I have noticed that almost all the supposedly versatile TS girls that I’ve been with really can’t get hard enough to fuck. There have been one or two that I was really disappointed with, and felt that they were really bottom only.
One even advertised as being “rock hard”. And none so far has “measured up” to their claimed endowments.
I have even thought about offering Viagra to one or two, but I don’t know how the offer would be received.
Even worse, the last one complained that I was too big and hard, and gave up. I would like some serious advice on how to handle this, short of taking back half my donation and leaving. Do I stop the action and complain right then, or bring it up before starting, or even when booking”
I’m a more than reasonable and fair guy, but I’m feeling cheated here.
My experience is that anyone who describes themselves as "versatile" is usually a bottom by default attempting to get more business. I'm only attracted to bottom/vers gals and steer clear of tops. I will first text so called "vers tops" to see if they bottom...if they do, they often want an up-charge for it. Insofar as complaining and getting donation back, I would not bother. There is a certain element of risk, financial and otherwise, if you start to complain....there are plenty of horror stories of mentally unstable providers going off the rails on clients. Best advice....bring it all up before the session via text or phone, check for reviews, and after all that you still might get cheated.
First: in their shoes, I wouldn't take a pill offered by a client unless I was 110% sure that I wasn't being dosed with something untoward.
One little tactic I've taken is to schedule as early as feasible in the day, the theory being if she's been fucking all day and perhaps cumming, she might be kind of worn out later in the day. With my local favorite for the past several years, I used to schedule at something like 7 AM, stopping off on my way to work, and I'd always or almost always get a rock hard performance and often a nice cumshot.
Other than that, while I might sympathize with them, to the extent that they can't perform, I just don't re-hire.
Thanks for the illustration, driving home the point
And best cock. She was the best ever. She could fuck forever, then turn around and ask for her ass to be plowed.
Wish Honey was still providing. I think she stopped after Sheen came out as hiv+. Think it scared her a bit
If the girls tell the truth and say they are bottoms, they'd get very little business. It's been this way forever.
All good points. I have to book no later than 8am. That alone makes booking difficult with lots of providers.
I have been interpreting the versatile top, more seriously. It’s still iffy, as some providers are less than honest on some of their stats. Thanks for the input.
You've opened a Huge can of worms with this, it's a common topic that comes up gets answered and then forgotten. 1) I would agree that the girls advertising as versatile are more like to be a bottom and trying to book more clients. 2) Outside of the hobby, MTF trans women are roughly 50-70% bottom, so those who top are more rare to begin with. 3) I would look for girls who advertise as vers top or all top only, if you're looking for top girls. 4) DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE OR ANYTHING BOASTING OF PERFORMANCE AND EVEN SIZE. 5) Trans math is simple if they say 7" the reality is 5", 8" the reality is 6-7", if they say 9-10", unless you read a review confirming it, the reality is 8-9" max. The average penis size for Asia is under 5", Americans it's 5.5", Europe 6", South America 6.5" and Africa 7" those are averages around the world. 6) Read reviews and do you homework, that what this site is for. Good top girls have consistent reviews confirming performance, size etc. Of take one for the team and accurately report how it went. 7) There's a current tend for reviewers to over exaggerate the size of many trans women. I have no idea why, stroking their ego I guess. 8) Ask several questions while setting up the appointment, but don't rapid fire them like you're reading from a list make it conversational. 9) Viagra or not, if the girls do more volume it may be difficult for them to keep it up. If they don't find you at least average attractive that can also kill it for them. Ask yourself what does it take to get and keep you hard, maybe that's a good conversation piece with them? Be careful out there and have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You wrote about a very touchy subject. I would never offer a girl pills. when I bring a bottle of wine with me I make sure its un corked and always ask before hand.
Most of the girls that are transitioning are using some form of Hormones which we all know causes issues in their ability to top.
They also usually the ones that top probably 1 or 2 good sessions per day and they will probably charge a premium for that.
its all set up in their favor sadly. Most of the ads dont want you to discuss anything sexual. They dont want to discuss anything and most will tell you what ever you want to hear just to get you and your money at the location.
As for taking part of the donation back in my opinion going down that road you would have better luck baptizing a cat.
Not only do they get the guys to travel before knowing what is and isn't on the menu, but many get him to hand over money before agreeing to provide it. Anyone go for another rip-off ? --- VIP in the ad, a huge red flag.
Newsflash: we don’t discuss a “menu” because that’s how you get arrested if you’re being contacted by a sting. 🙄
I was thinking the same thing. I’ll settle for whatever description is in your ad, or review page.
I'm under the impression that, except for some cases of streetwalking action, sex for $ is de facto legal, that is not enforced even if there are prohibitive statutes still 'on the books'.
Any provider that refuses to discuss privately via text or phone "menu" items is a red flag to move on to someone else. LE is not tapping into your texts/phone, that requires a warrant to be admissable in court. Sting operations (usually massage parlors, streetwalking) are coordinated with local/state/Fed judiciary. They are not targeting just one person but so-called "rings".
Not discussing details on the phone takes advantage of many customers failing the 'sunk cost' fallacy. By refusing to tell the customer whether she provides what he seeks before making the trip, she gets him to spend the time & effort to show up at the door without knowing the likelihood of being satisfied. Then the fail comes. He senses the provider doesn't give a damn about providing what he wants but throws away more money as if that will somehow make his travel and effort worthwhile.
Nice try. Cops NEVER go after the providers, they go for the Johns. It's easier to prove, and they seem to think the "problem" of the world's oldest profession will go away if the eliminate the demand, rather than the supply. And there really haven't been many stings since covid started bc they aren't sufficiently staffed. Pretty much every LEO department is short staffed.
Newsflash: we don’t discuss a “menu” because that’s how you get arrested if you’re being contacted by a sting. 🙄
Well, I think it's over the top to say. But cops never go after us providers. Odds are that cops are more likely fishing for clients then providers. (1) They are understaffed. (2) There is the perception that us providers are lost Little lambs forced into an unfortunate situation by the predatory men.🙄 (3) its just easier to go after the buyer. Post some ads and the perps call them rather than them having to make a gazillion calls to bag one girl.
With all that it can still give a girl the creepies when an unknown potential comes in hour with a list of specific acts to perform. I understand that you want to know what you're getting for your money. And many men in this world have very specific sexual needs. Remember tho too that the girl on the other end of the phone is a human and not under an obligation to take YOUR booking. Those of us who have been doing this for many years kero doing it because we enjoy our clients. Be the client we enjoy and we will go out of our way.you're needs and desires.
Oh, and the being truly versatile thing, It does get way more difficult to get and keep a penetration ready erection after being on hormones for a while. Especially multiple times in 1 day. I rarely promise being able to top. Cause the fact is I don't know that it will cooperate.
I've had just the opposite problem. I've known some beauty Queens that would get growing big & hard, too quickly / fast. Beautiful Ruby of Barcelona would simply give some kisses then a minute later I'd feel her poking against my belly with her big thing. And that was without us touching her cock. And Miss Beauty Queen Jessyka Ketlen of Belem, Brazil, was about the same.
And Miss beautiful Bianca of Barcelona, I saw her a few times and she was never limp, she was always hard from the start! My mouth could hardly / barely fit Miss Ruby and could not fit Miss Jessyka! I believe Miss Suzanna Holms always starts out soft / Limp. Though I believe she would get too big for most mouths! And there's been others, like Miss Katuska of Panama. And one in Britain from South America.
There was one in Rio de Janeiro that got upset when I said I didn't like the smell. She said she would call the Law on me if I didn't pay-up! Sounded like a funny kind of a racket to me. Even if I don't like what I see or...., I still give some money to the Lady.
The bottom-line here is, be careful what you wish for!!!