I am not demeaning post-ops, I know that many of our finest providers have a true desire to whack it off and live the rest of their lives as a woman.  But, if I wanted a non-functional, penis-less, TS.... why not just go for a woman?  Is it the attitude?  What is the attraction?  Providers are welcome to respond too.... my worry would be seeing a Post-Op and getting the same "up yours" attitude of some of the Pre-Op providers (not all, of course!) or my ex-wives....

Possibly the difference and since they once hade one they know first hand what feels good. i for one like pre-op because it is so unique. I can remember the first time i was attracted it was a cartoon in an underground comic. I the time i was unaware that these godesses existed. What a rush when I stumbled onto a  TS website. The reat is history. Possible Pos op is just another fantisy or fetish. Let them eat cake or pie who cares.

Because Amanda Lepore rules our universe and she so commands.  We are lucky to be ruled by her,my friend. Now lets drink champagne in the morning, champagne in the evening, etc etc!!!  LOL Seriously all kidding aside, I like this question. Maybe we try it out once to compare it to the real thing?? Men are horny shits, face it. I can imagine somewhere on the internet there is a website forum dedicated to tree holes used for f&^%$ing. If theres a proportionate enough hole, assure yourself theres a man trying to stick his dick in it. Ive tried a postop once and thought "hmm, I cant tell a difference". But I wasnt changed in any way over the experience. I still prefer ladies and I still prefer TSs preop. Maybe the WHY lies in the attractiveness of the individual. After all, just how many guys here would bang Janet Reno if she had a dick and was a provider? I wouldnt. Then theres providers like Kylie in San Diego,I couldnt get enough of her sexiness. I`d want more.

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I think it is the opposite reason that a guy will say that he likes to see pre-op TS's but is not interested in the penis. That is that they are interested in seeing guys but are not interested in the penis. Does that make sense? I am not throwing stones because I live in a glass house too. I like the penis but don't like it attached to a male persona and that doesn't make sense to me either.

Judging by your post, you are relegating or reducing their(A TS) entire totality or being to simply what's between their legs. Naturally, my question to you must be, why don't you just go for a man if a functional cock is what you seem to be consummed by ? How would *you* explain your attraction to a beautiful woman with nice tits, great legs, and a cock to a hetero male friend for example ? It's just not that easy to explain, is it ?  

I don't think you are demeaning them as much as you are the fans of them, such as I consider myself being. They probably view you as one who thinks the world is flat. Why do some guys prefer big soft butts over smaller tighter ones, smaller tits over larger ones, big cocks over smaller ones, GGs over TSs, et all ? The reasons are boundless and those personal reasons are most likely immersed in everything from mystery, nuance, and subtleties, to a person's early childhood and life's experiences, and that defy simple explanations as do many things that we find attractive or fetish about do. Why are some men  attracted solely (No pun intented) to feet for example ? There is no definitive answer for their foot fetish, is there ?

I'm attracted to both pre-op and post-op TS women, but particularly post-op women, due to that alluring fact that they have become women by THEIR choice and lifelong strife, and not by what was ascribed to them by nature, nuture, society, or their culture, etc. Post-op women in particular, have obviously physically taken it to the ultimate enth level by ridding themselves of any and all semblences of how they entered this world with no possibility of ever turning back, and that's a HUGE turn-on to yours truly. It's that confidence in knowing who they are as women today that is part of their attractiveness and allure to me which I can't really explain entirely in this post. It's like they're telling the world, "I am woman, hear me roar!" and my imagination just reels at the thought as to the countless other ways they might express their affirmed womanhood. How do they express it in the bedroom, for example ? A not uncommon musing if that post-op happens to escort.
I could be wrong, but I see post-ops as being ones who recognize no bounds when it comes to manifesting their womanhood, and in ways that no pre-op or GG could possibly ever know or convey. Some are turned on by tattoos, an attraction I can't understand given I can't stand tattoos. I simply happen to be turned on by man-made pussies and the consummate beautiful women who own them. I hope to experience more in my life, as it's not about their cock, or their lack of one.  

... You're projecting attitude onto them too. What's that all about ?



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I had to go back and re-read my original question (and often a question is asked to stir discussion) to see what had sent you off the deep end.  I still don't think that I have demeaned either Post-Op TS ladies or their admirers.  I, in my limited mindset, asked what others saw in them.  You actually gave a very cogent response, somewhere in all the retaliation.  The confidence generated by their ultimate decision turns you on.  Maybe I will consider that next time I see an ad from a simply beautiful Post-Op.  Thank you for giving a real answer to the question.  I have only been visiting providers for about 18 months (though I have seen many during that time)... Maybe it's time to expand my horizons.

I have an old dear female friend who is way involved in Female Domination,feminizing, etc etc. You get the basics. She likes referring to post-ops as 'assimilated sisters'. Cute! "Resistance is futile,you will be assimilated"!! LOL I Love it!

Actually I've noticed more than one provider move her ad from "SPECIALTIES" to "PERSONALS" in the LAXPRESS weekly. after SRS.  Some times "Post-Op" will be in the ad, sometimes not.  Sometimes it will be mentioned, then eventually dropped.
My guess is that a few guys have seen "Post-Ops" and don't realize it.

What tirade are you talking about? If you want to attach a scream to a response, that's your call, but my response wasn't written in that tone, and I'm sorry to you or anyone who might have took it as such. I did think you went overboard by suggesting post-ops are likely to have an attitude.

People are people. Why attach a label to their person, it serves no purpose. I've met some very beautiful women who were post-op and it was who they were that made them attractive. I'm now seeing a GG that is also a great person. She is more than happy to strap-on a toy and top me just as the pre-op can do. It is how the person I'm with treats me and how I can relate to her that makes the date.

Some great, articulate responses so far. I usually lurk in the shadows, being new to this, but I have to put my two cents in. Having only encountered a post op two times, I must admit both were extremely sexy in a very confident manner. I had a great time with both and plan on seeing them again. Mila in S.F was my introduction and  of course Kylie in S.D. will always be my favorite. Thanks for all the great info for us newbies to absorb. I plan on making my first trip to Peanuts on July 18th.

where can you find them and are there any onthe east coast?  Also, this may sound ignorant, but my main attraction to a TS is that i love giving greek; is a post op less likely to speak that language?