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Re:Right to refuse service
kerinn 25 Reviews 5490 reads
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I think being a professional is one thing and you should always be professional.  But trying to make it with a guy who can't take a bath or wash his ass is another.  There are signs all over the United States that read, "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."  You would not or could not go into a five star restaurant after you just finished with the gym.  So why would you go see a girl who is in reality making money, but also making you feel good.  I agree that it is a two way street but if you see a TS and especially if you are a bottom, wash your ass.

highendts6511 reads

Why?
because we get way too many calls(usually useless calls and time wasters) and this is the only way to be private....you wouldn`t like to have some one else knocking on the door in the midle of your session...do you?

Please bring pen and paper to write the adress, as we do not want guys calling from downstairs asking
(insert name)..what is your aparment #?

Once again if you are a bottom be clean
It is a big turn off to lube some one up and before
even going inside get a funky smell.

If you have ten reviews and five of them
have under perfomance 6 and below
you must be unatractive or have poor hygine.

Let the girl know of any especific does and dont`s..we do not have a crystal ball.

If you are a regular and she does not remembers you when you call, do not get offended
we know too many Mikes, Steves,Marks, Seans and Jhons.......

I may not be liked by every one on this board
but at least i try to give some feed back

Thank you all

P.S if you write a review at least mention your height weight and age so the rest can get an idea
of YMMV.
Peace.
sorry about my poor grammar.



-- Modified on 12/19/2005 11:03:35 PM

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LAtenfour5298 reads

... and five of them have under perfomance 6 and below you must be unatractive or have poor hygine."

Really?

Well, I have 16 reviews with performance of 6 or below, so according to your theory I must be one stinky dogface! ;-)
Were you, perchance, one of my 6's? I've been trying to figure out who you were, so maybe this will narrow it down a bit for me. Obviously, you are NOT Angelica! LOL!

I for one have never disliked you (at least not your persona on this board - although it seems if we got together I was less than thrilled apparently) and I do appreciate that you 'give some feed back' but I think accusing tough reviewers such as myself of being dirty and ugly, well, I don't know...I kind of think "6" is an okay rating all things considered. I mean, what's wrong with "nice"?

Now I certainly can't speak for other hobbyists, but I ALWAYS shower and wear clean clothes before ANY encounter and it has often been my sad experience that the only platform presented for my fully-paid rendezvous is a soiled spread on a hotel bed or an uncovered sofa with perhaps a questionable towel thrown below my ass and more than once the provider failed to avail herself of her own facilities prior to a cigarette-breath attempt at a kiss or an unpleasantly indescribable whiff of ass, so I totally agree with the need for proper hygiene and think it be as important a two-way street as any telephonic method of contact!

And as for the "unattractive" part - well, being as I'm so tough on providers I guess at 5'11, 165, older than God and hung like a horse, I can stand a little negative criticism.  In the end beauty's still in the eye of the beholder, so I'll just have to leave it at that.

p.s.
If you ARE Angelica, we miss you and hope you're enjoying a pleasant holiday, despite the wreckage in new orleans.

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highendts3827 reads

Allen
When i said 5 out of ten i meant 50% of the reviews ...which is not your case!

I just got a review from a hobbyst who was lets say not very clean..... and just out of curiosity
i checked the rest of his reviews and most of them are poor...he was 5`9 200 pounds pushing 50
and a bottom with an ugly personality...and the smell.....THE SMELL!!!! was to turn any one off
I was polite and i tried my best as always, still i got a she just laid there performance

I`m not the beautiful Angelica(her reviews are down) I think......I wish her the best altough
we do not know each other....I was a friend of another beautiful LA provider but for the last six months she has being mean to me and viceversa
but that is another history!!

I wish the transgender "comunity" would be nicer to each other but in some cases it even ends in murder(Silvia boots).. fist fights at the yukon
among girls...

Happy holidays to you all!!!
Star i do not know who you are but i miss you...


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Angelica31920015440 reads

Ok I am going to eliminate the confusion so far, I am the authentic TS Angelica.  Red hair, green eyes, fair skin and tight figure few of you have come to adore.  At this time in my life I am doing other things, I have enjoyed meeting most of the men that I have came in contact with in this line of work.  Yet I also regret some of the bull shit I have had to tolerate.  I feel at this time in my life I am growing and I have done this for a little too long and now it is time for me to find a career path instead of constantly seeing people.  To tell you the truth I am exhausted and feel that I might need a clone, lol.  I just want to do something else and start building a career, I have met someone who has inspired me alot and I am in love with him.  So at this time I want to thank all of the gentlemen who have met with me and wish you the best in your further searches for that sexual fantasy you have.  It is time for me to be reborn, like the Phoenix from the ashes, I have died out for now but I will burn once again ever so bright.  To all my TS girlfriends I have made: Veronicka, Danielle Foxxx, Siagon Lee, Ruby, Gabby, Nadia, and Cameron; you are all dear and awesome to my heart, I will talk to you soon.  I wish everyone a Happy New Year and hope you do more in this year than you did in the last and reflect back on the good times, and forget the bad ones.  Ok I am outtie.
TTFN,
Angelica

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ssteveowens5785 reads

i only have one thing to say , if you are a professional it is YOUR job to impress and perform,we are the paying customer we dont have to impress YOU,i am allways clean and i am in shape but that should not matter, if i was 400+ pounds and looked like a burn victom you still should give your best effort and show the PAYING customer the time of his life, that is what a professional does!

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kerinn5491 reads

I think being a professional is one thing and you should always be professional.  But trying to make it with a guy who can't take a bath or wash his ass is another.  There are signs all over the United States that read, "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."  You would not or could not go into a five star restaurant after you just finished with the gym.  So why would you go see a girl who is in reality making money, but also making you feel good.  I agree that it is a two way street but if you see a TS and especially if you are a bottom, wash your ass.

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TS Star4875 reads

"i only have one thing to say , if you are a professional it is YOUR job to impress and perform,we are the paying customer we dont have to impress YOU,i am allways clean and i am in shape but that should not matter, if i was 400+ pounds and looked like a burn victom you still should give your best effort and show the PAYING customer the time of his life, that is what a professional does!"

And there should never be any traffic, no crime, no homeless people and there should be peace on earth.

I understand what you are saying, but really, when you are dealing with human beings, things just can't be as perfect or as consistant as you may wish them to be.  I think anyone with common sense would realize that they would get better service if they were clean, nice and polite.  Regardless of the fact that it is the provider's "job" to provide professional service.  However, as we all know, not everyone has common sense.

It SHOULD not matter if someone looks and smells like a monster, but be real, it has to have some effect no matter how hard the provider tries to please that person.  Providers are human beings with all the complexities that involves.  They are not unfeeling, mindless machines.  (Well, not for the most part anyway! LOL)  j/k


Highend, I don't think I know who you are either, but I enjoy reading your posts and you seem like a very cool girl.  :)

Merry Christmas, and Happy Holidays everybody!!!!!





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highendts3703 reads

Money doesn`t buy every thing and ssteveowens you know it!!!!!!!!
You offered more money to that 500 dollars escort and still she wouldn`t come for you!!

I only have one thing to say........!!!
If some % of hobbyst listen and arrive cleaner
i will be glad i spent time typing.

Merry christmas Star....we love you!!!!!





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Horizononfire6609 reads

People are paying you to perform as if you like them, not actually like them.  Everyone receives negative feedback when they fail to perform a task for which they are paid regardless of the extenuating circumstances.  You can't blame the customer for not liking you much like the customer cannot blame you for not liking them.  The difference is you are paid to make the customer feel as if you like them and in the specified reviewer's eyes you failed.

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TS Star5682 reads

I'm just saying that if you fail to take into account the "human being" factor, you may be setting yourself up for a less than perfect experience.  There is always what SHOULD be and what IS.  I SHOULD be able to walk down a dark city street at 3am without fear of being a crime victim, but I'm not going to try that.

Sure, as a paying customer, you can show up looking like you just came from a pig farm covered in slop.  But don't expect to be treated the same way as someone who shows up wearing clean clothes, looking and smelling nice.

The same would hold true for ANY business.  Walk into a Rolls-Royce dealer wearing a dirty Tee shirt and smelling like heck.  Then go again wearing a nice suit and looking and smelling clean.  I would bet you that you would be treated differently, even though they are in the business of selling cars and should treat eveyone the same way with the same amount of professionalism.

With escorting, things like that are taken into account even more.  It's a very intimate experience.  Smaller details are more noticable.  Smells, cleanliness, manners... they are important.

Hey, you can do what you want to do, but you are fooling yourselves if you think it doesn't matter how clean and how polite you are, IMO.  Why not try to do everything you can do to make it a great experience?   How difficult is that?








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ssteveowens5007 reads

just like great ball players, you have to run out the grounder at full speed even when you are down by 10 runs and there are 2 outs in the ninth,the difference between a great or ok provider is the great providers ARE machines , and about treating customers  by the way they look or dress is a big no no, i work in the casino industy and rule number 1 is dont judge a book by is cover !! half of the millionaries walking around a casino are in torn jeans and a tee shirt with messy hair!!

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highendts6057 reads

A casino is different!!!
If you want a girl friend experience
you will need to groom your self and take a shower have fresh breath
bad odors do not take any one any where .

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TS Star5062 reads

True.


Everybody stinks in those casinos!!!


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mikeman334958 reads

This is insane. I cant believe people are showing up smelling. Thats just disgusting. Any why would you say "its your job, youre the performer, you have to satisfy me!". Thats bull shit. Some of you just want to get laid, and some want GFE, well would you want your GF to think you smell like shit? Or even if youre out on the town and get some that night, you dont care if you smell bad?

Thats just silly. Clean yourselves up when you go to see a provider. If there is a provider that rejects smelly people, then I would love to see her.

Put yourself in someone elses shoes sometimes, it amazes me that some of the girls can still smile, and those who complain really shouldnt be calling providers.

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highendts4903 reads

Thank you:
there is no excuse for filthy people...especially
in this country where even the smallest modest place has a shower 24/ 7


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Horizononfire4830 reads

There are girls such as Venus in the review section that accumulate page upon page of 9 and 10's for performance ratings.  How does she do it?  Perhaps as a professional you need to find an answer to this question or simply come to grips with the fact that you have professional shortcomings that a high performer does not.  I can tell you one thing about Venus.  She does not come onto this message board blaming poor performances on unattractive, shit dripping customers.  I would gander she gets her fair share.  That speaks volumes about how you view your customers.

Your analogy regarding the Rolls-Royce dealership doesn't apply.  We are talking about a situation where you know you are getting paid.  If I walked into the dealership in a dirty t-shirt smelling like a goat and opened up a briefcase full of cash showing I'm there to buy I bet I would get VIP service.  The dealership's primary concern is that I am there to pay, not my scent or my shirt of choice.

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TS Star4305 reads

You're right, I don't know how Venus does it.  Perhaps she lets people treat her in ways that I would not allow.  Perhaps she has lower standards for other people or herself.  Perhaps she has a higher tolerance for crappy people.  Perhaps she will do things for money that I would not.  Perhaps she has lower self esteem than I do.  Perhaps I am more discriminating. It may very well be that she makes a lot more money than I do but I will not allow anyone to treat me with disrespect.  I admit, I know a lot of girls that will do things that I would never do.  You may view that as having professional shortcomings, but I view that as having self respect.  Being a professional doesn't mean you let people treat you in any way they want.  You have that confused with being a slave.  Besides, you have never seen any reviews of me so you don't really know what ratings I would get.

You failed to see what I was saying about the Rolls-Royce dealer.  If you walked into the place smelling and looking like a bum with a breifcase full of cash, yes, I'm sure they'd sell you a car.  If you walked in there wearing nice clothes and smelling nice and opened up a briefcase full of cash, I bet you'd get BETTER service.  That's all I was trying to say.  All customers being equal, the one that looks and acts like a decent person will probably get treated better.

And as I said before, I believe escorting is different than selling cars.  There is a difference between buying a car and buying an intimate experience with an escort, IMO.  (Although you may not think so.)  To put it another way, when I go to the dentist, I make sure my mouth is clean and that I flossed... even though I'm the paying customer... because it is a personal service.  I respect him enough to do that for him (even though I guess I don't have to) and I expect him to treat me with the same level of respect in return.

Regardless that escorting is a business transaction.  Regardless of who is paying.  I would expect a certain level of respect and would give that respect in return.

But as I said before, do what you want to do.  It really makes no difference to me.


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Horizononfire4239 reads

"You're right, I don't know how Venus does it..."

Yet you prattle on and on about how she could possibly, all in an insulting or self denigrating manner.  Why not accept the fact that she is good at what she does and commend her?

"Besides, you have never seen any reviews of me so you don't really know what ratings I would get."

Lower than Venus.

"And as I said before, I believe escorting is different than selling cars."

The analogy was yours, not mine.





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TS Star5421 reads

Here we go again...

YOU were the one that brought Venus into this.  Not me.  YOU were the one that asked me the question of how could it be.  I gave some POSSIBLE theories why.  I didn't say they were THE reasons.  Since you never mentioned a city, I don't even know who or what Venus you are talking about.  If you think she is the best, then I suggest you stick with her and reward her for her great service.   And if this will make you feel better... "I accept the fact that she is good (and by some accounts, even great) at what she does and I, for one, commend her."   (Whoever she is.)

Happy now?








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highendts5239 reads

Star:
Do not pay attention to this one
if you look back a few pages there is people who are even offering money for this nut case to take a vacation.........and on the other hand
many MANY!!! others, like your persona here........

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TS Star11921 reads

Thanks HighEnd,

I feel like the Invisible Girl and he's my Dr. Doom. :(  I was starting to think I was going crazy for a minute.  It's not rocket science.  LOL

To me it's just common sense and respect.  Treat people the way you'd like to be treated.  It's nice to see some of the guys here understand that.

To the rest, don't you even shower or wear clean underwear to the doctor's office???  Why would you do no less for a girl you want to be intimate and have a good time with?   It doesn't make sense.

Merry Christmas to you too, Highend.  xoxo   I wish I could figure out if I knew you.  


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larrygochanour4151 reads

Hi,
  I need clarification on what you mean by having ten reviews where performance in 6 and below. Does this mean the performance I see is due to my looks? Whew! I was worried for a moment. Maybe providers should have a note on their ads that say 'We reserve the right to refuse service to anybody'. One big question, why not let the guy know you don't like him before you take his money?

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highendts6840 reads

You are right on that one
I have done it ....and guess what?
they get offended!!!!!!

But we are talking about hygiene.

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LAtenfour4525 reads

...actually....what you said was "you must be unatractive or have poor hygine".  so you're not JUST "talking about hygiene". you're talking about excuses some girls use to not provide top-knotch service. These are excuses which can rightfully be used to REFUSE service, but are less reasonable when used to take the money and give the customer short shrift. If you can't stand them, then kick their asses out. Fake like you're about to vomit -- or maybe if they REALLY stink you won't even have to fake it! -- and they'll go.  But if you take their money you must give them what they've paid for.

I'm pretty sure I know which Venus was referred to above and she is absolutely awesome. And I doubt she tolerates anyone with bad hygiene. She probably makes them shower. Or sends them away. In which case they wouldn't be submitting reviews and thus she continues to get 9's and 10's.  

As for all the shmucks stupid enough to show up unclean and smelly, keep it up!!! It only reinforces how happy the providers are to see a clean, well-groomed and polite gentleman like myself appear at their door. Might even make up for how godawful ugly I am!

Flowers and chocolate help also, btw! ;-)

I'm just happy to be in a world where I need worry so little about the big potential dangers inherent in this hobby that I can spend time discussing a provider's desire to have a handsome client!  Ain't life grand! ;-)

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highendts3714 reads

That is exacly what i will do Allen
even if they drove from Palm Springs to LA

Or trow them in the shower!!!

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ssteveowens7761 reads

that is a no brainer, what i am talking about is giving less that great service because the hobbyist is not in great shape or very good looking,if they are dirty you should just refuse to provide them the service.

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davebr4727 reads

I do not agree with the blanket statement of if 50% of my reviews have 6 or under in performance that it must be me.  I have currently 13 reviews with 4 of them being 6 or below.  If I posted all of my sessions with providers that I have not reviewed I would be close to your 50% of negative reviews.  

I am 35, 165lbs 6'1" and I would like to think above average looking with very good hygene.

I think that you give too much credit that the majority of TS providers are going to provide what I think the majority here expect.  It honestly is a 50/50 coin toss if we get someone who is not going to rush us or actually be somewhat into the session.  If in fact the provider has a problem with a person's hygene or appearance they should just say I am sorry but I cannot see you right now due to an emergency and give their money back instead of getting a lack luster performance.  I somehow doubt any guy would post a review of something that never happened.  So that review would never go up.  If someone said on this board that hey I saw so and so and that bitch told me to leave.  Maybe others would understand that he needs a body wax and breath mints.

I commend you for sticking up for other providers but trust me there are others like myself to this day wonder "how the hell did this provider get such great reviews when I saw her just a few months back?"

BTW, I would really like to know who you are and if you can PM me perhaps we can get together.

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