Re: You make a valid point. The girl/woman thing would be fun to play armchair psychology

I just had this conversation with a gg friend of mine and yes, she hates (her words) being referred to as a girl. Shes a woman, not a 'little girl'...she says confidentally.

I believe it depends on where a "girl" is in her transition. This may be a shock to many of you however, most of us probably were forced one way or another to go through puberty as a boy.

That being said, hrt (hormone replacement therapy) in some ways puts a transgender person through somewhat of a 2nd puberty. Take me for example (oh I love the way that sounds, "take me!"). I have been on hrt for about 2 years now. Although I have the mind of an experienced business woman, my thought process as well as my sexual prowess is more like that of a teenage 'girl.' So in essence, I have become "boy crazy." Referring to men as boys and girls as girls allows me to explore sexually and keeps the youthfull innocence that many of us feel we didn't have a chance to experience in our early and mid teens.

Just one womans' (girl's) opinion...

- Jas

Here's another memo you didn't get.  Just did a search on L.A. CL a few minutes ago for "t4m tranny" and found not one or two but dozens of posts, same for "t4m shemale."  These are "transgendered girls" who are advertising themselves as "tranny" and "shemale."  You're certainly entitled to take offense at these terms but it's clear that a large number of working girls don't.

"Actually, no offense was taken as my message(s) are intended for guys on this sitee who are here to have fun, learn a little and more importantly, love a little."

So you prefaced your reply with the red angry face because you were not offended?  I don't believe that.  I do believe however after re-reading your post that there was a tone of sarcasm regarding the use of 'community' and the error there is mine.

Negative connotations on words do require a history, otherwise there can be no such thing as a connotation to the word.  The word has to accumulate a history of use for diminishment otherwise it's meaning is only literal, so I stand by that statement.  Perhaps there are volumes of people offended by the term, but I categorize those people with 'checkout clerks' that need a false sense of prestige offered by the job title, 'sales associate'.  My feeling is that offense to a label often is rooted in the listener's lack of self esteem or insecurity about themselves otherwise that person would not need to hear what they want to hear to validate their status in the eyes of others.

I called you a PC prostitute because that is what you are.  You sell yourself for money which makes you a prostitute.  I use the acronym PC to mean 'Politically Correct' because you are trying to control the terminology used by people which is the process of political correcting.  It is also used to describe Jamie as she went so far as to type a politically correct dictionary of trans-terms.

Truthfully you have no idea what I think of prostitutes.  You claim I have disdain for prostitutes and sex for pay and have clearly defined it, yet I have not done that anywhere in any posts.  I challenge you to present your evidence.  If the keystone argument you have is that I presently choose to watch porn online for sexual gratification, that is a weak case.  You have only evidence to the fact that I watch porn and think escorts too expensive for me and I have no idea how that is negativity against prostitutes.  I've hired several prostitutes in the past and have reviewed most of the girls positively.  I've taken time to help promote the girls I thought admirable in performance.  I have no disdain for prostitutes.  I've dated three in my personal life and have done it myself.  

Truly I don't see what your 'tolerance' to my opinions has to do with anything.   I don't post looking for your approval.  I usually post because I'm opinionated about certain items that arise on this board.  Our lives do not overlap anywhere except on this board.  You have no administrative power here and neither do I.  Your lack of tolerance to a differing opinion is your problem, not mine.

"I dont speak to men that try and minimize who we are. I am not interested in men who debate whether or not a provider's services are worth more than investing in a good dvd player and a stack of porn, as you have suggested in a previous post. I am here to have fun..."

I disagree.  You accuse me of minimizing prostitutes, yet continue to post retorts to me ad infinitum.  My feeling is you are very opinionated and want your opinions recognized as you feel it to be a source of personal strength and part of your identity.  If you chose to call my differing opinion minimization, so be it.