watch & my glasses off so looking around the room to determine the time isn't a slam dunk, if the provider doesn't give a hint that time is up I don't see how I should feel obligated to pay for more time. A tip yes, and if there is sexual activity going on in the extra time then surely pay for the extra time, but if we're just having a great conversation & no one mentions the time then I do not feel obligated.
Personally I feel that if the original appointment was for a half or even an hour and the provider continues the conversation long beyond, then it shouldn't be expected from me to pay more. Especially when the actual act was completed well within the allotted time. I must be correct for the most part because they still continue to see me and seem to still enjoy my company.
The reason I ask is because this happened once where we were finished with the physical part in about 20 mins and she continued to talk for another 25 mins. I paid for the half and she called me an hour or 2 later and questioned how much I paid. I simply said I didn't watch the clock but thought I was paying for a half session. Have not seen that provider again. I did offer to pay the difference but she declined
to my hotel room. I plan activities for the time allotted. But it is up to the lady to leave, either she is done, or has something else to do. More times than not, the lady stays longer. But that is up to her. A couple of times they have turned into overnights, although I haven't taken advantage of them the next morning.
BTW, I agree with Curly W - who they hell are you seeing for only 30 min? Need to upgrade to the ladies here on TER and book plenty of time.
Personally I feel that if the original appointment was for a half or even an hour and the provider continues the conversation long beyond, then it shouldn't be expected from me to pay more. Especially when the actual act was completed well within the allotted time. I must be correct for the most part because they still continue to see me and seem to still enjoy my company.
The reason I ask is because this happened once where we were finished with the physical part in about 20 mins and she continued to talk for another 25 mins. I paid for the half and she called me an hour or 2 later and questioned how much I paid. I simply said I didn't watch the clock but thought I was paying for a half session. Have not seen that provider again. I did offer to pay the difference but she declined
Do you go back to McDonalds when they put something extra in ya bag? Nope! cause a lot of times they forget things and it all evens out at the end.
Part of being a professional is being aware of the service you are providing. besides...that's good customer relations so you come back.
If i'm at a strip club and a girl is sitting on my lap in the main area and grinding a little....i'm not paying for that! it's part of selling me into getting a lapdance or hanging out after lapdances in which she wants to assure I comeback in the future. Girls do give a little so you keep coming back to thank you for being a good customer.....don't sweat it
I vote to keep doing nothing or tip.
- I think the OP may simply have a great rapport with these ladies, and is interested in them as individuals. Some people are just like that.
- He said in passing 'maybe they were lonely'. Likely true. And that has been reported by researchers who study providers. So good for him for hanging out.
- people complaining about backpage girls should calm down. It works for him. He has strikeouts, but also many gems
Unless you picked up someone off the street, or one of your friends pimped girls....you are not paying for ***ANY specific act (s)*** Am I the only one completely shocked by your post? It doesn't matter if you spend 15 minutes together or 3 hours! You arranged for a specific amount of ***time***, and whether you shared snacks and talked, or got very intimate you didn't pay for WHAT YOU GOT OR DIDN'T GET. Whether you stay the agreed amount of time, or leave early...you pay for the *agreed upon time*. UNLESS, you stay over...then you are paying for that *extra* time.
Also, she is not a machine and shouldn't be expected to not come up for air, or have any time to get to know you. It amazes me that someone in 2013 cannot differentiate between a brothel hooker or street walker and a Companion. Provider or Escort. They are *not* all the same thing...there are different levels of service, however if you hire someone in advance for a *set* amount of time, that is what it is...Also, if you are enjoying each others company and the time has gone over considerably you are responsible for compensation of that time. Unless she is closely booked and must end your time, or just wants to.. it is not up to her to tell you that it's time to go. She is serving you, and if you're lost in her then it is your responsibility to gracefully exit if you are unable/not willing to compensate her for *her* extra time.
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I schedule a certain amount of time with a lady. She usually set the tempo of our engagement. I've had times when I've left a few moments before the hour I've had times where I've stayed a few minutes over. I've had providers ask if I was hungry and wanted to go get something to eat. I was a gentleman and paid for there dinner. I didn't pay for her time. Wasn't my idea. I didn't invite her. I wouldn't have gone for dinner if she wouldn't have brought it up. I've only had this happen since I've been hobbling in the DC/Baltimore area and it has happened on several occasion over the last 3.5 years. I come on a date with a budgeted amount of money and I don't plan to go over.
If you are seeing a girl for 30 minutes and stay 2 hours you are wrong and you know it. You took care of what you planned for in the 30 minutes you should have been out the door by 35!
I am just curious about your statement "It amazes me that someone in 2013 cannot differentiate between a brothel hooker or street walker and a companion".
I have been hobbying for a long time(embarrassed to say 20 years lol) and am curious what is the difference in service? Bottom line no matter if it is a porn star or the above you mentioned isn't it sex for money?
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No..not necessarily. There have been several times where gentleman are widows and do not have intimate relations, more then massage, hottub cuddling in bathing suits and never getting fully un dressed. Or those who just like to watch. Also, plenty of friends like to spend the whole time pleasing me...my point is no, not every lady is providing the same service. Also there are huge differences between intimacy and quick acts, and it isn't all either of you are getting.