Today, whilst doing my evening grocery shopping at my neighborhood Whole Foods, I bumped into (literally) TS Alexa, one of my favorite providers in Chicago.  She remembered me after a quick intro (its been probably a year since we last met) and we had a nice little chat.  She seemed a little uncomfortable about the whole thing (she's a shy girl in general) and I was in no position to do a quickie by the fish counter, so we kept it short and sweet.

It struck me as I was driving home that this is the first time I've seen a TS in her normal life other than when I've been out with one.  She looked even more feminine in normal life - no hooker garb, no showy makeup - than she does out at the bars.  Maybe for that reason I was 100%comfortable chatting her up and the store.  Anyway, it was a nice experience and I now know that we buy the same brand of black beans.

Anyone have any similar experiences to share or an opinion as to why I'm so intrigued by this?

TS Alexa is one of my favorites as well.  Part of it may be the fact that she is a favorite and seeing her in public is a great turn on.  Part of it may the the public vs. private/secret thing (you are out in public but you know Alexa's secret - which is one heck of a secret considering how hot she looks).  I have taken providers to dinner and there is also a thrill in being out in public with a beautiful woman that you know you will get naughty with later!

Funny I should read that tonight Answer.  I think what I went through today might say something about why you were affected by your chance encounter.
    I'm in Chicago myself - northwest suburbs actually.  This morning I called a fairly new girl on Chicago Eros.  Hot as hell looking as could be.  Anyway I called at 10 and left a message.  Pretty good message I'd say.  She called back at 11 and to my surprise I did a good job talking to her.  Made her laugh and everything.  She said she could be ready by 2.  I told her it would probably take me an hour to get down there (north side I assumed) and park.  So she said call her at 1 and I said cool.  So I called her at 1 and some other chick answered her phone (a cell phone) and got her for me.  She said she had to go downtown first and I said maybe another day might be better.  She said no she'd be back.  She even had me call her from my cell (I had used my home before) so she would have my number stored so she could call me when she got home.  I told her in the meantime I'd tool my way down into the city.
    Anyway at 3:30 after having sat in the McDonalds parking lot across from Wrigley since 1:45 waiting for the call,  I said fuck this.  But I called her to let her know I was heading home and maybe some other time.  This time some guy answered her phone and got her for me.  I politely told her some other time.
    Why was meeting Alexa at Whole Foods so cool?  Probably because it was so damn normal.

Great topic.  Certainly one that invites discussion far better than the lame-o one I posted a couple of days ago.

I had a similar experience at a department store.  There was a flash of recognition, some eye contact that made conversation unavoidable since our "meeting", which was an excellent, personable one, wasn't that long ago, a brief chat which I was very comfortable with and pleased to have but which she seemed a bit bashful about engaging in (more in a sweet than bitchy way).  I also left with a similar feeling of warmth but also slight confusion over what just happened.  

I've explained the incident to myself the following way, as a bringing into contact of two different worlds of mine: the world of what I guess we call our "hobby" and everything that it represents (pansexualism, adventurousness, curiosity, etc.) which is a very private world for me, and the world of our public personas where we shop for clothing and groceries.  Mind you, this meeting of two different spheres of existence, private and public, wasn't some sort of ugly collision.  For me, it was perhaps something of a liberation - to have those two worlds or even sides of my personality be understood and reconciled with each other, if only for the duration of that chat in housewares.  There's no shame for me being seen as a "tranny lover" since she knows how much real lust and appreciation I had for her.  On the other hand, I can see how for her there may have been some shyness before having a similar feeling of reconciliation between private and public selves.  In the public realm, she wants what her physical appearance conveys to be wholeheartedly accepted as truth: she is a woman in every respect.  But before me, that premise can't be sustained - which is FINE since I greatly appreciate "something extra".  

That's my two cents, for what they are worth...

The first time I was ever in a normal life situation with a Tgirl happened unexpectedly as well, but in a different way.  

At the end of our second or third session this girl, who shall remain nameless as she no longer advertises, came back into the room, laid down next to me, and told me she needed to go pay a friend some money she owed.  As I was getting up to get dressed, she asked me if I'd like to come along.  I was a bit taken aback that she would ask me, since she was an escort and I was her client.  But somehow it felt right.  Probably because we had hit it off from the moment we met.  So, I went.

She drove and told me some things about herself.  When we got where we were going, she cuddled up next to me on the couch and introduced me as her husband.  I knew she was playing, but it was fun and felt good.  We went to the gas station and she paid, I pumped, she got the change, I washed the windows and off we went.  Just like any other couple.  We stopped and got tacos to take back to her place and stood on the street hugging and kissing while waiting for our food.

It was a liberating experience.  I found that I had no fear and felt completely comfortable with her.  I think the thing that really made it was the feeling of acceptance I got from her.  I didn't feel like a client.  I felt like I was hanging out with someone I knew much better than I really did.  She's still a very special person to me and holds a dear place in my heart.

I think the thing that makes these types of experiences so intriguing is that they take us deeper into the reality of these girls.  Most of us here are attracted to Tgirls for reasons that go beyond sex.  To feel connected to a girl in her real life is to see her as more than just a sex object.

Man, what a shitty story.  Care to disclose which provider put you throught this crap?

BTW: Why not pop into Bar Louie for a cocktail rather than the Wrigley McDonalds?

okay, here is my two cents. everyone has spoken fondly of the unplanned public connection with a past t-girl escort. each of you also mention the prior escort session was good or better. it is greatly significant no one waxed fondly about seeing a t-girl rip-off selecting produce next to them. you had a good very controlled encounter where both parties know and accept the terms of the relationship as provider and client. the chance meeting broadened the controlled past relationship terms just slightly and briefly. technically the chance meeting violates those terms but it is acceptable since it is truly just by chance. hey, whole foods is a family kind of public place. the secret nature just adds to the entrigue and i bet the smile you carried all the way from the fish counter to your car. simply put, you both shared a happy little, mostly taboo, secret in the light of the day. that can be liberating, if just for a moment!

Damn you know your shit.  I was looking down across Clark and Addison at the Bar Louie sign thinking about it.  But I decided not to for the same reason I finally got out of there - the drive 20 miles northwest in the traffic.
    As far as mentioning her name?  I don't know.  I mean she was really nice in the morning on the first call.  Maybe she had her reasons.  The last call she did say she just got home.  Strange how the guy answered her phone though.
    Well hell.  The story didn't end too bad.  After gettin' home and going to Shemaleyum and whacking off to Sapphire (gallery 17) and Bea (gallery 58) I thought to myself "hey you saved $250."  Kinda like breaking even at the track.  So I went to my local watering hole and had a nice supper and six cold ones and left this pretty gal tending bar a generous tip.

I ran into two tgirls from Chicago while at the Buzz one night in downtown Chicago.  For the life of me, I forgot their names considering they have not advertised in over 2 years.  Both tgirls at the time had their SRS.  I did not have the guts to go up and talk to them at the time, but they were both smoking hot.  I asked my friend what he thought of the women and he told me that they were too tall for him, but he did not know their secret like I did.  That night they had a bunch of guys talking to them and buying them drinks even though they alone by themselves.

Just my .02 worth....

My girlfriend is both a TS and an active provider...she is reasonably well known to residents of this board, and through me has met a couple of the more experienced posters here.

Her goals in life (which I am going to help her achieve), are to go through SRS, have a career (she is VERY well-educated), find a great guy, get married, and otherwise blend into the community as a normal human being.

To say she is "passable" is an insult... she is more feminine (and more of a woman) than 99% of genetic girls out there.
When we are together, she draws men's eyes but her "status" is between us and no one else.

The question that SHOULD be asked is: why shouldn't a t-girl
(or TS provider) aspire to and achieve the same things as anyone else? I am positive that there are MANY girls that have managed to make the transition to normal life and with my friend this is what I want for her..... even if it costs me our relationship.

As a friend and lover, my first (and only) obligation to her is to help her achieve what she wants out of life...putting my own feelings for her aside if I must, and above all not standing in her way....

Just my .02 worth...

TA

The only times I have met gurls in public places, by accident, has been in clubs. The only times I have been out in public with gurls has been intentional. I went to dinners and to run errands with a few and I have to say that there was an exhilaration knowing what many of the oglers didn't know.
I took one gurl to a favorite restaurant of mine and we enjoyed dinner. This was an impromptu thing and she was dressed like a hooker. She attracted many looks from men and gawks from women. I noticed even the owner of the restaurant eyeing her up. I excused myself and went to the restroom and he managed to catch me on my way back. Now he has seen my wife and I eat there before and asked me if she was a girlfriend. I don't know what came over me but I responded that no he was a boyfriend. His jaw dropped and I left him there dumbfounded. I went back and told my friend what I had done and she laughed and said give him my number if he asks.

I once had a "real life" siting of a girl that advertises, but whom I've never been with, and strangely, it was almost like a celebrity siting.....the one time I bumped into a girl who I have been with, I also got that cool feeling talked about above...it happened to be in a place where no one would know me so I felt comfortable not being outed, (I know I need to work on that), I also was checking to see if she preferred to remain anonymous, but she didn't, so we chatted...and there is something about seeing someone that you've shared intimacy with, even if it was as a client, in an everyday context and just shooting the breeze, because you both are subconciously thinking about the sex....however, if I bumped into someone closer to home, I'd rather we both play it cool and not acknowledge each other..sad but true

to have a T Girl for  a girlfriend!  No more bitching about the fucking toilet seat being up; No snide comments when you wanna walk around and scratch your nuts, belch and fart. Wanna drink the milk straight outta the container?  I bet its no fuckin sweat when you love a T Girl. Wanna go shoot some pool, watch a game, hang with the guys? You know she's gonna' be down with that 'cuz she understands!  Way to go Aviator.  As I recall from your readings you also own a Beech?  You are the man!

Bonerowner, I must say you most certainly do NOT have a single clue! We are girls , you dummy! Most Tgirls do not understand one single thing about boys, not one! They grew up as girls in a man's body. NOT sports, NOT toilet seat up! You are just why most Tgirls do not have boyfriends. No respect, no treating us as women. You need some more schooling! Put on your dunce cap and sit in the corner!

This is a few years back when the Queen Mary was the place... I had been there a few times, and seen the show once, but spent most of my time in the back bar along with the other regulars.  But I use to see the girls in the show running back into and out of the dressing room.  There was one who I had a crush on, but was a little shy about approaching.  So, I never did.

Then one day I was shopping in the Studio City area, and I ran into her.  She was dressed in jeans, sandals, and a nice t-top.  Light makeup and looked even better than she does in the shows.  We recognized each other, said hi, and started a conversation.  After about 20 mintues or so I build up the nerve and ask her out for dinner the following night.

I picked her up, we had a great meal and even better conversation.  Obviously she was very intelligent and it only fueled my desire for her.  From there, we went to a couple of bars and had a few drinks and carried on our conversation.  She was from Hawaii and I am a surfer, so we loved talking about the Island.

Well, I end up at her place for the night, and we actually started dating.  I met her brother who was visiting.  I still look back on this experience as one of the best in my life and I am looking for a similar one.

Thanks for sending me the link to your picture so I could at least jack off while I was sitting in the corner.

susanna:

Right on girl! I don't know what "owner" was thinking but
as you know my GF is a TS and she is NOT a guy..she's ALL WOMAN
and I am very fortunate to have her in my life. She is my lover and girlfriend and I wouldn't dream of treating her any differently than if she were a genetic girl. She has met many of my friends (including some posters on this board) and the ones not in on "the secret" would never guess it in a million years!

AS for being understanding of "guy" things..she is very "understanding"...i.e. where are you going, what are you doing, what time will you be back, etc.etc.....typical woman, but I love her very much anyway...

I have always fantasized what it would be like to really date a good-looking TS, and not have to pay her for sex.  Unfortunately, I am no longer the skinny stud of my youth, I am now a balding, overweight 50 year old with little funny-looking things growing under my armpits, who can hardly get it up any more.

I hope that someday I will be able to afford to go to:

http://www.tsvictoria.com/index.html

She seems like a person who likes to take her time and make it a memorable experience.  I sent her a link to an article I wrote for Urnotalone.com, called "Conflicted," and she wrote back to me, as did Tara Emory when I showed it to her.

http://www.tara-ts.com/front.html

I know I am kind of getting off the topic - in answer to your question, I have never run into any providers in my daily walking life.

for the one that said something about the toilet seat, milk and yada yada yada i am not sure if you have actually spent any personal time with tgirls, one thing i enjoy most about clients and especially new ones is when i hear from them were not much different than there other dates lol, the only inside track many tgirls have on what most men enjoy is what we know of from dating them and seeing how they behave when we were younger, inside track would be that we can catch you in the little white lies that guys tell all the time a bit faster lol and to the ones i have read about running into us in public, it is strange for both parties as i have encountered it a few times and when you guys notice or say some look alot better in real life is simple, you expect someone sexy and hot, date night look, but alot of guys i know love the "not made up look" i personally get more looks and guys turning heads when i am out and about in jeans and simple tank tops lol.