Civie Dates

So you scored, or so you thought right? The woman you have been dating gives you your free sex card. You have invested some corniness, time, and mental moments you will never get back to get here. Its finally time. How was it? Not what you expected?

Everything from physical appearance to grooming can be NOT what you expected or, albeit rare, you are pleasantly surprised. If you are surprised then you have to wonder how she got so good. How do you handle it? Roll with what you got because its free sex? Well nothing is free. Note the investment you made to get this far.  

Examples:
Grooming: How do you tell that special someone to trim the forest without risking all it took to get this far? Still, if you dont say something you are stuck with it. Ahhh, love is blind right?

Performance: Did she just lay there because in reality she is an above average hot princess and doesnt have to perform when it comes to this? Or maybe she never learned and no one before you had the heart to tell her. Now you are in a conundrum...see next:

Your performance: Careful here, if you rock her world she is going to want to know afterward where you learned that. Do you start out reserved and hold back until you can invest some more mental anguish and time to get to the next time and then start to introduce what you know?

See where I am going with this? Its a vicous cycle of guaranteed disappointment.

Megan DeVille

You spend hours sifting through reviews, making phone calls only to get voice mail or "voicemail is full" messages.  You finally 'score' and get an appointment - and end up waiting in a parking lot for half an hour as you get a text message saying "honey, just finishing lunch, give me five minutes" to then get no further response.

Call-up a back-up and fortunately able to get an appointment.  You go up the elevator in high anticipation of the 20 year old hot latina and find a late 30s early 40s post baby provider.  You figure good enough and ask for an hour and pop in 20 minutes then shown the door because your time's up or you only get one pop and you're done despite the time agreed.

Better yet, you score the super hot 19 year old spinner and has the conversational skills of a sloth and the skills to match.  A pine board is more active and responsive than this hottie.

You figure you want an older more experienced provider so do an outcall to your hotel, only to find you're only getting an extended conversation because what the heck did you expect?

....worst of all, SURPRISE!  Police sting

Ok, so it's the anticipation vs reality.  But, when it comes right down to it, I've had GFs that have surprised, delighted and disappointed and bored.  If their attitude is such that they can't talk about performance or grooming, OK.  Then you have to make a decision about how long you'll stick around.  I'll stick around for the woman I can be honest with.  The only way to make expectations realistic is to communicate.

It all depends on how the conversation is approached.  But why not talk to someone about their forest?  Especially when they see you having to rid yourself of unwanted protein.  And what about differing levels of experience?  What does she want?  What do you want?  

I thank my lovers for the good and bad because I learned something from each.  They made me the man I am today and helped me rid myself of the boy.  But, personally, I am past the point of having to play the mental games.  I'll be respectful, considerate, and thoughtful, but I'll still bring up suggestions.

As for that trophy hottie that thinks all she needs is her looks...  Meh.  Too many good looking women out there that are great in bed...  Of all ages.  Even the not so good looking women with just that way around a man.  All kinds of combinations that mean that you don't have to put up with immaturity and selfishness.

If she is lame, she's lame! If she rocks my world and shows me the sun moon and stars, well luck me.  

It can happen with a girlfriend or a provider.

I don't care how many other men a potential GF has been with prior to me. It's all about what she does when she is with me. If its just her and I, cool. If its gangbangs, swingers clubs, and going to Hendoism II, even better.

Same with a provider. I won't see a provider with less than five reviews just like I won't sleep with a girl who has been with less than five guys. After that the more experience the better!

I just started civie dating and must say yes you ladies have set the bar high.  But I look at it this way.  My civi date I go out to movies, dinner, and ect.  I dont expect "desert" after dinner.  But if it happens that would be great.  A successful relationship has to have good communication, so if the performance and grooming are a issue then talk about it.  I would want her to do the same.  How you bring it up is the tricky part.  And if all fails, you still got your ATF to make it all better.

What if your civie and ATF is the same woman?  

...MD's posts/observations/questions entertaining and wispy. Which, by the way, is the reason I partake in this hobby. Have a great day!