I have seen a couple of ads with GFE and GFE Plus listed. I know what GFE means to me. But have no clue what plus might be and I can't imagine someone advertising BB insertion.

Greek....

GFE PLUS supposedly means CIM.

PSE often means Greek

...but it should not be automatically assumed. Best thing to do is ask the lady what she means by it when you are in room with her.

Just when you think you have a handle on terms, someone invents another one to make things more complicated or interpretive.

I've watched what I call "term creep" happen over the last 15 years in multiple markets.
Originally GFE meant kissing, then the term crept into other meanings to where it is today.

Well... Girl Friend Experience plus could mean you pay her and then she says "not tonight I have a headache " ? Either that or she could complain her "clock is ticking" and when are we going to get married ?

But seriously folks, do we really need yet another highly interpretive term to have misunderstandings over?

History has proven this is what will happen.
One group will say and want it to  mean Greek. Another will claim no, it means I get to cum on your face or a provider will claim abuse because some client tried to tie her up and spank her ass.
[For you literal people I was speaking in a metaphor ]


DevilDuck - Just read their reviews, get a good idea what they stand for or do and decide if it's for you. Either that  or put out there what you want in the open and see what bites.

Oh wait... is biting GFE or kinky fetish ?


{laugh}


Sincerely,

Lee Dreams
"It's all about integrity"

and not a guarentee you will get any additonal extras.

The terms GFE and PSE have never been defined in the decade I have been involved in this hobby. One man's PSE is another man's GFE and vice versa. Lately it has been showing up frequently with the Asian agencies. I saw a girl from IlovHot and she didnt speak enough english to know what I was paying for! I paid for GFE+ and I got BBBJ with CIM.

...just like the rest of the English language, hobby terms are often in a state of flux.  Even the meaning of GFE is not nailed down and universally understood.  Some things are pretty solid, like CIM, NQNS, RCG, etc.  Another term is probably not going to hurt us.  And if, in fact, GFE+ becomes understood to distinguish between CIM and non-CIM sessions, well, that might be helpful.

And last time I checked, biting was ((GFE+)*2 / PSE/3) * (0.76114 * GFE)**(1/2), as long as no marks are left on the skin.  The acronym gets really unmanageable otherwise...

Based on my experience with 2 of the local Asian agencies, I definitely agree that CIM is one difference, but I also think MSOG is one.  Most of my visits were GFE+ so I can't say this with certainty, but I did have a few visits with GFE and I don't believe MSOG was included.

.. I'm not advocating BBFS.  Just saying that sometimes girls use sneaky methods to convey the message -  GFE+, ULTRA GFE etc...

....means greek. Calling it PSE seems easier to me unless calling it GFE Plus (GFE+) is supposed to make it sound more special.

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From my experiences with some of the local Asian agencies.  GFE plus gives you CIM and MSOG, and sometimes RIM. But sometimes it depends on the provider you are seeing too.  Some just don't offer CIM or RIM, or both.  But most of times you  can expect to get at least two of three items listed above.  Definately no BBFS or GREEK.

Ms Mocha, The Asian agency provider community / coalition that introduced the term GFE+ also at times advertises concurrently PSE, so there must be some distinction.  I'm pretty confident that by PSE they mean Greek.  So if they're using both PSE and GFE+ concurrently and pricing those services differently, and PSE is meaning Greek, it's not likely that GFE+ means the same thing.  Right?

It's also possible I have no idea what I'm talking about.  That has definitely happened before...

I agree with slipperyfun.... I don't think so. GFE+ is GFE with CIM and perhaps rimming but it's more of a case of YMMV than anything else.

PornStar Experience doesnt mean greek is involved, just alittle more aggressive or kinky than a typical GFE session.
GFE+ means greek. You will notice on agency ads the extra donation fees on the girls that offer GFE+