Escorting is a service orientated profession.
Some of us who do well..earning hundreds of thousands annually....few even close to a million
A good, successful, upscale provider is a smart, healthy, experienced person who like their client and is willing and can do a lot of things to fulfill her clients's sexual needs, fantasies and wants AND has an excellent time management thus can manage her schedule perfectly in order to deliver her best service to each client.
Each of client has their own needs and wants...and as a provider, we try to accomplish their needs and wants accordingly and correctly.
Some come to us only to enjoy our companionship...but some come really with so many sexual fantasies and needs in their mind.
Let me give you an example:
If a provider has 6 clients on that day...and each wants her to cum...do you think she can do her job best?
NO. We will be tired after the third clients.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability to cum.
Let me give you another example:
A provider see two clients today: one client like to talk and top her...and enjoy her company.
The other client want to have a domination session...with her wearing her her latex...he want her to cum and give him a golden shower.
Do you think each of them deserve to be charged the same?
NO. the other client has more needs and wants.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability or personality to do the domination/submission session.
Therefore, it is important for us, for me especially, to schedule the perfect time for a client to see me in order to give each and every client my best service.
I only can have max. 3 vip and domination clients a day..and the rest will be standard GFE sessions.
Those VIP clients..of course, cannot come every hour....so therefore I will fill the "gap" by having a standard GFE clients in between them. In the end...everybody will have a great time!
I was fully booked yesterday and John4jayne came to see me as my last VIP client and i deliver exactly what he wanted in the session, simply because i had a great time management, thus even as the last client, i still can perform as my very best.
I've been noticing many of the providers have a "VIP hour" in addition to a regular hour price. Is there a difference I should know about?
It is a subtle way of saying, Your not getting a goodtime unless your payin the higher rate! Some guys are happy with a quickie, turn and burn, so hustle up the higher rate if you want more, but beware, "The VIP Rate" does not always mean you get the best. Research, check reviews ask questions, and stay with the highly regarded providers with the best reviews.
Good question!
In my case, i have 2 different type of rate:
1. standard gfe session: a gfe session, kissing, cuddling and some penetration
2. vip session: starting with body massage, plus a gfe session, plus fetish/fantasy, or i can cum for you if you need me to (you have to tell me this in advance though).
So, a vip session is a session with more "menu" in it.
Despite what they may tell you, a provider who is thinking of staying within the confines of her 'menu' while she is supposedly providing for your enjoyment is inherently more detached during the session. Think about it. How do you feel when in the middle of passion, you have to consider, or be reminded of rules on what is allowed, compared to a carefree time based on doing what you both (hopefully) enjoy--- frustrated?, detached, disappointed?
The ideal client for some providers (thankfully not all) is one who accepts the price, plops his money on the table disregarding getting the provider's consent to give anything, and takes whatever he gets. Then he wonders why there are so many guys bitching on this board about how they got totally ripped off. Duh. Newsflash: Be a gentleman but recognize this is not a gentlemen's game.
Got a suggestion for you, but it requres tuning off 'the little head' when coming thru the door or talking ot the phone, and you cannot be bashful either. Look her in the eye (mentally if on the phone), smile, tell her specifically everything you want, for how long and ask her what she wants. You can do this before or after the inital hug, but before taking out your wallet. Then shut up, watch her reaction and listen carefully. Be prepared to walk. But if OK, give her the money and have a good time.
Charging more for more time, on the other hand, has nothing to do with enjoyment of the session because it has nothing to do with the emotional state during the session, unless of course it is so short that it is necessarily rushed.
I hate talking about the money. I will lose a boner in an instant, and have, when discussing terms with a provider. I prefer to know exactly what goes in the envelope before she opens the door, then I want to drop it on the counter and forget about it. I have paid for VIP service because when I want to engage in one of my very mild kink's, I don't want any risk of an upsell discussion. If the VIP rate is competitive for the services I am seeking, I pay it. I consider myself a VIP customer with all the providers I visit, but most of them don't offer a non-VIP discounted service. I suppose it is for the slam-bam non-GFE customer who wants to blo and go. not for me, but others may enjoy.
Some girls, like myself don't offer a VIP service simply because we give our best to EVERY client we see.
Kisses
Miami
TER ID 171819
Her attitude would ensure a great time, I would guess. Check her website; full disclosure no hype no gimmicks.
A gentleman should be treated as a VIP regardless how much time he spends with you. End of story.
Funny you mention that. I just dismiss those ads as I find them slightly misleading. I do wonder if they realize just how much biz they lose as well.
Saw a variation of a VIP ad today... with ranges and the Full Day is not VIP and no discussion???
BLOCKED, PRIVATE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES will be ignored.
DONATIONS WONT BE DISCUSSED OVER THE PHONE ! PLEASE READ !!!!!
VIP SERVICES !!!
200 -250 GFE VIP 1/2h in call
300 -350 GFE VIP 1/h in call
400 GFE VIP 1/h out call 4-5 star hotels ONLY.
600 GFE VIP 3 + /hour Evening in the city
(dinner, cocktails and more)
1500 GFE full day (sorry no overnights available)
TS Sexy Giselle
617-803-5900
I personally would probably not be in search of or pay for a "VIP Session" only because the GFE/VIP deal is not for me. If I wanted pillow talk and a few hours of uncomfortable spooning, I'd find a girlfriend. NO Thanks.
My feeling is you really can't make a general statement and say every provoder who offers VIP may not offer anything more than their regular session. I posted this awhile back and I feel providers advertise a VIP session in hopes of catching that big, rich, wale of a customer.
Don't get me wrong, if I paid the extra roses for the VIP, shot my load in ten min and then saw the provider taking calls and saying "call me from Sunset and Western Papi in ten minutes" I would be pissed.
Most of us know that there are good providers and bad providers. VIP or no VIP, the good ones will always do well and the bad ones, who have crappy reputations won't have too many VIP sessions.
Last analogy.....TS Daisy from Texas.....hundreds of top top reviews. Her rates are on the higher end of the scale. How many peeps would pay 100 extra roses to spend another hour or so with her or have her pamper you in her so so sexy lingerie.....If I could swing it, that might be one of the providers that might make me considering going back to the ATM for a few more bennies.
From all of the reviews I have read and comments posted here, there are only a few top providers that give it their "all" every time, VIP or no VIP.
Any provider can do whatever they want, this is not goverment job, it's their body, they can do whatever they want to do, whether the "clients" like it or not, it's up to the clients to make their choices.
I want to be neutral in this issue, I don't have VIP service myself, I will give everyone the same respect and treatment. To me VIP it has to be more than just the time, but companion, I do not want to cuddle or spooning with someone and put the timer on, that's not right, I would just find a BF for that.
We should not make bad assumption for providers who offer VIP, it's not our bussiness to tell them what to do, we cannot judge them either, it's their body, so they have right to do anything. At the end of the day, everything come down to the money.
The hobbyist can make any choices and pick who they comfortable with regardless the price, any clients that concern about the rate and service are ussually not up for fun, pick those who has good reviews. There are so many choices out there, we should not complaint about the individual. If you don't like about what they offer, you should move on to the next instead of judging them, we don't know what's in their mind. Maybe those who offer VIP has something special for VIP client that she really want to share with that special client.
We ( Transgender and Admirer ) have small community, so it's not nice to judge each other, tho each one of us need one another. I'm sure if you show some respect, they would respect you as well, we are only human who often make mistake and make bad decision in life.
Again for VIP question, they don't really have general answer unless someone ask about the individual provider. Providers should make clients feel special for spending their time and money VIP or no VIP.
I will consider VIP if someone take me to shopping..or get me boobs job so I can give them free BJ once a week for 6 months...LOL..
Have a Happy Pride everyone...take the positive and leave the negative!
xoxoxo
Geeeeeee
Escorting is a service orientated profession.
Some of us who do well..earning hundreds of thousands annually....few even close to a million
A good, successful, upscale provider is a smart, healthy, experienced person who like their client and is willing and can do a lot of things to fulfill her clients's sexual needs, fantasies and wants AND has an excellent time management thus can manage her schedule perfectly in order to deliver her best service to each client.
Each of client has their own needs and wants...and as a provider, we try to accomplish their needs and wants accordingly and correctly.
Some come to us only to enjoy our companionship...but some come really with so many sexual fantasies and needs in their mind.
Let me give you an example:
If a provider has 6 clients on that day...and each wants her to cum...do you think she can do her job best?
NO. We will be tired after the third clients.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability to cum.
Let me give you another example:
A provider see two clients today: one client like to talk and top her...and enjoy her company.
The other client want to have a domination session...with her wearing her her latex...he want her to cum and give him a golden shower.
Do you think each of them deserve to be charged the same?
NO. the other client has more needs and wants.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability or personality to do the domination/submission session.
Therefore, it is important for us, for me especially, to schedule the perfect time for a client to see me in order to give each and every client my best service.
I only can have max. 3 vip and domination clients a day..and the rest will be standard GFE sessions.
Those VIP clients..of course, cannot come every hour....so therefore I will fill the "gap" by having a standard GFE clients in between them. In the end...everybody will have a great time!
I was fully booked yesterday and John4jayne came to see me as my last VIP client and i deliver exactly what he wanted in the session, simply because i had a great time management, thus even as the last client, i still can perform as my very best.
Some of us who do well..earning hundreds of thousands annually....few even close to a million
A good, successful, upscale provider is a smart, healthy, experienced person who like their client and is willing and can do a lot of things to fulfill her clients's sexual needs, fantasies and wants AND has an excellent time management thus can manage her schedule perfectly in order to deliver her best service to each client.
Each of client has their own needs and wants...and as a provider, we try to accomplish their needs and wants accordingly and correctly.
Some come to us only to enjoy our companionship...but some come really with so many sexual fantasies and needs in their mind.
Let me give you an example:
If a provider has 6 clients on that day...and each wants her to cum...do you think she can do her job best?
NO. We will be tired after the third clients.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability to cum.
Let me give you another example:
A provider see two clients today: one client like to talk and top her...and enjoy her company.
The other client want to have a domination session...with her wearing her her latex...he want her to cum and give him a golden shower.
Do you think each of them deserve to be charged the same?
NO. the other client has more needs and wants.
Note: Some girls have not even the ability or personality to do the domination/submission session.
Therefore, it is important for us, for me especially, to schedule the perfect time for a client to see me in order to give each and every client my best service.
I only can have max. 3 vip and domination clients a day..and the rest will be standard GFE sessions.
Those VIP clients..of course, cannot come every hour....so therefore I will fill the "gap" by having a standard GFE clients in between them. In the end...everybody will have a great time!
I was fully booked yesterday and John4jayne came to see me as my last VIP client and i deliver exactly what he wanted in the session, simply because i had a great time management, thus even as the last client, i still can perform as my very best.
Tia Phoenixx
For those ladies that can get away with a VIP rate god bless ya’s.
I tend to want to keep things as uncomplicated as I can, for me
All my clients are VIP’s. In these troubled times if a gentleman can
Afford my rate, all I can say is “ for these gifts we are grateful”.
toptgirl.com
Good example! This is laughable, but then again, she is "RATED #1 GFE IN US", (perhaps by the 'National TS Advisory Board') ... truly a legend in her own mind.
I can't imagine what independent, functioning adult would actually think he is going to get anything of value. And I don't even want to guess the opinion she must hold of us prospective clilents.
I can't imagine what independent, functioning adult would actually think he is going to get anything of value. And I don't even want to guess the opinion she must hold of us prospective clilents.
I'm tough or can be tough to get..but the truth is: I am here and you are there.
So cryptically profound!
... Wherever you go, there you are!
... Wherever you go, there you are!
Interesting topic 4 me and oddly enough the one VIP exp I had was w u Tia a couple yrs back in Philly it lasted 35 min and u were on the phone a second later takin a resi u were cute & sweet but it wasn't special at all really - this subject was opened and u opened the door - then again nobody bats a thousand
I can't imagine what independent, functioning adult would actually think he is going to get anything of value. And I don't even want to guess the opinion she must hold of us prospective clilents.
I'm tough or can be tough to get..but the truth is: I am here and you are there.
I can't imagine what independent, functioning adult would actually think he is going to get anything of value. And I don't even want to guess the opinion she must hold of us prospective clilents.
I'm tough or can be tough to get..but the truth is: I am here and you are there.
I've totally forgotten.
Did you come late?
Please send me a PM and explain it in details.
It only happens when somebody it's late..but i always offer them, a vip session with the rate of standard for the next time. Did I offer you this as well?
I obviously cannot make everybody happy. It requires two parties in order to make the session work.
oh..Milanoluv..i think of you.
Assuming that you are really genuine..i felt guilty doing that.
Another possibility is: I have cum for you..and some men..they come just for that..to see me cum (usually during lunch break)!
Many business men in NYC, paid me for the VIP rate, stayed for only 30 minutes due to lack of time and asked me cum for them..and usually we cum together. I gave them facial and they jerked off...and happy.
I appreciate every client who have chosen me..please send me an e-mail with your phone number.and i promise to give you a much better service next time if you are still willing to see me
Tia
Remember the nite well Tia and it was 4gotten until u all brought it up - I've been in the service industry all my adult life - every once in a while we all get in the "weeds" - how we handle it is what separates us all - ALWAYS remember without the customer we're all lookin 4 work
Assuming that you are really genuine..i felt guilty doing that.
Another possibility is: I have cum for you..and some men..they come just for that..to see me cum (usually during lunch break)!
Many business men in NYC, paid me for the VIP rate, stayed for only 30 minutes due to lack of time and asked me cum for them..and usually we cum together. I gave them facial and they jerked off...and happy.
I appreciate every client who have chosen me..please send me an e-mail with your phone number.and i promise to give you a much better service next time if you are still willing to see me
Tia
I agree, but yet you do not answer my question.
Why you only stayed there for 35 minutes?
I guarantee the full hour for a vip AND standard gfe client, unless if they want to leave earlier or if they come late.
I don't answer the phone during the session. It's always on a silent mode.
However, i clearly cannot satisfy everybody, therefore assuming that you are really a genuine client of mine. I want to know your real, honest, and objective input.
There was ONLY one VIP client in Philly who is also an active member of TER who was not happy, because he came too drunk and too nervous..so he was not able to cum on the appointed time, and had to leave because we had already spent almost 90 minutes (i gave him extra minutes for him), and the next client had been patiently waiting for 15 minutes in the lobby.
I felt bad for him, so i offered him a vip session of the rate of standard GFE for the next visit. I always do that.
This is my real, honest explanation.
Thanks,
Tia Phoenixx
So there you are Roger14, a lot of opinions, thoughts and answers, I read that you must do your homework, research, and if you have a Highly Reviewed provider, and they actually offer improved services, the VIP can be considered, but again I mostly think, "IMHO" that the ladies who offer a stand alone rate, for all inclusive and excellent service, are the ones who are honest, and deserve our support.
Thank you all for participating in this discussion.
I've tried the VIP thing a few times, and I've never felt like I was getting any special treatment at all, in fact, more like the opposite. That's been my experience, so now when I see that in a ladies ad, I pass on her altogether.
Fantastic response, sserviceman. It should be posted on every hobbyist's refrigerator, so that he can refer to it before he picks up the phone.
Some of the defensive responses to you are somewhat disconcerting. A couple of providers certainly didn't score points (not that they really care) and have pretty much enlightened us as to how they truly regard us and this hobby. Not that most of us thought any differently, but in our own little fantasy we played along, believing they're befriending us, while ignoring their ruse.
Face it: we're just a means for them to line their pockets with the "hundreds of thousand or millions" and really not much else, unless you care to think otherwise. Their "friendly" attitude here is part real I suppose, but mostly salesmanship *defending VIP is the key here), and the free advertisement and solicitation they get while drawing us in invaluable to them. Good for them, I suppose, even if the reality, when it hits you in the face, can be a turn-off. Stupid, they certainly are not. Rather shrewd, if you ask me.
sserviceman's response:
Posted by sserviceman, 6/25/2011 4:51:38 PM
Despite what they may tell you, a provider who is thinking of staying within the confines of her 'menu' while she is supposedly providing for your enjoyment is inherently more detached during the session. Think about it. How do you feel when in the middle of passion, you have to consider, or be reminded of rules on what is allowed, compared to a carefree time based on doing what you both (hopefully) enjoy--- frustrated?, detached, disappointed? The ideal client for some providers (thankfully not all) is one who accepts the price, plops his money on the table disregarding getting the provider's consent to give anything, and takes whatever he gets. Then he wonders why there are so many guys bitching on this board about how they got totally ripped off. Duh. Newsflash: Be a gentleman but recognize this is not a gentlemen's game. Got a suggestion for you, but it requres tuning off 'the little head' when coming thru the door or talking ot the phone, and you cannot be bashful either. Look her in the eye (mentally if on the phone), smile, tell her specifically everything you want, for how long and ask her what she wants. You can do this before or after the inital hug, but before taking out your wallet. Then shut up, watch her reaction and listen carefully. Be prepared to walk. But if OK, give her the money and have a good time. Charging more for more time, on the other hand, has nothing to do with enjoyment of the session because it has nothing to do with the emotional state during the session, unless of course it is so short that it is necessarily rushed.
-- Modified on 6/27/2011 1:35:14 AM
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