Would you say that GFE sessions with tgirls imply that she would only bottom on top of the regular GFE (kissing, touching DATO etc)? Or even if the girl tops can the session be consider GFE, or topping automatically makes the session non GFE?

IMHO, To me, GFE doesn't necessarily equate to the lady topping or bottoming. Rather, a GFE is about the established mood for the encounter. To be GFE, I like the kissing, cuddling, and caressing before the main event.

GFE means the same thing with ts girls as GG. But...as someone who has seen a lot of ts girls who advertise GFE it's definitely true they tend to be bottoms more often than not.

topping or bottoming has nothing to do with gfe, it is the other stuff that makes it gfe

That the girl comes over and cleans my place a bit, makes me some food, then complains for a while because I never call her, then we have a quickie on the couch while we watch Game of Thrones, then I fall asleep and she goes home. Perfect GFE.

And although I have to say I like timotl's answer the best, here's mine. From a heterosexual  male perspective, and paying for it to boot, GFE means full service, tongue kissing, with the lady agreeing to bottom, no ifs, ands or buts. If thats not whats in the cards, she should not advertise as such, period. I don't buy any of the arguments that the switch GFE, where the TS is the top qualifies, that should be a separate category from GFE, IMHO.

I agree 100% on the kissing part, that is what sets the tone. No tongue, no GFE. The top or bottom stuff is a personal preference but I would say that a girl could top a guy and it would still be a GFE if kissing is involved.

true GFE for sure. or in your case "don't trust the bitch on apt 23" instead of GOT lol

I stopped seeing TS providers a few years ago since I never got the GFE I was looking for.

In reply to your follow up question as to why guys wish a provider to cum ... for me an important part of sharing intimacy with a gg or t-girl is for me to feel that I have pleased her. The vagina wetness occurring from providing oral pleasure to a gg woman and the ejaculation from providing oral pleasure to a t-girl is therefore a desired goal.  Shared intimacy for me is for both participants to be pleased.

Having had the good fortune of dates with you Sasha and one of the other all-time great t-girls, the late Arianna, I can attest it is absolutely possible to have a wonderful GFE even when I have been topped. It's the attitude, personality, passion, and genuine love-making skill that enables such dates to be completely GFE for me, regardless of who is topping or bottoming.

Yep. In your hat. Lol. So cute.

who do not believe topping precludes a GFE classification.  DFK'ing with plenty of mutual intimacy and mutually being turned on merits a GFE classification.  Until recently I wasn't a big fan of providers summing, but to me it shows that I helped turn them on which makes me feel good about our session.

My opinion is that the chemistry makes it GFE not what acts are performed.
I believe GFE means the session flows without speed bumps or road blocks. If I offer a kiss, and she counter offers with no or a conditional yes = Not GFE.  
I prefer a date without road blocks and try to have the conversation about preferences (Top, Bottom, Verse) on the first call. If the girl tells me she is only a top AND I decide to see her, I'm not going to ask her to bottom when we meet.  
For me, chemistry means the girl is visibly turned on (boner), willing to go with the flow, and she matches and anticipates my chess moves. If a girl does something I like/want before I even ask for it, she's won me over. But if I hear "no" or "I don't do that" especially if it's something she just let me do to her, then provider = Not GFE

That makes GFE for me.  If I'm being topped, it's just part of the Trans GFE for me.

It's really not that uncommon for even a gg to peg their boyfriend if he's open to the idea.  Some relationships have a more dominant female partner, but that doesn't make such a woman "not a girlfriend".

Maybe I'm lucky, but I typically have little to no trouble reaching climax in session.  In fact, I prefer doing so because it's a win/win.  I get to experience a terrific orgasm, and the client gets to watch me squirt ^~^

For me I think GFE has a lot of parts to it including, kissing with tongue, hugging, mutual BBBJ, mutual DATO, if both are into it, mutual top and bottom. As long as I know all of these are available I feel the whole experience is going to be great. There are times I may want to just top or bottom but as long as the option is there everything is good. After all, one would do most, if not all, of these with their GF, thus the term.

when you keep getting consistent bad service, then I would recommend you to take a hard look at what you must be doing wrong.  

if it isn't my new bestie. Hi Alyssa. welcome to the ts board.

What does GFE mean?

I can personally vouch for your adorablity when you cum! To be fair, you are 18...girls who are older don't cum quite as easily....

Girl Friend Experience. It's in the Whoremonger's Guidebook, bre. Page 1.

Well said, spoken like a true courtesan!

lol ... to me, GFE would mean BBBJ, don't care about DATO much myself, and most importantly DFK.
I've found the DFK somewhat elusive

I don't necessarily ask her to cum...but, like the other respondents, I want her to get off, too.  Just because I'm paying for it is no reason to be selfish, or treat a woman like a piece of meat.  And I do think it's hot when you T-girls cum in my mouth.

how i usually describe gfe to clients (beyond the baseline that it should never feel like a service after the financial terms are agreed upon). its whatever a gf that's truly into you (in an idyllic sense) would do with you. that could mean being the assertive top during a sesh or an equal play partner during a roll in the hay afternoon delight sesh. its a state of mind thing imho, no matter what the play involved is. xoxo k

Let me add a new dimension to the GFE discussion which Sasha kicked off--even though my comment is not really responsive to her question.  As far as I'm concerned, a satisfying GFE involves much more than sex.  (OK, I can see a lot of you rolling your eyes.  But I will forge ahead, even at the risk of being dismissed as sappy and naive.)  To me, a true GFE requires doing my best to understand and appreciate the human being I am with -- to connect with her, and not only in the physical sense.  I want to learn what she likes and dislikes, what her hopes are for the future, what her most important memories are, what she fears, what she values, what she believes in.  I have no doubt that many providers would consider this attitude to be a threat to their privacy, and I completely understand that not all providers would be responsive.  I also understand that a short, one-time encounter does not provide much scope for this sort of exercise.  But this is an essential component of my GFE ideal.  (And sure, the sex is great, too.)        

How is a TFE experience different?

In my experience, two primary factors will determine how much the provider is willing to share:
1) sexual chemistry is there, and the provider is attracted to the client on multiple levels - e.g. physical appearance, attitude, sense of humor, voice.
2) provider is new to the game or a part-time hustler. She may have walls to protect her privacy but they are thinly reinforced. The longer the provider is in the game, the more the durable those walls become.

To me it is a mixture of chemistry and certain acts.  I need to click with someone and their has to be DFK.  If there is no DFK it's a mood killer to me.  If there is the experience should naturally evolve into passion which is what gfe is to me.