I totally agree. You used to be able to develop a loose friendship with them because they were real down to earth people and not so fake and conceited like today’s ladies who like to flaunt their luxury vacations and their foodiness. It’s a generational difference. It is very hard today to find someone who is not so phony and displays absolutely no personal interest. The prices do not warrant the service that is delivered. I have the money but I am not going to pay those outrageous prices. But you have to blame the clueless douchebags who are willing to pay these prices and even go even further paying for overnights and vacations. Even reading some of the reviews these guys write shows that they have no idea of judging quality of experience. Really there is no difference between the $400 per hour vs $1000 per hour experience, except the $400 experience is usually better in overall attitude and atmosphere. I am using escorts much less and have an out of town married fuck buddy whom I help out with bills and it is simple no strings attached sex with no commitments. A lot cheaper and it is better to be with someone who is eager to be fucked than with someone who thinks she is doing me a big favor
The whole thing is not sustainable. There is a provider whose rate was $700/h about a year ago. Her rate is now $2000/h. Who is paying these outrageous prices? If most of these douchebags have money to burn, there are better ways to burn cash. Now, I just stick to civies for the most part and refuse to burn my cash on frivolous nonsense. The other thing that’s going to blow up in people’s faces is the ever more personal info being requested. Someone’s going to get busted one day and all your info will be compromised by LE. It’s a matter of time before it happens. How are you going to explain a SW having pictures of your government issued ID and other private information?
I think the type of girl you’re yearning for still exists, but is more readily found in the Sugar Baby world, which gets a lot of discussion at the Erotic Highway forum.
As far a pricing and social media goes, I think it’s a combination of two things. First, there are more millionaires and billionaires in the hobby than 10 or 20 years ago. And I suspect that that aspect of the industry was largely under the radar, i.e. not highly advertised or reviewed. There have always been $1K per hour providers, jetting to Ibiza & Abu Dhabi, most of us never saw or heard of them. The increase in uber wealthy hobbyists has created a market for providers to meet that demand. The difference is that we now can view this market as the girls are advertising and branding on Twitter. It makes sense that savvy providers would jump at the opportunity to fill that void. It’s my guess that there are girls in that category who can deliver the GFE experience you pine for. You yourself have a great review to a $900 per hour provider who advertises and brands on Twitter. They are out there, but it takes multiple $1000 appointments to find them.
The SB World is a scam filled town with grifters who are looking for a sucker to pay for the diapers and the car note. There's a lot of talk on the Erotic Highway about that elusive unicorn. Look closer and you will spot unicorn droppings.
I respectfully disagree with the prior posting about the sugar bowl. I have recently jumped in and found that it much more resembles what the hobby used to be like five years ago when I first started. I’ve had two dates for $300 and $500 respectively that resembled what the escort experience used to be like with more time then I could get with an escort for those same prices of course you have to sift through a lot of sand to get to the gold. I highly recommend it for those not interested in paying the outrageous prices that seem to be the norm today in the escort universe. I also would point out that many agencies such as touring girls, matchless, and others have disappeared unfortunately. Where are the young promising entrepreneurs?
It’s 10000 pct unsustainable I liken it to the suburban ladies divorce business. The first one says I want the exact same life I have right now just without you in it and you are paying for all of it. She tells all her lady friends and the next one ups the ante and I want x on top of that .. the 3rd even bigger ante up … get to the 6th or 7th in the neighborhood and the dads fight back … the rest of the milfs lose big time as do some of the originators of the scam because the dads hired a better attorney for round 2.
I tried the SB route last year and out of dozens of tries I got one that wasn't delusional. Most of them wanted 500 - 1k just to meet up. The one I ended up with was 300 and would stay as long as I wanted in an outcall hotel.
I was able to get in about 10 years ago when the screening was not as strict as today. They just raised their rate to 300 after 10 years. The only problem is I want varieties sometimes. You can't eat the same food every day no matter how good it tastes. There are very few agencies that offer Caucasian girls while there were many like TGNT, Prime DC, Classy DC Escorts, Elite Girlfriends, DMV Indys10-15 years ago. Private Liason is the only agency that I can think of. Their rate is between 350-400 which is reasonable.
As for SB's, I started dipping in the Sugar Bowl back in 2015. I had some success in the first 3 or 4 years. Most of the SB's I found asked between 300 to 400 and they usually stayed 3 or 4 hours. Some even stayed overnights and I took one to NYC for a weekend trip. The M&G was always free. Unfortunately starting in 2019, I noticed SB's started asking for 500 or more (500 is the old 300 just like escorts) and wanted $ just for M&G. Since then, I just stuck with my regulars and stopped looking for new blood. After the pandemic started, most of my SB's simply disappeared. Right now, I only see K-girls.
Perhaps your racist attitude turns them off and causes them to give you a mechanical service. They are humans too in case you haven't noticed and can feel customers' vibes. You give out bad vibes so they respond in kind. I have never had a bad experience with a K-girl. A lot of them are quite warm and friendly if you treat them well. A lot of them can barely speak English but smile is the universal language.
While preferences are preferences, you saying pubic hair is weird. Almost all kgirls are shaved bald. Are you sure you saw kgirls?
Dk what is ugly about their cunt or nipples, that dark color is amazing imo. But preferences again. There are some amazing kgirls who deviate from script and pamper you as any service girl. I think you are generalizing off a limited experience. Many do follow a script, but many don't.
I've seen plenty of woman of all races with dark nipples/areola and dark pussy lips. The few Korean ladies I have seen weren't at all dark in those area, so that's really not a trait that Koreans have.
I try to keep neutral in my comment and just note that: 1) I don't think you've ever actually seen a k-girl in the sense of the meaning that term has for most here. 2) I have to agree with cks to a degree in that the way you are expressing yourself and the tone used does come across as a racists trying to deflect. If being confused with a racist is bothering you that much, perhaps reflecting a little on how you're expressing yourself might help improve your communication style and mitigate such responses.
1) While I won't say you never saw a kgirl, I think your sample size is limited and some of what you say about their appearance (bush) is not what kgirl mongers see.
2) Preference is preference, but instead of just saying you didn't like their looks, you've had very specific things pinned calling their features ugly, almost deliberately. Perhaps it was just you saying what exactly you disliked about their looks, but that was oddly specific.
In the interest of getting this interesting question back on track, I think whether or not things are "better now" or do I "prefer the past" isn't a cut & dry answer because all of us have changed over the years. If nothing else, we all have gotten older. Our preferences in women have changed. Many of us now have ED problems. Women whom we adored in our 30s are now post-menopausal in their 50s. Body art (tattoos, piercings) have gone off-scale. The access to porn has become pretty much routine, so there are now expectations about what sex should be like. Compare a Nina Hartley blow job from the 1990s with a blow job from today's 19 year olds. I want my plumbing caressed and adored rather then spat upon and rubbed & pulled like she wants to tear it loose. I'm in my mid-60s and I want to spend quality time with someone close to my age. There are plenty of women in my age group who are as fit as me and who, like me, don't want to give up quite yet. They have seen it all and completely understand that I have a hard time getting hard enough to penetrate because of prostate cancer surgery. Dry orgasms really make clean-up easy!
Millennials and Gen Z'ers are going to define the hobby to suit themselves. I say let them go and do their thing. I'm happy with women my age who love sex as much as I.
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