Transsexual

Re: At least 30%...
larryhubbard 7 Reviews 1051 reads
posted
1 / 25

Do lots of TS providers have roommates?  I saw a provider today.  She didn't mention that she had a roommate.  I thought we were alone.  Session was going great!  Then I hear some rumbling in the back bedroom.  I ask if we are alone and she says it's her roommate.  I see the door crack open, and another trans woman comes out.  I wasn't near as attracted to the roommate.  I'd seen her ad as well.  She was good looking, just not my thing.  
Anyway, things were going great and then the roommate comes out and says can I join you?  The girl I was there to see looks at me.  I didn't want to be objectionable.  So, I said sure.  Which I kind of felt like she was pressuring me to say yes.  So right in the middle of getting extremely turned on and going at it with the girl I was there to see, the roommate starts negotiating price.  It turned me off so much.
I'll post my review after I can process the hot time that turned into a business negotiation.  

Has this ever happened to anyone else?  That's what I get for TOFTT.

zenshouse 68 Reviews 33 reads
posted
2 / 25

I had it happen once. Another provider barged in. She wasn’t my type. I said no. She kept pushing the issue while I was getting a blowjob. She took her bottoms off and spread her ass cheeks and said, “You know you want to fuck this.” I kept telling her I wasn’t interested and to please leave me alone. She wouldn’t let it go. I eventually pulled my pants back on and left. It was an awful experience.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 30 reads
posted
3 / 25

Thanks zenshouse.  It gives me a little comfort knowing that it has happened to someone else.  Your experience sounds terrible.  Was the provider reviewed?  I really feel like a sucker for handing over more cash.  The roommate hardly stayed 30 minutes and was frustrating and annoying the entire time.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 37 reads
posted
4 / 25

Should I post a review of the roommate?

KingBradley99 17 Reviews 33 reads
posted
5 / 25

I've had one drop some not so subtle hints about it, but I made it pretty clear I was only interested in some one on one time.

Dfusethesituation 38 reads
posted
6 / 25

I think it's a game TS providers play.  I had it happen to me years ago.  I went to see a really attractive TS provider and after I was ass naked she got up and went out of the room and left the door open and the friend she was staying with (who was not as attractive) was literally was standing at the door.  Shit was awkward as hell, when my provider came back I told her that was rude and to please not do that again, we finished the session and I did end up seeing her again but not at her friends place.  Maybe it's to and garner funds for the less attractive friends, but that shit is not cool at all.  And who brings double the asking donation to a session anyways?

Dfusethesituation 36 reads
posted
7 / 25

You should, something along the line of "she shares an apartment with a roommate, etc.."  Depending on how negative you are could affect your future visits though.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 37 reads
posted
8 / 25

Yes, this is the way to handle that situation.  I've been extremely easy going in my early career and think I will need to be more direct in the future.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 33 reads
posted
9 / 25

Thanks, that is exactly what I thought.  I brought enough cash for the girl I was there to see.  Then you surprise me and demand more cash with another girl that I didn't even want to see.  It was ridiculous!  The roommate asked for the same price.  I talked her down but she didn't even stay more than 30 minutes and kept trying to get more money from me.  And to top that, the roommate swiped my phone while I was occupied and held it to my face to unlock it.  She crossed so many lines and really pissed me off.

Jmaps 188 Reviews 39 reads
posted
10 / 25

I would say at least 30% of trans providers have a roommate. It's simple economics, the money trans providers make is not what you think so a roommate helps in that equation. Whether they're new to the country or born and raised here it's not easy for trans to find gainful employment. While it's getting better and places like Starbucks offer benefits, life is more difficult financially for trans people.    

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 35 reads
posted
11 / 25

I have no problem with roommates, but I booked a specific girl and not the roommate.  I can't believe she just interjected herself into the experience.  The more I think about it, it was Kylie's inexperience that allowed it to happen.  She's really new to the biz and I think she lets Rosalia take a dominant role due to her inexperience.  Hopefully she learns.  Kylie's absolutely gorgeous.
Sorry jmaps, not bitching at you, just still so disappointed.  It could have been an epic adventure!  Anyway, thanks for your advice for us noobs!  I'll be listening to your wisdom from now on.

zenshouse 68 Reviews 36 reads
posted
12 / 25

This happened before I knew about TER, so no review. These days I rarely TOFTT, and when I do I have significant hurdles I make sure to clear that limits the odds of their being issues. I still may come across roommate situations, but none that ever bothered me. TS providers are often taking in less money so I understand they may have a higher need for roommates to afford rent. As long as their professionals, it's not an issue.

tslucyjane See my TER Reviews 41 reads
posted
13 / 25

Thank you for acknowledging the financial and employment struggles that a lot of trans women in this industry face. Regardless, it's no excuse for such trashy behavior, and providers should avoid working out of their home, whether they have roommates or not. If these ladies don't have the agency to book a nice dayuse hotel room, they're not cut out for this work. Yes it gets expensive, but you have to spend money to make money. I'm sure they'd have a lot more repeat clients if they worked alone.

Gregthompson4881 38 Reviews 34 reads
posted
14 / 25

Yeah, about 1/3 of the trans girls I’ve seen had roommates—even some of the more expensive ones. It’s not really an issue for me unless the roommate is overly loud or disruptive. I did have one experience, where a t-girl I saw seemed to be living with like five guys who had tattoos and were smoking in the house. It was really strange because when I arrived, it seemed like no one else was there—at least that’s what I thought. There was another room in the apartment, so I couldn’t tell if anyone was inside. But when I was leaving, all these guys were suddenly in the kitchen, just staring at me. I thought I was about to get robbed, I hauled ass outta there lol. This girls place was in bad neighborhood in Newark, NJ. She was attractive, so I went anyway—even though the session ended up being terrible.

But overall, I haven’t really had any issues with roommates. The area where they live is much more of a factor when it comes to safety.

timotl 252 Reviews 39 reads
posted
15 / 25

Lots of girls have roommates and travel girls are almost always travelling with another girl(s). Great way to have a double or triple or quadruple!!! I have a few girls I see regularly with their roommates, and I even ask them to bring their friends too. I think it's so fun seeing 2 or more girls at a time.  

You said you felt pressured and didn't want to be objectionable. Not saying no if you weren't interested is on you. Lots of girls look out for each other and try to help their friends get dates. If you don't want to do it, just say no. That's 100% your fault. It is shitty to spring it on you, as this type of thing should be negotiated upfront, but you could've pointed it out to the girl you were there to see. You mentioned she was inexperienced; it could've helped her to stand up for herself with her overbearing friend. Most likely it would've helped her more than a review, especially if that review is bad.

Some guys appreciate a girl offering her friends. I'd have said, yeah bring your friend, and your other friend, and how about your neighbors too? Lol.

timotl 252 Reviews 36 reads
posted
16 / 25

I think it's pretty hypocritical of you to talk about the struggles trans women face in this industry but then admonish them for doing business the way it works for them. What makes you think you're qualified to judge what other providers SHOULD do or decide who is or isn't cut out for this work?

tslucyjane See my TER Reviews 41 reads
posted
17 / 25

No one should be seeing clients with their roommates inserting themselves into the session. If you’re going to work in your home w/ roommates, there should be strict standards and boundaries set.

Not working out of your private residence actually protects the provider AND the client. Just as easily as a provider can have a roommate you didn’t know about in the background, they can have a violent pimp, hitman, etc. This is why I roll my eyes when you all get so fussy and paranoid about screening. You’ll gladly walk into someone’s home not knowing if they’re an axe murderer, but you won’t screen for your “safety”. As if going into someone’s you’ve never met’s private residence is safe.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 34 reads
posted
18 / 25

Thanks for sharing your perspective.  Saying that it is 100% my fault seems very judgmental considering that I had agreed to see Kylie and not Rosalia.  You have no idea what the mood was and how close these two girls were.  I think if I would have said no to Rosalia, Kylie would have soured.  I was trying to salvage a quickly deteriorating situation.  I really wouldn't have minded the roommate if she had a good attitude.  The roommate kept asking me for more money, stealing my sunglasses, taking my phone, holding it up to my face when I was busy with Kylie to unlock it and then searching through it while I'm trying to get it back.  You don't know the full story.  It will be posted as soon as my review is approved.  Is that the kind of "friend" you would like to join your session?
Also, keep in mind this site is for the clients, so not posting my review would subject other clients to this kind of unprofessional and unsatisfying experience.  You might not want to throw around saying it's 100% someone's fault when you don't know the full story.
Yes, I said sure when it was sprung on me, but I should have never been put in that position to begin with.

larryhubbard 7 Reviews 37 reads
posted
19 / 25

I think you miss TSlucyjanes point.  She's not being hypocritical and I think you are being hypercritical.  You can still appreciate the struggles TS providers have while acknowledging that these girts were extremely unprofessional.  It seems like many of your posts are trying to be confrontational and not informative or helpful.  I appreciate your perspective, but it seems like you are the one judging.

Readytorock1 43 Reviews 34 reads
posted
20 / 25

You arent thinking this through. Or through thd lens of a client.  

If necessary i can defend myself. I conceal carry and i keep my running shoes on. Ill get myself out safely. Im very confident in this.  

But i cant defend myself as well from being doxxed.  

So that being said...no deposit.

QueenBia See my TER Reviews 38 reads
posted
21 / 25

Communication is everything and mine is impeccable. Never would I not mention the roommate prior to booking. I have a real lifelong girlfriend, so why not be honest? I would rather you be ready and willing. If you knew before you would have had a choice. The freedom to decide. It's a last minute upsell gone bad.

I provide duos, do you want my friend to join because I have a roommate and don't want to kick them out, plus they love to have fun too...

Learn to communicate better.

tslucyjane See my TER Reviews 40 reads
posted
22 / 25

You carry guns to bookings? Just when I thought you couldn't get any worse. I don't know how you aren't blacklisted throughout the entire industry.

Jmaps 188 Reviews 34 reads
posted
23 / 25

I have to second what timotl said here. It can be a lot of fun for 2 or 3 roommates or friends to join in provided that it's at a reasonable rate and there isn't a strong sell and or strong up sell to do so. When arranging appointments if you directly ask if they live alone, it might trigger warning signals. Ask something like; do you have any friends, do you know any trans girls that ever work with you in a non specif, nonchalant way. Some will still not be as revealing as you'd like, but it's often better to ask questions in a conversational way than yes or no questions. Remember, you're not interviewing them or questioning them as in a cop does a suspect or parent does a child. You need to be as conversational, calm and easy going as you can, this is where you need to sell yourself on them, not the other way around. Y0u need to be the escort whisperer... learn and prefect your dialogue while setting things up.

timotl 252 Reviews 29 reads
posted
24 / 25

My issue is with a provider saying another provider should never work from her house and that if she does, she isn’t cut out for this business. Decisions on where a provider does her business are that provider’s decision.

timotl 252 Reviews 41 reads
posted
25 / 25

I’m not saying it’s 100% your fault that this happened, but how you responded is. Take some accountability for your own actions. You could’ve said no. Could the session have gone sour? Yes. But it sounds like that ship had sailed and the session was already ruined. I can tell you that throwing money away never saves a session. It sounds like you had a hard lesson in that, which sucks. I disagree that you were “put” in this position. You chose to engage in criminal activity. Let that sink in. Providers know you’re not calling the police if you get ripped off. Accept that and act accordingly. Caveat Emptor.

The only reason I mentioned telling the girl you had agreed to see about how unprofessional her actions were, is that may have prevented it in the future. If it’s true that she was a decent provider who had a shitty friend, telling her that her friend sucks may prevent her from working with that friend again. That would help her for sure, but it might help the customers in the long run, as it could help steer her business practices towards honesty and communication.  

I know I’m confrontational and unhelpful, but here are some truths about this business. Sometimes people are dishonest. Sometimes people are coercive. Sometimes there is risk. You have a part to play in your interactions in this business. If you stand up for yourself, in the moment, and don’t give scammers more money they will be less likely to do it again. That helps everyone, providers and customers, more than any board post or review.

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