Transsexual
Nichole, I appreciate your thoughts. Sounds to me like typical catty BS I hear from t-girl dancers at our local tranny bar. "oh i am a REAL transsexual, the other dancers here are just CD's" "all the other girls envy my transition, I am beautiful and they wish they could look like me" etc etc etc. All propaganda bull shit.
First let me say I am a member of a local escort review board of 15,000 members, which comprises of a physical area of maybe 10 miles by 50 miles. Us guys eat drink and sleep escorts!! 
I am the one who brought t-girls to our membership and that stirred a lot of shit in itself. The way you say t-girls = female and shemales = males. Most of the members of my escort review site feel ALL TS's, even post ops, are still MEN, period. That is why they are pissed at me for bringing tranny escorts to our site.
TER is an escort review site. I find it strange that t-girls who participate on this site would not do what most men who see t-girl escorts would prefer. That is do what ever it takes to have a rock hard cock. (even if it meant taking Viagra or Cialis or herdick pills) IMO, if a man wanted to hook up with a female like human being who had a limp wet noodle cock, he might as well screw the whole fantasy and hook up with a foxy genetic babe and lick her tiny clit. I know 100's of guys who hook up with t-girl escorts. What do we all talk about? This: does her cock stay hard a looong time? Can she top? Does she shoot a nice cum load? Those are the three major questions most guys who seek perfection in a t-girl escort are seeking. IMO, if a t-girl is going to be an ESCORT, she should sacrifice all personal issues pertaining to being a t-girl, to make sure she does nothing to alter her rock hard cock and shooting a nice cum load.
Again, most all the guys of our local review board did not want t-girls present making impure the GG escorts. They feel ANY human being with a cock IS a MAN. IMO, your cattiness of "I am a woman" and "she is a dude" is counter productive to the t-girl community as a whole. The TS community has enough real enemies out there with out us being divided amongst ourselves with catty BS of who's a woman and who's a dude.
IMO, any human being who makes an effort to transition them self from a male to a female is a TS. They might only be a transvestite or CD, but if they make the effort to be passable, IMO, they are as much a t-girl as a t-girl who takes hormones and lives 24/7 as a woman. Just at a less degree of passability. IMO, no man tries to dress as and be like a woman unless he feels wom-like from with in. There are varying degrees of this though.
I know of a CD who only dresses as a woman on week ends and hooks up with atleast 100 men a year to top "her" anally. "She" feels she has never had gay sex in her life, because when she is dressed as a woman, she feels she IS a woman. hence her love making is between a man and a woman despite the fact she is only a week end CD.
I can possibly see how a post op might consider herself more of a woman than a pre-op, but IMO, that too is catty bull shit. Because there are gawky unpassable post ops and there are super passable CD's who IMO are more womanly than the post op on hormones.
I like the idea that TER is an escort review board. This way we get opinions that are more geared towards men who see tranny ho's and the tranny ho's themselves. I have posted on CL's TS forum and it is a hopeless cause. Those t-girls are in la la land and have no concept at all of the t-girl escort market and what is of value on it.
Thank you for your thoughts, Ms catty one!!!
My experience is, a t-girl rarely "can have her cake and eat it too" Hormones make a t-girl escort inferior. It sounds harsh, but it is true. I have heard many t-girl escorts say "I take hormones but only in small does. It does not affect my functionality" 9 times out of 10 on a hook up with this hormone taking t-girl escort, she has "cock problems" Either she can't stay hard, can't get it up, can't top, can't cum, can't stay hard for a long time etc etc.
I referred at least 25 of my buddies to hook up with a t-girl who lives 24/7 as a woman. She has no breast implants and takes zero hormones. Nichol would consider her a man i guess? Anyway, my buddies LOVE her. She is super feminine. She is GFE, PSE, DFK's. Is like 5' 4" 120 lbs with a rock hard 5" cut cock that stays hard a half hour or longer till she shoots a nice cum load. She loves to top and bottom. She is a dream t-girl who wears lingerie, thigh high highs and high heels. Guys are lined up to see her. Nichole would call her a man !!! ha ha ha Fact of the matter is, this "man" is what men who are seeking a t-girl fantasy are seeking. She is a Goddess!!! She can do it ALL, and is reasonably priced
It is not fickle and superficial. Unless you consider a man hooking up with any escort to be fickle and superficial. Most men who pay for a TS escorts time, want the real deal and the full program. T-girls who take hormones are not up to par capability wise to a t-girl who can top for a half hour and cum. I would only see such a non-functioning hormone induced t-girl if she was half the price of a hard cock shooting cum t-girl.
IMO, hormones mess up a TRUE t-girl escorts marketability. IMO, if a t-girl escort takes being an escort seriously, lay off the juice!!! )hormones) You felt like a girl as a child. That is what made you transition. If you're not going to be a ho, juice up all you like. A t-girl escort is only as good as her rock hard cock!
Amen and amen!! Lisa, you look lovely!!! Any one can put any label in the world on you. I label you HOT!!!
Especially the pic of you from your web site that I attached below. A Picasso!!! A masterpiece!! Oooohhh baby, I would love to have some fun with you!!! Keep up the good work Lisa darling!!! xoxoxox
Some good replies to a question many men in the hobby have.
First of all, for JohnHolmes, there are different kinds of t-girls and admirers. Some men who date t-girls do it because they want to suck or be fucked by a cock and the thought of doing that with another man is unappealing, while the eroticness of a t-girl is sensual and stimulating.
And that's fine. And that may even be the majority of the trans admirers. I wouldn't not recommend a quality girl because she isn't a top though.
Other men relate to t-girls totally as women, they are not interested in the penis at all, they may just want a good BJ or they may like the way it feels to do greek on a willing partner - and a lot of GG's and wives won't do that. (Don't know what they are missing... giggle)
And sometimes men enjoy the company of a girl who can relate to them from a male viewpoint. There's a difference between talking to a GG about marlin fishing and talking to a trans girl who's done it.
In my case I've sort of gone the whole circle. When I started escorting I was strictly a bottom, then because people paid me, I started topping. Now I've reached a stage where I don't want to top anymore - unless it's wit a strap on. If I lose some dates because I am a girl and want to serve my man AS a girl, then that's just the way it is.
It may not be a permenant thing, and I may find that it's more dependent on the person I'm with, but I'm just at a point where I want to be all girl when I'm with a man.
But for some odd reason I still like to top GG girls.
I agree with Mandy that "shemale" is mostly a porn term. I don't consider myself a male - but I do like to sell videos so I will sometimes use "shemale" for advertising purposes.
Just as I refer to myself as a "BoyGirl," it's my advertising trademark.
Also I go with Mandy, I was taking hormones before I started escorting. It's really two separate things.
And actually even having been on hormones for three years I don't have a bit of a problem getting things hard - IF - I'm touched just right, and IF I'm turned on my my partner. I don't ejaculate, just a drop or two - and if that's important to a gent then yes, I'm not for him.
But it's not ALL about cum. Sometimes dating is just about having a good time with someone who enjoys your company, and that's the kind of person I like to date anyway. The kind who enjoys conversation and making LOVE, and a glass of fine wine, and who wants a girl who will pamper him like he deserves.
The problem is when you've had sex a lot, it's takes a bit to get turned on and so many guys are like "well, you've had 10 seconds and I stroked it twice - why isn't it hard yet?"
It's like how many of you guys still get an instant hard on when you are with your wife? It takes some passion. And unlike a GG - we can't fake it.
Yes, many trans escorts do stay off hormones so as to provide their service. And I personally know two gay male escorts who have had extensive surgery and bill themselves as trans - because they can make 50 times the $$.
And that gets into a whole different thread. But the reality is what does any of it matter? Everyone has their tastes, and they may change over time. So whether you relate to the person as a gay man, a hormone free female, a transsexual or just a chick with a dick, if your needs and interests are met, relax and enjoy!
Giggle,
TS Jamie
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John Holmes wrote
"A t-girl escort is only as good as her rock hard cock! "
What a sadly misinformed thing to say. Best of luck in your search for the perfect boner.
To everyone else, sometimes a girl does what a girl has to do.
Quality companionship is a skill that is learned over time, and it involves much more than a testosterone shot before a session.
Ms Jasmine, You're welcome on the compliments. They are sincere and from the heart. The pic of you on the welcome page of your web site is absolutly perfectly HOT. It is a very simple and conservative pic of you, but IMO, it is even more attractive than the more sensual or flirtatious pics of you. Why? In your simple little black dress, showing a little thigh, blonde hair combed forward in bangs, skinny and pretty body, in lovely shoes. Sheer perfection in pure beauty of a woman. Why so attractive? Because men know what you are hiding in your Victoria Secret panties! If what was in your panties remained limp, it would not be that attractive of a package. The fact that you get hard and that you are skinny and pretty is the height and epitome of perfection in a t-girl.
To be honest, most t-girls who I know and are dancers and IMO, lead a very unusual life. They dance to earn a living. They hook up on the side to suppliment their income. They drink, they party, they typically live in small rented totally cluttered efficiency apartments with clothes, make up, CD's and other stuff thrown all over. Many don't even have kitchens because I guess they eat out all the time. They sleep when it's day light out and work n play in the dark hours. It's a very unusual life style.
I think I know the inner workings of a M2F TS pretty good. Especially the escort variety. I learn more all the time though. For most M2F's, as a young child they felt they were a girl trapped in a boys body. It is typically not till her late teens or early 20's that she finally experiences great freedom with in when she finally lives as a woman. She finally makes her external body and manner of dressing match what she's always felt inside. This is all very real. Men who are not into t-girls think it is all fake and t-girls are just "men with tits". Very untrue. However, how a t-girl is going to some how transition from a hot bodied, pretty face woman with a hard as a rock cock that fucks men in the ass for a living, is going to some day get SRS and live happily ever after in a house with a white picket fence, a husband, 2 kids, a dog and a cat is beyond me!! Especially knowing the "crazy" lives most TS's live. I don't see it happening. I do "hear" most of you t-girls expressing that your life and dreams are separate from being a 24/7 TS hooker. Honestly, IMO, rare is the t-girl that is going to have a traditional long term "normal" relationship in a monoagamous relationship with a man. It will be a bumpy road and 95% will not succeed. Perhaps less than 5% will IMO. There are just too many mental and hormonal obstacles for the transitioned woman to overcome and the typical client of a t-girl sees her for fantasy fulfillment. Fantasy is very far from reality. IMO, reality is, men hook up with TS's and marry GG's. Most men who would desire to marry a TS and not the type of men the TS desires, which are men who are interested in her cock and cum load.
There is more to an experience with a t-girl escort than her being able to end with shooting a nice cum load. However, IMO, a truly perfect t-girl is not only skinny and pretty, she also has a rock hard cock that can stay hard 20 minutes or longer and shoot a cum load. If in creating this perfect t-girl means that she must not take hormones to achieve such perfection, then so be it. She already leads a crazy life any way, is it so much to ask her to lay off the juice?!!! (hormones)
9 out of 10 men who see t-girl escorts are not gay. These men have zero interest in hooking up with men. If not for the fact that a t-girl looks totally like a woman, men would have zero interest in her. That is the reason why men who see t-girl escorts need for her to be passable. T-girls are NOT a gay mans fetish. Gay men like MEN, not TS's who portray themselves as women. In reality, the gay community and the TS community have very little in common other than lack of societal acceptance.
Most of the 100's of guys that I know who are into t-girl hook ups desire for her cock to be hard and able to cum. If no hard cock on the t-girl, honestly, most men would prefer to see a GG escort who is 9 times out of 10 naturally more feminine and passable as a woman, for obvious reasons. Hence your mention of gay baths, truck stops etc etc, is totally out of place and context in what men seek when hooking up. If the cock you possess was not adorned via the complete package of the female body and feminine adornment, we would have zero interest in your cock. I am sure you are aware of this 100% truth?
You look lovely and sweet. Us guys who are into t-girls can appreciate all the work you've done in your transition and the perfection you've attained. Wishing you all the best. JH
Wow! What a great discussion! I feel compelled to add some more.
JohnHolmes, your last post was excellent. Though it's probably more like 99 of 100 guys into T-girls are straight. As a TS I doubt I've ever dated more than a couple of guys who considered themselves gay.
You are also right in your comments that many TS's are never going to fit into the picket fence lifestyle, unfortunately many girls who get into sex work will die young of drugs, disease, suicide or violence.
However from your comments about the dancer/party crowd - honey maybe you need to cultivate a litle higher class friends.
I for sure don't live in a small cluttered efficency. While yes, we do rent. We live in a very private, gorgeous, guarded, resort style condo with a pool, spa, little lakes. We just remodeled last summer. We have original artwork on the walls, wide screen TV and a Bose sound system. And yeah... Ikea furniture. Giggle.
But we are't spending all our money on crack either. (More like on gas these days...)
But you are absolutely right that the "Pretty Woman" syndrome isn't going to happen for very many girls.
While I have and love my partner Jessica, there's times when a girl just needs a man. Though I'm not waiting around for Mr. Right to come along and sweep me to his castle. And I guess one good thing about being trans is that unlike many GG's, I am capable of making my own moves and securing my own future. I just need men for SEX!
I also have to respectfully disagree with you that most guys into T's want a rock hard cock or to be topped. Absolutely you are correct that there is a high percentage, but I have to say the best dates I've had have always been those where I was the girl.
And in my experience - when it's dark and nobody is watching, and it's "been awhile," a lot of men will dive into the closest warm hole regardless of what's on the other side!
PS - Jasmine - tell us more about the truckstops - now THAT sounds like some fun! And let's see $50 times 50 guys a day... I could live on that - if I didn't drown.
Giggle,
TS Jamie
It's the same idea...If a T-girl wants to use H then just be honest and tell us. If a guy is looking for one that is just a nice person and all that then great. But, if he wants a lady that trully has extra powers then he knows that he's got to look elsewhere.
As for the guy putting his wants ahead of the providers...If I am paying the bill I'm not terribly concerned about her thoughts and dreams etc, etc. I will treat her with respect while we are together but I'm not looking for a relationship, I've got that already and god knows I don't need another one.
Yes, dear I know - but I was sooo looking forard to being some hotties bunk bunny and ejoying his stick shifter.
PS - Is it true - the bigger the truck the smaller the penis?
Giggle,
TS Jamie
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Honestly, I feel heavy duty caustic negative vibes when I read your posts. As if you have a cancer growing in you. You are dead set that no one ever finds out that you are TS, yet you are an escort, so any guy who hooks up with you has potential to out you. You self admittedly feel like you are living a living hell and for sure your writing expresses that. It's just weird to observe your writing that expresses so much pent up frustration, perhaps anger and unhappiness. I know none of us chose to be born and we all have to make the best with the life we have. I have been around a lot of M2F transsexuals and have never felt the severe negative vibes that you seem to be drenched in.
You are a total bottom only girl and that is cool, there are many other t-girls like you.
The guys I know who are into t-girls, all want to see a hard cock on her. Otherwise, might as well see a GG at half the price. I know decent looking t-girls on hormones who offer a rub and tug for 150. Genetic girls offer the same service for 75. From a John's stand point, why pay twice the price and not get the true t-girl expeience that he desires. Might as well see the GG for 75.
In a way, I am grateful for this discussion board that t-girl escorts get to reveal how they really feel about being an escort. The ones who express that being a ho is just a transitional thing to make $$$ to complete their transition to SRS, make me feel much better about the fact that they are not worth the high $$$ they seek. The ho's have their selfish motives and now so do the Johns. It's all about money and service. Good thing for TER and other review boards where info is shared so John's know what is up.
Do you not post a link to your ad or web site like other t-girl escorts do because of a perceived feeling that no TER John's would contact you via the vibes that you display?
Those hormones seem to be doing you real good. You are just like a gentic woman now. PMS bitchiness and all!! ha ha ha Damn, are you going through menopause?!!! Holy shit, I am a single guy and I feel all the negative vibes of being an unhappily married man just via reading your posts!! I want a divorce!!! ha ha ha
>>Honestly, I feel heavy duty caustic negative vibes >>when I read your posts.
Negative vibes? Are you shocked? To call your posts some of the most offensive and devaluing ones I've seen levied at transsexuals would be an understatement.
It's the same feeling I get when I read the writings of a misogynist who thinks that they're actually being respectful of women even though they think that women should accept their traditional position as second class citizens
>>You are dead set that no one ever finds out that >>you are TS, yet you are an escort, so any guy who hooks up with you has potential to out you.
Certainly it's been considered. Even more so due to the fact that people that know me only as a woman have contacted me in the past not knowing it was me. But it is what it is. I work with what I've got. If it presents itself as an issue then I will drop my current life, move and start a new one.
Though this glosses over the fact that most of the guys that come to see me sure would not be eager to out themselves to out me
>I have been around a lot of M2F transsexuals and >have never felt the severe negative vibes that >you seem to be drenched in.
Well if you actually knew me in person you'd not feel them either because for one thing, you'd probably not know that I was transsexual, and for another, I'm very happy go lucky and probably one of the most laid back people one could ever know.
Certainly, I'm not going to deny that I have inner turmoil over my birth defect, but it is what it is. The only reason you see that turmoil coming to surface here is because here transsexuality is the topic of the day and it's one I have strong feelings on. The strong feelings I have on this topic do not surface in my day to day life.
>>The guys I know who are into t-girls, all want >>to see a hard cock on her.
That's fantastic. I have my vices, I wont deny others theirs.
But the fact remains that I've had numerous clients come to see me, pay the full 200+ for full service and then leave without ever so much as asking anything more then a BJ even when I offer, some of them don't even touch my bottom parts.
I've had clients come see me and ask me to leave my underwear on. (Though Admittedly I always find that a little shocking but am always more then happy to comply)
Really it takes all kinds. Most of the guys that come see me know that I do not get it up if they bother to read my ad, yet they still come. Clearly not everyone feels as you do.
Would you be shocked to find that I often have clients mention that they think the girls that advertise their big hard dicks and offer top services are silly, gross, and perceived as "missing the point" of transitioning in the first place?
What if I told you that a number of clients have actually outright told me that they like the fact that I am small and "feminine" down below and that that's part of what attracted them to me in first place?
>>In a way, I am grateful for this discussion >>board that t-girl escorts get to reveal how they >>really feel about being an escort.
I love this job. I completely intend to continue doing it after SRS. "We lead a merry life, and no one leads a merry life for a farthing." --Robin Hood
>>Do you not post a link to your ad or web site >>like other t-girl escorts do because of a >>perceived feeling that no TER John's would >>contact you via the vibes that you display?
Wouldn't be very stealthy, would it?
At any rate, I've got a number of very positive reviews up on at least a few sites(including this one). Believe it or not, despite a dick that would be difficult to get up with a crane...people enjoy their time with me because I'm actually genuinely very nice in addition to being very attractive.
However, this is my mouthpiece for serious discussion on a sensitive topic. As such I realize that some of my posts are going to come off with a harsh edge that I don't have in person. That's the nature of internet discussion.
But it's particularly so when I read a post that's extremely insulting on a very deep and personal level. As I found yours to be.
At any rate, I see no reason not to have my cake and eat it to. As a business woman I recognize that it behooves me to nod and smile at everything. However as a human being I have opinions and a desire to express them.
Think me disingenuous for it if you like but I suspect that most of the girls here withhold some of their stronger feelings to one degree or another. Maybe I'm wrong in that regard, but at the end of the day...this sure is some delicious cake I'm having
Now that's a lot better! You almost seem like a "normal person" in your reply! I was prepared to read a message from the wicked witch of the west, but you were as sweet as the good witch from the east!! Quite lovable, I must admit. My life has been filled with "love hate" relationships. You seem like you'd be a fun girl to have one with!! ha ha ha
Honey, ever since Adam banged Eve, women were subservient to men. Women stayed home, barefoot and pregnant and rasied a family. Not until the 1960's did women rebell and start the woman's liberation movement. Never before in the history of Mankind has the divorce rate been so high. Why? Eve started it via biting the forbidden fruit way back when. Modern day women followed in tradition and are rebelling again. This is why perhaps never before in all time, has the popularity of escorts been so much. The internet helped, but men need hookers more in 2008 than they ever did. The value of life long commitment is gone. People are independent. Love and commitment are like the drive thru of Burger King, cheap, fast and easy.
>>>> for serious discussion on a sensitive topic>>>>
Pretty interesting. On CL, their TS forum is controlled via TS's who don't allow a peep of sexual content to be posted with out flagging it. On my local escort review site, all we talk about is the graphicness of a sexual hook up. It is funny that the majority of t-girls on TER are ho's and the majority of men on TER are John's who hook up with ho's, yet amongst us is supposed to be serious discussion on a senitive topic? Isn't it supposed to be more like two strangers hooking up and sticking private parts into each other till we climax? Sensitive and serious sounds more like church!!
What ever happened to Xavia (sp) Hollander, The Happy Hooker..... It seems most of you t-girls are strickly into escorting for purely selfish motives of cash in your pocket. You REALLY do not want to sell your body, but you do it as a trade of to transision and earn a living. It seems most of the hormone induced ho's do not mind being a ho, but they will not give up their hormones to offer a stiffy to their clients.
The CL TS forum was a shocker to me in all that they talk about is hormones and SRS. The TS dancers I have met in real life and hooked up with, some have never heard of the word SRS!!! Now I am observing TER ho's and their views on transseuxality. Reminds me of Hollywood. A big strange place with people from every walk of life.
Wishing you all the best.