I have been trying to set up meeting with a GG and a TG provider for some time. It has been difficult from a logistical standpoint. I have a couple willing participants in L.A. and maybe in San Digo as well. Problem is getting to these towns as I live in Tucson.
Now for the intersting part;
I posted a request on the PHOENIX regional board yesterday saying: WANTED: A provider willing to meet with me and a transexual.
As of this morning that post had 224 reads and no "public" replies or comments.
I did however receive 3 responses from GG providers via PM. Two of which are very well known with many reviews and their own websites and one stating she has the same.
It goes to confirm what NOSEXNDRUGS4IAN said in the post regarding, "Am I a Slut?". To paraphrase... "I don't think we will see full aceptance of this in our lifetime".
Too bad for everyone....
Wishing everone tolerance in 2010.
Reposado,
Unfortunately you will not, even on other TER boards. Your best bet is to possibly connect with two providers you know and see if they will fulfill your fantasy or find one posting here by chance, and lastly advertising somewhere. I do my best to stay off of other boards only because they typically have no comment or response.
Hang here, we all have fun and all are welcome.
Dog
I've been rather naive about all of this and was disappointed to find that such fear and paranoia occurs even on TER. Many of the other mods are supportive; however, mods of all boards are low on the political food chain. It is not often that a policy decision is left for us to make.
TER is a private company's public forum. As such, there are people from every segment of the population, meaning some bring their baggage of fear-mongering with them to the boards. In essence, they translate their paranoia as political disposition, which becomes a powerful policy influencer for the TER gods. So, in order to guarantee the financial contributions of the masses, the business caters to them and thereby makes a profit. It's just basic economics despite its discriminatory practice.
It's not that the industry intends to exercise "legalized" discrimination. And, it's certainly not the first time anywhere in the U.S. Public awareness is still massively uninformed; therefore, TS/GG interaction is in a condition of "awareness of non-acceptance."
Our generation will have the toughest time of all since such attitudinal changes are marginal right now. In other words, changes in public opinion are typically slower than we'd like.
On the positive side: The Transsexual Board on TER exists! Yes, I know, it's not enough. Transsexual inclusion across the board is insufficient. Yet, our board is here.
And, for the most part, most do not realize that our board is given a certain leeway that other boards do not have. There are postings on our board that would never be allowed on other boards, such as obvious shills and multiple ad postings. I think people need to realize this.
As mods, the Dog and I are *extremely* active on our board compared to most. For example, we will usually edit a mini-review in order to post the thread/response. On other boards, this just isn't done. (I think some people forget that TER has rules for posting.)
Basically, we are in the throes of a changing attitude of acceptance for TS/GG interaction. More people than ever, privately, are open to this. That's where it begins. As soon as more open-minded--usually younger--generations take over, we will see amazing strides for equality.
And, in case anyone missed it: President Obama has appointed a transsexual to monitor military technology exports for the U.S. Commerce Department. A token or a step forward or both?
ABC News: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/amanda-simpson-transgender-presidential-appointee-begins-work-commerce/story?id=9477161
And so, the hate groups begin their rhetoric:
* http://rawstory.com/2010/01/christian-groups-slams-selfmutilating-obama-appointee/
Yet, the GLBT community is taking a national stand with Amanda Simpson. After David Letterman's joke, the Human Rights Campaign has asked for an apology.
* http://rawstory.com/2010/01/activists-slam-letterman-trasngender-appointee/
To some, it may be more comedy than insult, but it's also an opportunity to bring basic human rights and dignity to national attention. And, that's helping to improve the awareness of the masses.
We are people, too. We're not 3/5ths human. We are 100% human. We deserve legal protection and social inclusion. We deserve the social right to be discussed by our skills and expertise--not our orientation.
-- Modified on 1/9/2010 10:07:54 AM
"On the positive side: The Transsexual Board on TER exists! Yes, I know, it's not enough. Transsexual inclusion across the board is insufficient. Yet, our board is here."
Yes, the participants here should be very thankful to TER for the TS forum.
"And, for the most part, most do not realize that our board is given a certain leeway that other boards do not have."
This is why I am very careful when I post on the 2 other boards that I check out...some people may not appreciate my humor, or me for that matter because I do like the activity here...
great post cat!
oh, in relation to my following of the 2 other boards, like I said I am careful about what I post there because I see that they go active since Dog unmoderated me...I do appreciate that too...having said that, I do no want any of my posts to be a bad thing that leads back to Dog and get him in any trouble....hopefully others will do the same that you and cat unmoderate.
I think the world's perception of Transgendered women and men IS changing. And I think it's pretty exciting! More and more Trans women and men are breaking into the fields of Medicine (Christine McGinn, Marci Bowers), Politics (Amanda Simpson), Music (Kim Petras, an amazing singer from Germany), Law (Phyllis Frye), and even in Hollywood (Candis Cayne, who is on ABC's prime time drama "Dirty, Sexy Money").
We can pursue anything we want, and be whoever we want to be 
unfortunately the Phx board has been pretty much a dead board now since the hoopla with the agency bust that took place....I mean, there's not even a "known" mod there that you could pm if you needed to. After all this time, I still don't know why there is no mod. What gives?
I have a couple of female friends who think I am crazy for participating here but I don't care about what people think of me....
I think one of the main reasons why no provider answered you on the board with a "contact me" reply is because the fear that they me lose regulars or any future potential clients if gg provider hooked up with a TS girl.
So the lack of response, I wouldn't take it personal. I can only imagine who your 3 respondents were....at least you got that and if you take them up on it, I guarantee you that they will NOT want a review posted lol
It's so funny for me to read this... I know of at least three, maybe four GG providers (and these are just ones I've seen and know me personally) who have asked me which Tgirl providers I know will see GGs. And I have not been able to find a single one yet.
I'm in NJ and I see it the other way around... Here it seems like the Tgirls are the ones who have their preconceived notions for some reason. Or maybe I'm just finding all the straight Tgirls around here!
By the way, I moderate my own T-friendly forum on another board (which I won't mention for decorum's sake) which is NOT a T-girl only forum site and I think we've come a long way in acceptance. At least from where I remember.
The reason places like this work is when the mods work just like they do here on this great TER discussion board. They lead by example and junk isn't tolerated and the community as a whole raises itself to another level.
So, keep the faith! There ARE plenty of open-minded GG providers who not only WILL see Tgirls, some are BEGGING to see them! LOL
(Though it IS very true that all my GG provider requests have come in PMs back channel. None want to express their desires in public for fear of hurting business. But I don't see that as prejudice any more than providers don't mention publicly any other facet of their personality they think might hurt their business.)
Doc
I know a few gg providers and none of them are interested in a 3 way hookup.
I also have a gg friend who works with alot of women in Porn and she told me in their personal life(swing club) that guy on guy, girl on girl is cool, 4 way gang bang, but TS is taboo. WTF???
However some of non pro friends have talked about such things with relish.In particular i have a new friend who is pretty wild and she was telling me about her 3 ways etc, and we were running through fantasy lists of what she wants to do with me. We went from me bringing home some stranger, to 3 way, to male 3 bi way. The more taboo the wetter she got.
However i wanted to wait & see if she is serious or just feeling out who the "real" me is before we turn fantasy into reality.
It seems that average women have a higher degree or adventure than pros IME. The whole reason i got into TS was an ex who wanted to watch me suck cock while she played with tits
Hang in there buddy you'll find one.
That is an interesting point, however but I have to say that I have a girlfriend who is a retired lady from the boards who has joined me for a threesome with a TS (VO Yeh!!!!!) I also see a number of other ladies from time to time all of who know of my interest in this area and all of whom are demanding to join in. Hasn't happened yet but apparently it will.
Another issue is the number of TS' who aren't that interested in a GG being around at all. I have asked a couple who have said well she can watch but thats it... one or 2 who say cum on in the water's fine!
So bottom line it varies from person to person but evidently there is a growing acceptance throughout the culture for the whole notion of Transgender. Altho' there is certainly an immense way to go.
In the meantime I accept it culturally & on my knees.
Happy hunting!
