Hi Guys I am back I just have been very busy to place a posting in here as I was travling in and out,also I moved from bevery hills to West Hollywood and planning to be here for a while so here I am and wanted to let everyone know.  I also added a video clip of me on myspace page so you all can see me dance lol,  As I only use the pictures I take with my own webcam not being cheap  but  I do not like to miss present myself in anyway and use studio photoshoped pictures, I can assure you that I look 100% better in person.

To thoese who I did not had the pleasure to meet I added all the information about me as I am classified with doctors and medical community as Hermaphrodite "Intersexual". I am just like a transsexual but not on hormones "Just natural"  and I try to stay as natural as I can, And educate people To not change for others and be happy with who you are live and let live.  

Also I would like to mention this since I do have lots of Transsexual friends who I love dearly, I like to pass this message to all the men out there  and educate them so as if you do not find a T-girl to be not "passable" the term seem to be used now a days lol, as you find them please keep it to yourself as It is no ones place to judge anyone unless they have missrepresented themself, As that will drive them to do more hormones and damege their bodies more,  Try to be respectfull and if you do not like them its simple do not hire them.  As I am sure people who like to judge others typically are not supre models themselves,  I just had to add that since this is a transsexual boards and this is very imporant issue that guys seem to not grasp .  As some of this girls go through cosmatic surgeries, hormones , laser treatments spend thousands of dollars to be accepted and this is the last thing they need to hear from some idiot ask them if they are passable or not. Think about this issue next time you see T girl and pass a judgment please. I can say that As intersexual I  really do not care to be a boy or girl I am just one sexy human being but I know transexuals think quite the opposite and some one have to stand for them so be nice guys and do not judge if you do not or find someone attractive its simple do not hire them ..  thanks again love to all Elle

Thank you for taking time to read this and hope to hear from you if I can be in any service Elle.

well ur so beautiful, dont let this business corrupt u ,honey, ur a gem,

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This discussion board is about transsexual providers. If we cannot be honest about how we feel about a provider that we have seen regarding their passability which is an important criteria for me, whats the point?
Not every post/pre op is gifted naturally like you and I understand that it could be a problem but this site is used for sharing of information for a purpose.

This is not a dating site to hook up with a transsexual in hopes of having a long lasting love.

Hope you enjoy your stay here in LA

-- Modified on 6/22/2007 2:41:17 PM

gorgeous!

i hope ur never forced to fuck an ugly fatty

-- Modified on 6/23/2007 4:28:51 AM

Hi and thank you for the reply I am only going to reply back because you disagree and you know that make me want to make you see eye to eye with me as I am a Libra hahahaah.

We are all in  this board of Discussion for transsexual not a place to pass rumors or judgment but to learn and pass true information. or if someone broke the golden rule and miss behaved like some of the naughty girls and some good threads that have been posted to be brought to attention for others.  As when you are a provider you have certain obligation in order to be successful and have repeat clients break them you will be alone and end up traveling to every state in USA to find new clients makes your job harder.

What you find passable might not be passable to others,  You can clearly meet someone and take a look at their picture and in which stage of progress they are going through.  By placing judgment you will break their cycle,  Transsexuals are already on hormones and doing cosmetic surgeries to be a girl  why do you need the feel to judge them ??? if someone dies or under go wrong treatment will you guys stop then?! As I am sure so many will if they are not educated and learn about hormones and their bodies. You can not speed this progress in order for you to be a girl or you will pay in your health as you get older.   And guys who find you passable now will leave you when you are sick and unhealthy.  being passable is the most stupid thing that I have ever heard as there are so many strong featured genetic girls who do look like males.  So who are we to judge who is a male or female?  guys who judge transexuals more likely to be homosexuals who have their own issue and are in closet So they love to pick on TS girls and make them feel as bad as they do being in closet. as if you really love gentic girls why are you in here?  You come to TS providers knowing they all have a penise and act as you want vagina ??  Then you are in different world my dear.  this world girls are fantasies they are man made and each one try their best to be the sexiest creature who have ever lived and they all compete with each other that's the nature of TS girl.   So  you guys all have to learn them and respect them.

I bring this issue in order for us to be human and think  how your comment can hurt some one look what happened to Britney Spears.  Do not judge people its not anyone place , We are all in this earth to love one another not hate.
And no one have the choice of how they were born some were blessed with beauty and some of us not so you cannot be mean to those who has been misfortunate and still feel sexy to be in the sex industry let them be.  Now do as you please  I thought Discussion boards are good to learn and ask question not to judge people and pass rumors.

If someone is not attractive everyone can get clue from their pictures or when you meet them you can walk away there is no need to be rude and inhumane.   In life we have choices and I hope you guys will do the right thing does to others as you like to be done to you and your family.  I have friends who I have seen some bad reviews and threads in here which are so untrue, It saddens me especially when I know them and know they are lies from jealous provider or someone hatefully or stalker trying to put them out of business.  So with that in mind not everything that you will read in here is true anyway.  So try to be honest and do not judge people its not your place. And as I said before about the nature of the TS girls they will all compete and if they had a choice will put each other out of business, its the natural cycle as they are man made and each one will go to extreme to be prefect or try to be no matter the cost on health or wealth.

If someone rob you or misrepresented and lied feel free to share, if only its true otherwise keep your suggestion as who is passable to yourself as not every genetic girl is passable either since they all have a vagina it doesn't make them female or does it??????  I guess I am so lucky I am neither and frankly very happy to learn that at such young age to not care what anyone think but not everyone as strong as I so I will speak up for them.   and hope may be one day we all live in peace and be better people.  Elle

I think you are quite attractive..... however, in an ad you mention
400 roses???     Yikes!     Don't know if this is the crowd for those kind of roses!  

All the best!

F

ahha Well About my Rate 400 is not much Considering what I have to offer .

I offer clean and perfect  functional body I work out and I am fat free.
Natural pretty face with full lips  , Not any facial surgeries but I am considering a nose job lol.    

bright white dazzling white teeth extreme oral hygiene I have them clean every month to insure perfect breath. and I do not have any filling all my teeth are natural and prefect shows my oral hygiene is to extreme.

Always Tasted once a month Against HIV and STD,    Will sit any test on request if let say condom broke while I am a top to insure your safety "which was never happened to me I am always careful,"  so with me fun with no headache  http://www.aim-med.org/   No fee for my time but 100.00 Fee required for the test.  

Luxury Location -  Complimentary valet parking - Door man and front desk no one allowed on my door while I have a client, so there is no surprises for visitors or uninvited miss happenings .  My building is super tight even cops cant get it without me authorize their visit. Discreet as there are lots high profile celebrities reside here on occasions.

100% no fees when we meet if you had a cold feet or change of mind. or feel nervous.  Also I do reschedule if you feel you want to come back so do not feel bad,  its happened sometimes and I am here to make your first time experience pleasant not something that you regret or feel rushed in to.

I live alone no roommate  Great California cal king with silk sheets,  Full shower access before or after or both lol.

HDTV plasma mounted to the wall to insure good climate  as I am remodeling and fixing the place as it fit the mood.

clean top silk sheet for every client every thing is washed and sprayed with tea tree oil no scent to prevent scabies which is huge scare when you deal with lots of people and no one like to get infected.  so I do not take a risk I treat every one as patient so no one will ever bring anything in my room.

Everynight entire house is sprayed by Lysol and everything is washed restroom and bathrooms are brand new toilet seats get replaced to new ones every month.     I also doing remodeling so I have to keep the place dust free.



I have escorted since April 2007 and I would like to thank all my client who supported me as my success speaks of happy clients and their support is my success and I will insure to be the best and always look for new way to learn and keep up with new ideas as I am not interested in one timers as all my clients are regulars I could never live and do the things I do based on one time callers.as in May my rate got fix and I do not negotiate any more as I have a lot to offer compare to any provider in 200 to 300 Range.

I offer you true beauty 100% healthy and assure you I am always respectful and classy.  good time without fear  To me this is a job not a hobby I take it very serious and that is the reason I am very successful.  I will never mistreat anyone and never like to be mistreated either. and I have been blessed with sexy hot clients so far as this is make my job very easy I had not even one person who I had to turn away or unhappy so far.

You might pay 250 to the average provider but I assure you non will offer what I do, You will never be in a luxury location , you will not have Complimentary valet parking have to look for parking all over and park your car yourself in the street ,.Esp if you own a Car 80k and above and would never park it on street as I never leave my baby unattended Always valet or in secure parking,  You will never know their HIV std status or have any right to it or they will under go any test if you ask them to.  .  not to mention my body and face is 100% natural and prefect and I have no fat what so ever.  if I had a vagina my rate would have been 2k /h as I would be a Playboy model hahahaha so you guys are lucky i have a penis hahah.So with all that in mind my price is pretty dam cheap four hundred is a give away as the TS market is not as good as genetic girls in my caliber .

hahahaahah I hope so too so far I have been blessed with sexy hot clients as my guys are usually married opps lol or guys who are busy to go out and want to make sure they have someone pretty on call.
I do not play games and some how attract the same kinda clients who are stright forward and very clean cut we just have a great mututal understanding.

I love everyone as you read my threads I do not reject anyone who find me attractive as I am flatterd by their great taste lol  but if they have a very poor hygiene I have to decline but never happen so I guess I have a lucky angel looking out for me .  I am also not desprate to take calls as I have great faithfull regulars who keep my bills blanced so I am very happy and greatful.   And if I do find some ape as to your descrpition I am sure I will try to help him to learn new ways and clean him up so he wont bug other providers and will be in demand.  
As unshowerd part I can shower mole can be removed by 200 laser stretch markes can go away by the right diet and excersise , big dicks i dont care as i have mine to play with blonde we can get a bleach and mediterranean guys I am not much fan off I love american guys  so there I have answer for every problem lol....  

Mediterranean guys typically very religious and brain dead and washed and treat people unfairly why would I want them??  
I like educated people who work hard and like to play harder I guess thats California and manhattan  and that is the reason I do find this two state my home land and my EX was from Manhattan who I love dearly and still best of friends but California is my SEC home and I love all my California guys and they all know it.

well, u r not a provider. it is very difficult to have sex w/ an ungly, unattractive person(e.g. hairy,moles,bad breath, etc, ),

-- Modified on 6/23/2007 12:08:05 PM

This is place to exchange info...some guys like very passable TS some like them a little more masculine...no problem if the facts and opinions are shared. People can always disagree without being disagreeable. Let's continue to share info.

be sure to stay single until I meet you!

good for u, lol,ellesovak, yes, some mediterranean guys i guess treat ppl unfairly, ,so i guess my luck's been good,--

-- Modified on 6/23/2007 12:08:55 PM

First let me say how much I really appreciate the recent participation by ellesovak and babydoll1978 in our little forum.  We have a few others who have been adding their comments from time to time, so thank you to them as well, most notably Jamie who has been holding the fort almost single-handedly for some time.  It is very nice to have the ladies point of view represented and I hope you all will keep it up .  

Now, we all know that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but what I always take “passable” to mean is a whole lot more than looks.  It has more to do with attitude, style and carriage.  If someone has been described as “passable” then I expect much more than the queen from the local drag show (no offense to those who find that attractive and may be seeking that type of encounter).  The passable TS may still have very masculine features or even dress but they have found that something which makes you react “female” when you first see them in person before you think “male”.  There are more than a few TV’s out there who have not engaged in ANY surgical or hormonal modifications but are extremely “passable”.  Maybe the luck of their genetics has helped but I also believe that attitude has a whole lot more to do with it.  

“Passable” is also a very wide spectrum, therefore only at one extreme will a passable TS be indistinguishable from a GG.  For some clients this ultimate in “passability” may be desirable, but probably not for most.  For some TS this extreme is clearly the goal of their physical transformation.  I can only wish that everyone would realize there is a much more to it than physical beauty however that may be defined by the beholder.

I agree with ellesovak in that I think too much pressure on “beauty” is a very bad thing – there are as many forms of “beauty” as there are people.  I also don’t think our use of “passable” will have much impact on that pressure.  There is already so much emphasis on beauty in our culture that I doubt if the TER TS forum is going to contribute much additional pressure in any meaningful way.  Meanwhile I also agree with davebr, we have developed a vocabulary for this community which serves us well and we should keep it.  By the same token let’s not abuse it as readers, reviewers or posters.  

Regards,

TS Tempted  

It seems that you already have in several posts on this thread alone.  If you truly are a provider, you might want to consider joining the Providers Only board too.

These are all quotes from you in this thread:

Do not judge people its not anyone place

You might pay 250 to the average provider but I assure you non will offer what I do

And as I said before about the nature of the TS girls they will all compete and if they had a choice will put each other out of business, its the natural cycle as they are man made and each one will go to extreme to be prefect or try to be no matter the cost on health or wealth.

I am sure people who like to judge others typically are not supre models themselves,

So who are we to judge who is a male or female?  guys who judge transexuals more likely to be homosexuals who have their own issue and are in closet

Mediterranean guys typically very religious and brain dead and washed and treat people unfairly why would I want them??

MY DEAR I did not judge
once you have someone picture or name and pass comments like five year old childerns that is judgment.  I am only sharing my openion.

I have friends who I have seen threads being posted as 411 and as warnings  and all inside is lies and untrue comments about the provider with their picture and personal information linked to their web site.  Done by other jealous providers and some time unhappy clients who probebly were out of line.  As I know this girls and they are the nicest people and look devine .

That is judgment.

When I pass a comment in general its not a judgement I just share my openion.  Most people think why TS girls hate each other ,  The answer is no they do not but they compete and sometime it get out of hand, A Ts girl can get away with murder in the court with right lawer why do you think that?? even some cops leave them alone?  They do hormones and that can effect your brain pattern.  and most of them are overdose on it,  So you guys have to learn why they do crazy thing and they can hurt each other,  I have lots of Ts friends and I see what goes on and how dirty some of the girls do play why do you think I leave in a secure building and fear no one hahaahah,  I can speak out but not every one can as they do notlike drama from other providers.    I will let everyone know even TER for that fact that not every thread is true there are some TS girls who post lies to get cridet and try to put others out of business and that have to stop if it doesnt I will keep posting till it does.  As I do not want to see any picture of my friends or me one day being posted with bunch of lies under it from jealous providers or people who can play fair.


And also If I see some guy try to judge a girl and say as she is passable or not I will tell him know how he look too then let see how nice that it is to judge eachother and how he like it  beacouse you pay 200 to 400 a session it does not give you any right to judge people my dear ,  if you think its doest you guys are all out of line.

You can talk about service and if they misspresented and use fake pictures or provide bad service with fact and truth to it not lies.

Calling a girl passable or not u drive them to do more hormones I have friends and they are doing overdose to please clients it is getting way out of hand if you think your comments wont have effect think again.  yes the world is based on beauty and I can not change the world but I can change you guys this is small community.  Anyway keep this up you will see lots of ts girls in hospital having thier kidney and liver chuped up and when they are gone you will see how your review and comment had effect on that and how childish it was and I can assure you, you can not take the time back and undo it .

Its all in your hand All I am saying please be truth full and better people do to others as they were your sister or borther when you see a lie thread report it or do not get involve in it even though it sound fun and crazy it can hurt someone.

WE can not change the world but we can change our action .  


I wont say anymore I think you all get the picture  my english is not so good so its hard for me to express myself, I wish there was a way to have real clients only to post reviews with real facts not jealous providers who can not play fair. or some stalkers who do not even hire girls and like post a review .

I had a call from a guy who wanted to have session with me for 200 so he can write me a good review if I refuse he said you be sorry and might as well pack your stuff and leave to manhattan .  You know my answer to that I laugh and told him go fk urself.    I will contact TER and will let them know of what was said to me as I said I do not take this as a joke or hobbie this is my job and I am best at it and will not tolorate idiots who act like five year old kids.

thank you for the reply and nicly said I wish my english was as good hahaah..

but I have to disagree with end part yes the world is shallow and based on beauty but we can change it if we keep going on and say the world wont change it wont why we have to educate people.

And this is small community and hand full of people who read and post reviews I hope they get the pictures that their comments can be deadly to some girls and they will think twice. thats all.


Its very easy to be mean and bad its hard to be nice and sane we can all post picture after picture and lets make joke of it and talk about silicon tits and lips and laugh but that will hurt human being who spend over thousands and in her mind think she is prefect and looking at all the comment might drive her back to surgery again. Why do you think TS girls keep doing facial surgery no matter what they do they will always seek apporval and if you do not support them in their own community how the hell you expect them to go in the real world and be a female.   You people are so mean

All I say at least in this board Transsexual please be respectfull to the girls this is thier community if they be rejected and being laughed at having big silicon tits or no tits how do you expect them to be accepted in the real world.

girls do read here and do take the comment serious and they do hurt when they are fake and lies I have seen them and i have seen how angery it can make some one...  thats all my job is to pass the message and I did so i feel good that I did my part to make this board a better place i can not change the world but i can change my action today and i did a good thing.  I speak for them who are hurt and hopefully they read this and feel some peace and know not every human is scum there are good people on this earth who will speak the truth and will fight for whats right and this lies and judgment on pictures have to Stop.  no one have any right to judge someone no one. not even clients if they are unhappy they can leave and not pay I dont see how to post some girls picture and talking about her breast is going to do anyone any good? !

thank you baby you are so nice

lol baby doll u 2 much lol  that was funny made me laugh

Well I am so glad and I hope you will never have any bad experience as you are seem so sweet,  And as my comment for mediterranean guys was imature and wrong and I am sorry I even brought  it up  as I am not raciest at all I love every one all races.

And here I am trying to educate people to post true and facts and do not judge others and I have acted like an idiot on  mediterranean guys hahah...  I am sorry lol.  

See my point is when you mass up sometime you can go back and change it and sometime you can hurt a race or a person or culture for that matter.

So i am sorry for any guys from that regions and I know good and bad is in every culture .  love to all and my comment was very childish and imature.  

hope everyone be as honest to addmit to their wrong doings and then we will have a better world.

hi thanks baby no I have never been to washington, but thanks for the sweet comment made me laugh,
I go to manhattan sometime for modeling work thats about it.

“I have friends who I have seen threads being posted as 411 and as warnings  and all inside is lies and untrue comments about the provider with their picture and personal information linked to their web site.  Done by other jealous providers and some time unhappy clients who probebly were out of line.  As I know this girls and they are the nicest people and look devine .

That is judgment.”

No.  That is lying.  Saying the girls are nice and look divine is a judgment.  Saying the posters are lying is and should keep quiet is judgment, as is this: “Most people think why TS girls hate each other ,  The answer is no they do not but they compete and sometime it get out of hand” , this: “beacouse you pay 200 to 400 a session it does not give you any right to judge people my dear ,  if you think its doest you guys are all out of line.”, and this: “I am best at it and will not tolorate idiots who act like five year old kids. “

Perhaps it is a language problem. but you seem not only judgmental and  self-righteous in your posts.  That is my self-righteous judgment of you.

This message board and the reviews are expressed as people’s opinions, facts, and fallacies.  It’s essentially gossip.  I read posts and reviews with that in mind.

If a person wants emotional and moral support there are other websites and groups that can provide that.  This discusson board is not that.  However, if this WAS a message board about support for the transgendered then it would be totally rude for people to chime in without asking about someones passability.

This website is about the "business".  If a provider cannot handle the criticism then they shouldn't read the reviews or this board.

If I felt that a provider was on the heavy side, is it so wrong for me to say that in a review or post?  Perhaps some guys like that.  I know I like my providers to have some meat on their bones from time to time.

If a provider had a 5 o'clock shadow, I think its very appropriate to inform others of that.  I know that I would want to know.  The information should be out there for others to decide if they want to spend their hard earned money.

For me this isn't about "passability", its about sharing free information.  Just because there are a few bad apples who incite negatives or lies doesn't mean that we should all be bared from sharing our experiences truthfully.

Bottom line is I think you need to get off the fact that this board isn't here to help providers inflate their ego unless they want to know that they are desired by many.

Well, whatever the deal is....  I still say most of us admirers are in the range of 250 roses.    If you decide to offer that, I'm VERY interested as I've had many good time experiences for those type roses or less with every other tgirl I've been with.

Just my opinion

High doses of alcohol help also.  You need to educate yourself on the finer points of random sex.

No thanks honey, I'll pass.



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