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Re:TS/GG conflict?
LAtenfour 48 Reviews 9766 reads
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I had a very positive review of a very popular PSE here in los angeles removed because the provider didn't want to be known for seeing hobbyists who saw TS providers as well. Also,  about a year ago I posted just a comment about a GG provider and got several responses of "look out" pointing out that this GG provider might be 'spoiled goods' because a hobbyist who enjoys a wider scope of provider had dared to say he wanted to do her. So, I no longer review my GG providers nor do I comment on those (100's) I've seen over the years. Playing safe is playing safe, whatever the genitalia might be. Period.

I see that many contributors to this board including myself see both ts and gg providers. I was wondering if the gg providers would have second thoughts about seeing a hobbyist who frequents ts providers? This post is not meant to offend anyone. I just would not discuss this subject with any of my gg providers for fear that they would not approve and stop seeing me. Any thoughts people?

TS Star8490 reads

I've heard that before too.  I'm not sure I understand why GG's feel that way.   Do they think they are more likely to catch something from someone who sees both?   Or does it threaten them somehow?  Or do they not like TS's because the feel TS's take away some of their business?

I don't know.

cruiser17084 reads

A variation of this point has been brought up before on one of the other boards.  The difference was that a hobbyist had concerns about seeing GG providers who had customers whose reviews included TS providers.

OK I have actually participated in quite a few of these discussions about this very topic. Some providers out there (GG ones) feel that if a gentleman see's a TS provider there is a greater chance for HIV or? and the reason behind that is that many people out side of the TS world feel that all TSs are gay guys with boobs. MANY MANY uneducated people out there. I know a very popular GG provider in Vegas that would turn perspective clients away if she looked at his reviews, and saw a TS in the review colum. It really has nothing to do with GGs being jelous or any thing like that, it is mearly some people have not a clue as to the workings of a TS, and are worried about contracting HIV for the most part. The problem with this mentality is the fact that so many providers see BI hobbyst, and all kinds of weird fetish dudes. When they fail to see the reality here they actually put themselves in a higher risk catagory, by thinking they are safe.
Personaly when you look at any high mielage girl (be it GG or TS) there will be a higher percentage rate of risk there. So it does not just belong to the TS women as some with blinders would like to think.
So in conclusion....... "I LOVE SAYING THAT"
Please please play safe no matter what you do!

Cheers!
Kylie

TS Star10524 reads

Awesome post, Kylie.  I had a sneaky feeling it had something to do with that, but hearing it from you really confirms that.  You put it into words very well.

Thanks Star! OH! and by the way I want to see you Friday night at Peanuts. I will be in LA a week from today Wed, and I want to stay up there till Sat morning. Just so I can meet you! :-)
I have not been to 7969 in sooooooooo soooooooo long!

Cheers!
Kyliesd

Great post, Kylie.  Your point about "high mileage=high risk" is true for providers and clients.  

There are some other complicating factors...

1) While I generally find TG providers to be even more health conscious than the GG providers, there are some significant exceptions.  I've also met many tgirls that are very conscious of their health but are willing to engage in behavior that is risky to me.  For example, in my experience, the vast majority of tgirls will insist on condoms when giving head but are far more liberal when receiving.  More signficantly, while I've almost never met a tgirl who would swallow, I've met many girls that are willing to come in my mouth (personally, I'd never do it, but its offered alot).

2) This is exacerbated when you consider that there are more things that TGs can do with men to put men at risk than GGs can do.  Specifically, TGs can do a few high risk things that GG's can't: penetrate anally, ejaculate directly in mouth. So, unsafe activities by TG's if probably more troublesome than unsafe activities by GGs.  

I don't want to even start thinking about how this applies to post ops, although instinct tells me its not applicable at all.  

This is sorta stream of consciousness for me, so if I've said something stupid or offensive, please forgive (and respond).

-- Modified on 6/16/2004 9:58:52 AM

I had a very positive review of a very popular PSE here in los angeles removed because the provider didn't want to be known for seeing hobbyists who saw TS providers as well. Also,  about a year ago I posted just a comment about a GG provider and got several responses of "look out" pointing out that this GG provider might be 'spoiled goods' because a hobbyist who enjoys a wider scope of provider had dared to say he wanted to do her. So, I no longer review my GG providers nor do I comment on those (100's) I've seen over the years. Playing safe is playing safe, whatever the genitalia might be. Period.

I posted a request for a recommendation on the LA board and several people responded and then one responded that I had seen many TS providers and shouldn't everybody think twice before giving me a recommendation on their favorite provider.  I thought that was rather short-sided but I figured I wasn't going to change anyone's mind so I didn't respond after that.  I now post with an alias in the other boards.

I agree it is about safety whether GG or TS. While TER is an awesome resource, the best in my opinion, I'd still venture to guess that a small percentage of hobbyists even use TER or other boards and fly under the radar anyhow. I use to, but no longer hide and it is what it is. If someone doesnt want to see me based on who Ive seen thats their choice. Im not going to lose sleep. Ive only been with one TS and it was perhaps the best encounter I've had with anyone (TS RUBY) Safety was used throughout. Im thinking as I write this that GG hobbyists who will see providers who only BBBJ and hobbyists who perform DATY do not have much validity to their complaints anyhow. Even with protection there is inherent risks, however, without protection??? you figure it out. Have fun and play safe.

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