A very good post. I think I make as many posts on this board as any hobbyist. Many of the TS are bashed both deservadly so and not.
A couple of times, but not too many, I have seen a TS response and more often than not, I scratch my head unable to figure out why they wrote what they wrote.
Bottom line is that the TS providers virtually never respond to the criticisms that are wrote here. I would welcome their point of view on things if they are writen inteligently.
My view is the following:
1) Many of the TS providers aren't computer literate like a previous poster said. On the eros ads, VERY few have email addresses listed.
2) Many (not all) of the bad ones who are justifiably knocked don't give a crap so that's why they don't respond even if they can.
3) The good TS providers were are knocked unjustifiably who can respond are most likely disgusted with the unjust criticism or just don't don't want to take the time to get into it with these guys.
Well, I provided some food for thought. I would love to hear some views, especially from the NYC providers. There are only about 120 ads posted on eros, never mind the other sites, Screw, the Village Voice ectt.
OK I was just wondering why so few TS providers ever particapate on these boards, but yet so many make sure they paste up when they are visiting a city?
I would love to see more threads that have something more than just people seeking or posting they are visiting. Is it just me, or would more of you guys like to see the same? I mean this is such a great forum we have at our disposal here (thanks to staff), and we kinda don't use it to better our part of the hobby.
I would love to hear some of your thoughts guys.....and other TS providers.
Love Kylies!!!
I wish there was more imput from the providers as well.
I know alot of the gurls know about the reviews and it seems that many post reviews for themselves. (I am always suspicious when a good review comes from an enthustiast with only one review.)
I know that this forum has done alot for the guys (bi-curious or bi-scared) out there that were afraid to ask others what they do or don't do with the transgendered. I am sure there are alot of guys out there relieved that there are others like themselves out there. I know that the knowing helps to lessen the alienation felt by many who partake or just lust in secret.
This is a great opportunity to know the other. I know that many of the posts from Kylie and the few others have given me insights to having a better experience.
Maybe it is because of the anonymity that we enjoy that would not be shared with the provider that has a website listed. Maybe there is fear of LE using this board to gather info that may be used against you. Maybe they just don't care.
Thank you Kylie for your imput and insight. I hope that others will take your lead and participate.
I think the main reason that the girls do not interact here or on other boards is that the guys make this scene too much of a "supermarket ". Different people view the same thing in different ways. How can anyone make a review that really describes a girl - tha is only his personal experience, not that of someone else. Also, we are not a 7-11, with a list of specific services and a price list. As you guys say, YMMV. So does what you get for what you pay.
The chemistry between people is part of the game. If a tgirl is totally business and impersonal, but professional, she gets reviewed as cold. But if a tgirl is more personal in her dealing with a client, the experience will vary from guy to guy because of personal rapport.
You guys all seem to want that GFE experience. You cannot expect to get the same that someone else gets. How about if a guy comes over, is unclean, breath smells, etc. Maybe he is rough and pushy. You all expect that we are just Barbie dolls that you can wind up and get the same thing out of every time. Sorry, does not work that way.
Back to your original thread Kylies - some girls do not want to deal with the negativity that can come from these boards, but most girls are not computer literate either. Many of my friends hate the invasion of privacy from someone posting the intimate and private details of an encounter - amd then adding BS details.
Oh, final thought. What about the problem of some of the guys who just post up false and very negative reviews of someone just for spite? That alone can cost us $$$. There are pluses and minuses to sites such as this.
For me, I normally do not post anywhere, but you hit a chord and I figured I would drop my two cents worth in here.
U made some good points there TSDIEHARD i usually dont post reviews., but i had seen BAD REVIEWS of shemales i been with in the past, and i just couldnt believe she had a bad review! so i do talk to some t girls about it., most in generaL seem to dislike reviews., they also said SUCH THINGS AS"UNFORTUNATELY THE HOT LOOKING GUYS I MET AND HAD A GREAT TIME WITH DONT WRITE REVIEWS" they mention how some guys are just PLAIN unattractive! how they wanna get into deep kissing and foreplay and how hard this job can be at times., i think it would be a good idea when posting a review if the reviwer would describe (honest) little details about their general appereance including age, cock size and weight. i think that way we could understand why "SHE" rush him out a little! or why she was not functional and why she got an "I SHOULD HAVE STAY HOME" rating in Performance. let's face it we only get to hear one side of the story., too bad theres no way the girls can post a picture of her clients for us to understand WHAT REALLY HAPPENED I GUESS im a lucky guy in all my years of hiring escorts i had never felt rush! i do believe girls enjoy my company my equipment and the things i do to them...i will post my review of ts Maui soon! and would be a good one... My advise here would be DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ! TAKE YOUR CHANCES AND CHOOSE THE ONE YOU LIKE! AND IF YOU ARE CONFIDENT THAT YOU ARE A GOOD LOOKING MAN AND A GOOD LOVER! TRUST ME YOU ARE KNOCKING 4 A GOOD TIME. GIRLS DONT JUST LUV MONEY THEY LUV HOT MEN AS WELL.
Thanks tsdiehard for making some really great observations.
Yes it is true that this board is treated like a 7/11 market, but we do have the power to change things here. I mean all the other boards do the same thing as well (hence the reason girl next door is always reminding providers how to post ads) but they also invoke some and I mean "some" intelligent conversation and points to the hobby, as well as a good flameing once in awhile of things. That is what I would love to see here as well.
Now to the point of Chemistry, and reviews. Well if a T Girl is business like, and impersonal and she gets reviewed that way, well then she is being reviewed no differn't than any GG provider who does the same thing and I do not see the problem there? No matter if a provider is GG or TS if she advertises a total GFE that is the way she should conduct herself in her meetings,or take down the GFE guise. I personaly have guys come over here kinda stinky or bad breath and I always have one of my bathrooms set up for him to take a shower, and I have mouth wash,deoderant(for men) and cologne so he can shower and all. In most cases he never refuses and we always have the type of session that brings foreward good reviews.
OK now the negativity...........YIKES!
This one hurts oh so much! ALL transgendered people go through to much of this BS everyday of their lives and it is a real shame that it happens. BUT! One of the things you learn early on in your transition or what ever you do is the point........People are going to be basterds!! No matter what! The road you are going down is going to be the toughest road you will ever travel. So either accept that fact, or stay where you are at and be misserable there.
I have been flamed so many times on boards, that now it is starting to get a bit easier. But truth is.......it still hurts.
As far as the reviews go. Well that is part of any provider that gets reviewed? I mean GGs have the same points wrote about them, so I guess they need to put up with the same detals as well as us? If a provider does not want to have herself reviewed, all she has to do is contact staff and have herself delisted. Then there will be no more reviews on her again.
OK Bad reviews..........I have been very fortunate that only one guy wrote a fake review on me that was less than favourable, and once again if that happens......CONTACT STAFF! That is what I did and they looked at the review, saw the anomalies in it and took it down imediatly.
I know I always sound so PRO-TER, but the truth is..I AM! I think this site helps the guys find what they are looking for if they do their home work. And for us providers it is a very useful tool if we just look from time to time at our reviews,and make sure things are corect.If a girl can become a VIP (like me) she has so much more power to earn as well.
I am no way computer savy, but I don't think you need to be to navagate the internet, nor do you need to own a computer to be part of this comunity here.
OK I rattled on way to much I know. I would just love to see maybe more input from some of the admireers as well as the providers here, instead of just all the SUPPER MARKET banter that proliferates this board everyday. But here again that is my .02 worth as well.
So you really think is worth asking those stinky guys to shower? if those guys smell most likely they could have an STD ., when u talk about GFE are YOU including DFK? i mean do u get into all of this with every guy you met? i love transsexuals but i m not into kissing not because i dont want to but because is not what you call safe! i think u have class Kylie (looking at your pics) u are better off asking these guys to leave! or even if you choose to do what you doing., (letting these guys shower ) just remember you are worth much more than what these dirty men had giving you! if you are giving too much to a bunch of strangers in the end you might end up with nothing for yourself and the emotional scars would stay there forever! in my personal point of view does not bother me when a girl acts business like., after all thats what it is BUSINESS!!! im not looking 4 affection or love. im looking to get off! and i do... and as soon as i'm done im out the door., most of the times never to return even if that experience was GREAT! AND ONE QUESTION! as the female that you are now., how do you separate your emotions from your GFE sessions? or is it pure acting i guess it must be hard dealing with guys who are not really your type! and who sometimes even after they brushed their teeth still have dog breath. have you ever denied service to anyone?... or do you always put yourself into uncomfortable situations for the money they had payed you? it just seems unreal. i had always admire your photos on eros the reason why i never called you is that i'm more into pre-ops! but i must admit you are one good looking lady! so dont put yourself down by dealing with whimps, there is one thing called pride., take care of your sweet self Kylie. H.B.
HB Thankyou for your sweet compliments!
I am careful when I screen clients, and yes there have been a few times I have turned people away, based on the very facts you mentioned. I have traveled to far down this rocky road to get to where I am at, not to fall victim to STDs now, nor do I want to be hurt physicly in any way. But that said this is a risky business no matter how careful a provider/hobbyst is.
I do love being a GFE, and if I ever get tired of the way I conduct things I would redo the ads I have. Is being a GFE all a big act? NO I don't think so at all. I truly love to have the room set, the wine poured, me wearing something that a man would fancy me in, and just really enjoying time spent together making lasting memories. I personaly don't like the wham bam sessions. Those are harder on me then when I am able to turn on the charm, and really be intamate with someone.
One thing I always do, or try to do. Is find the beauty in everyone that see's me. I know I am naive in many ways.......but there is good to most people. And since we are called "Providers" I take it to a personal level where I feel I am doing something worth while.
I know I sound nutty, but that is what I am all about, and I really do enjoy my self probably 80% of the time. I do have pride in myself, in the way I try to conduct myself.
I think it has to do with the delay of having your post reviewed.
If I read a post then reply, my post does not get put up for at least a day.
By the time some one reads and posts a reply it is two days later.
By that time I have lost interest in the topic.
Also most forums will move the latest reply to the top of the forum thereby showing the topics everyone cares about. How many times has someone asked about TS bars in LA? At least a hundred it seems. There is no way to search a topic etc, other than browsing the pages.
Just click on the "Find Message" button in the bottom left corner of your screen, and enter keywords (such as "TS bars LA") and specify a time frame (the default is 30 days, but you can go way back). Good luck!
A very good post. I think I make as many posts on this board as any hobbyist. Many of the TS are bashed both deservadly so and not.
A couple of times, but not too many, I have seen a TS response and more often than not, I scratch my head unable to figure out why they wrote what they wrote.
Bottom line is that the TS providers virtually never respond to the criticisms that are wrote here. I would welcome their point of view on things if they are writen inteligently.
My view is the following:
1) Many of the TS providers aren't computer literate like a previous poster said. On the eros ads, VERY few have email addresses listed.
2) Many (not all) of the bad ones who are justifiably knocked don't give a crap so that's why they don't respond even if they can.
3) The good TS providers were are knocked unjustifiably who can respond are most likely disgusted with the unjust criticism or just don't don't want to take the time to get into it with these guys.
Well, I provided some food for thought. I would love to hear some views, especially from the NYC providers. There are only about 120 ads posted on eros, never mind the other sites, Screw, the Village Voice ectt.