anyone have any experience/thoughts about falling in love with or actually dating tgirl escort?  total disaster?  guaranteed hustle?  just a dumb guy getting conned? or a path to true love?  advice and/or stories appreciated ....

Tried it.  It wasn't a disaster, but didn't work.  The effect of falling for someone is always case specific though and not gender specific.  From my perspective the escort has more to lose as you are now geting for free what you were originally getting for pay.  If it fails, she's out income and a lover.  If it fails you just move on to another escort.  The hustler is generally going to be the former customer, not the escort.

Cap here. C'mon. Kind of a cynical view wouldn't you say? Here we go. Okay girls, this means do not date anyone, it will never, ever work. You have no chance for happiness or anything that remotely resembles a normal life. No one has, or even can, love you for being you. Forgetaboudit. They are just hustling you. Take it from me and all my horrible life experiences. So face it, you can never find happiness. Give up that tired old dream. Whew, that was tiring, made me thirsty. Gotta go refill my glass first. It's half empty!

...  you need to re-read my reply.  I stated that all relationships need to be analyzed on a case by case basis and you need to avoid overgeneralizing people's behaviors by attributing traits to specific genders.  ie. not all Transsexual escorts are the same.  If anything the original poster is cynical.  He fears that all TS escorts are out to dupe him.  My reply states that the escort always has the most to lose when taking a client as a lover as taking a former paying client on as a lover for free damages her income.  The former client however now gets for free what he would pay for in the past.  The former client may have genuine feelings toward the escort, but he takes no risk by becoming her lover.  The risk is entirely borne by the escort.  

Perhaps you can twist my view to be cynical when you drop the entire concept explored and only focus on a tiny fraction.  

The true cynicism I have regarding any type of relationship is that all people have a motive.  You need to determine the true motive of anyone you deal with in society and people are not always forthcoming with that motive.  In fact to take that a step further, some people are able to deny their own motives to themselves and that makes them the most effective type of con artist.  It is easy to make someone believe your con when you consciously believe it yourself.  

Look at your own cynicism.  You're the pot calling the kettle black.  You overgeneralize and imply that a TS escort cannot find happiness without a man in her life.  Ever consider that some TS's don't need a man to validate their existence?  Your entire post would lead me to believe otherwise as you never mention it as possible.  You draw conclusions about what a tortured life I've led when you know next to nothing about me as if you've seen it all CaptainHyypocrit.  Go have another drink.



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Nice. Not drinking today, too early. Re-read your own post, and the second one as well. Try as I might I cannot find one phrase that would indicate a positive outlook on any of the multiple subjects you touch on. Although your post is quite eloquent as always, and usually enjoyable to read (much like the Sunday comics), it does not detract from the obvious fact that unless you are refering to the lovely Jasmine, there's nothing I've ever read that reflects an optimists point of view. Take it like a man, or however you prefer it. You realy shouldn't get upset. We are who we are. Just like my feelings aren't hurt by references to my love of alcohol, your feelings shouldn't be hurt when someone points out your penchant for pontificating the view from the dark side. Obi One out.

Haven't dated a TS outside of the business but did have a great romantic relationship with a GG provider for several years... I started as a client and we got along so great it turned into  barter encounters(services for services) and later developed into a full blown relationship. She wanted me to move in but I didn't want to have to deal with her schedule and having to keep a low profile on incalls. It never bothered me that she humped for the benjamins, but the relationship did eventually go south (as many do). It had nothing to do with her occupation.

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as partial example.  Given your masterful command of sarcasm, you should be keen to know most of my posts are a caricature of 'the dark side'. You finger me a cynic, mock me for it, then attempt to prove your case by being a cynic and a bigot.  Hence you are not only a mockable cynic yourself, but also a hypocrite. I come clean and state my cynical bias and you hide behind some facade of being the defender of Tgirls and cannot even address the post directly at me, literary coward.  You make no 'points' about my penchant for negativity until I call you on you to take responsibility for your post. You can't refute what I said in the original post so you shift gears and manufacture some sinister image for me in a wide-sweeping attempt to denigrate me and invalidate my opinion.  You also used the glass 'half full/half empty' cliche to end your post and I suggested you go have another drink.  I never made reference to alcohol nor your dependence upon it.  You try to finalize the argument by implying that I should man up and not be upset which is yet another example of your hypocrisy.  If you are not upset, why do you reply to the posts?  Why don't you offer the original poster something with a bit more substance than a venom laced attack on me?

Fell for a provider, we started dating, she started taking estrogen and responded idiosyncratically.  She became indifferent to me, I grew tired of the indifference and gave up.

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Where you dating Venus?

TOO MUCH DOLLARS AND CENTS,,,,THE ESCORT IS NOT DEPENDING ON ONE CUSTOMER...SHE CAN JUST AS EASY MOVE ON....

If you had any real concept of how the escorting business is run, you would know a decent regular is gold.  She still lost income and the former customer did not, thus the escort still bears the greater risk while the former customer does not.  I also do not see how someone swindle you when they refuse to take your money.  I can however see how someone can swindle you when they stop giving you money.  If the escort can swindle what is the mechanism?  I'm not saying the escort wont move on, I'm saying that the escort bears the greater risk.

I really can't see it...customers come and go in eacort busniess, thats the idea...their are regulars, but most move on ,many providers are uncomfortable with seeing someone many times...the lost should be more emotional than lost or customer or income...

Customers do not 'come and go' in the escort business.  You get your curious one timers, but there is a solid body of clients that will use escorts again and again.  That's where the money is.  What percentage of the male population do you think have interest in a tranny?  Now take that figurative number and guestimate what percentage of the male population are willing to pay.  In NYC, male population of 5,000,000 if 1% are interested in a tranny, that comes out to 50,000 people.  If 1% of them go through the effort to locate tranny escorts, that leaves 500 potential customers.  It wont take you long to burn through all of your potential customers if they don't return.  If you do one guy a day that is 7 per week.  That gives your career longevity of about a year and 4 months if you don't establish a regular clientelle.  What successful service industry business exists that doesn't encourage repeat clientelle?  Perhaps many, 'move on', but even those who, 'move on' may come back even if they do not see you exclusively.  Personally I only have one review to my credit, because Jasmin is my regular.  I'm sure I'm not alone in that approach.

These numbers are figurative, but I hope you see my point.  Most men are not interested in trannys and only a small percentage would pay if they were.

Ever wonder why many career trannies tend to travel?  There's your answer.  They need an expanded population pool to draw from to keep in business.

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