For those that find pleasure with TS providers, what is it about TS that does it for you? Do you consider yourself hetero, bi or homo?

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Hard to explain... can't paint everyone with the same brush. I know I'm not gay. I have no attraction to men. I only like very feminine and passable TS girls, and I prefer to be the top.

Since u have posed the question that means u r a little curious about the answer right ? When the day comes & u feel comfortable seek out someone that u may find attractive & make that phone call or 2 & have conversation w that person get comfortable & go for it !! Just maybe u might have ur answer !! Report back but b4 u go make sure u scroll down & look 4 "mellow soul's" guide for first timers then u will b ready 4 ur brave new world !!! Scratch that itch !!!

For most men, i think because we are feminine looking, and resemble a genetic girl.
Penis is just a sex organ, so it does not influence the attraction of men to tgirl in general

However, there are men who are looking for girls who have big dick and like to get fucked and still claim they are 100% straight.

These kind of men, make me laugh, if they think they are (straight)  LOL

On the contrary, they are men who like us simply because we are beautiful and feminine and pay little interest or even no interest in our penis.

I just had a first timer like that 2 days ago.

Why did he see me?
He told me he was curious, beside I'm her type.  He finds me attractive.

Most guys in the western world, come to see tgirls, because we have the combination of it, "best of both worlds", they like our feminine look and like our penis too.

conclusion:
Men who like tgirls come with various sexual orientation, needs and wants.  Some are (almost) gay, some are bi, some are almost straight (the right term for this is "bi curious"), and in rare occasion, few are curious (and horny) straight men.

cheers
Tia Phoenix

Love pussy, but sometimes you crave different things.  Not attracted to masculinity, but a feminine tgirl can be hotter then a genetic girl.  

I don't really care where I would fall under the label category, I don't have an attraction to men, but am very open about my attraction to tgirls.

Ask an "ass-man" what turns him on about asses? Or a "breast-man" about tits or a foot fetish guy or someone who's turned on by furries! LOL! You can describe it but you can't "explain" it...it's what turns me on.
  What do I call myself? gay/bi/homo/hetero...all of the above/ none of the above...I just call myself horny!   :

I was lucky enough to service Tia Phoenixx several years ago.  I met her because she is beautiful and because of her exquisite penis.  I can still get it up for genetic women but a long time ago I came to grips with the fact that I am a homosexual.  I believe all men who suck dick are queers

You crack me up......In your own words or close..."I have been sucking off uncircumsized latina cock off of Santa Monica and Western for over 20 years".    Its been awhile since I was up that way late night.  Wonder if it is still busy?

Great post hrdrockr! Sometimes I think people just spend too damn much time trying to understand or categorize sex. Why do I like what I like? Because I do. Does that mean I'm so and so label. No, it means I am comfortable with living out my fantasies. I've done everything under the sun at least once and enjoyed it all. Why limit myself? When I go to the Old Country Buffet, I get more than one piece of food too. LOL. I'll echo some other posts here and simply say you should try it for yourself, obviously it holds some allure for you.

Watch this video by Nina Arsenault on the subject "The Eroticization of MTF Transsexuals by Heterosexual Men". Note the title says "Heterosexual Men". nina explains this "3rd woman" concept, in that TS women are just another "type" of woman (like fat, skinny, outrageous, timid, butchie, etc). If you are worried about negating your masculinity by being attracted to TS, that is a guilt problem you have to deal with yourself, don't opress others by your forced categories. Open your mind. Here are the links..

Trying again...

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You can call yourself anything you want, you have to live with it, but just because you engage in a certain behavior, do NOT project and inflict your personal definitions on other people to try and justify your activities. I reject your position and I am certain I am far from the only one. Be careful who you call names, you risk a negative reaction to your bullying. Find other ways to validate yourself instead of bringing uninvolved people into you personal psycho-dramas to salve your obviously guilty conscience...

Most psychologists agree nowadays that sexuality lies somewhere along a "spectrum," if you will. Rarely, if ever, is anyone 100% on either end of the spectrum (i.e.,  "totally gay" or "totally straight").  Encounters & attraction to t-girls are simply another way of exploring my desires that fluctuate back and forth across the spectrum.  In other words, some days it's a t-girl, on others? A totally feminine GG, or a really butch chick who dresses, looks, and acts like a dude.

We all fall somewhere (roughly) in the middle....so, stop worrying so much & enjoy the journey....

I am bi for sure, I enjoy both sexes.  With a TS you get the absolute best of both worlds.  A fantasy and dream come true.  For me it's that simple.

sound like fun

I agree.  We have to be comfortable with ourselves, including our sexuality.

Some clients are afraid to tell the truths about their sexuality.  Don't be!  We are here as a provider, trying to give our best to fulfill your (sexual) desire.  That's the $ sign for LOL.

 
We live only once, so let's enjoy it..as long as we don't kill, rape, molest or torture our sex partner  

cheers,
Tia Phoenixx

I recently made the decision to try out a few bucket list items which centered around a visit to a TS lady.

Here was the attraction, and the result...

First, I consider gay or bi to be people attracted to the same sex.  I actually don't really fall into that category, but I was clearly curious.  I tried a massage from a man that ended with a Happy Ending.  Wasn't all that happy.  While I enjoyed the stimulation, looking up and seeing a guy was a total turn-off for me.

Then I called a TS Provider and went to see her.  COMPLETELY different, and now I understand the interest for me.
I enjoy on a rare occasion, the penis as part of the play event.  Before this, I had done plenty of things with a woman and a toy (strap on and vibrators) as well as plenty of them doing prostate massage on me.  What deep rooted emotional baggage led me here, I have no idea, but I do know this with 100% certainty, I really enjoyed a MFT 3some.  And I did suck her and I did enjoy it.  But looking up and seeing the woman was the thrill.  Especially hot was licking them as the woman rode the TS in CG...

for ME, it's almost like being able to blow myself while I am with a woman.  But love "regular" sex and 99% hetero action.  

The best way I can describe it is that when a penis is attached to a guy, I am 100% turned off and soft.  When it is attached to a beautiful passable woman, I can get into it.

Is that bi? Gay? I honestly don't know.  I had  some regrets but I am totally over them and comfortable in my situation, whatever it is.

Simply stated (may be too late for that)  I find a woman with a penis very exciting, I find a guy, or a guy in a wig to be a complete and total turn-off.

That help or just further muddy the water?

To answer that directly I consider myself Horny but if I must pick a label from your list  Hetero

I don't have sex with men because it does not turn me on. Why do I like sex with a TS? I don't know. I don't care. I just like it. Love sex with woman as well. Most importantly is sex with an open and willing partner who enjoys receiving ( easy ) AND giving ( more difficult) Pleasure. I consider TS a completely 3rd Sex. Not man, not woman. Just very special and very interesting. Sex is suppose to be fun physically, emotionally, mentally without borders and labels. Most people like ice cream. Some do not. Of those who do, some only like chocolate. Others want to try all flavors. Life is short. The older we get the faster it moves. Do what you enjoy doing without putting labels on it that can mess with your head and cause you to have regrets or feel shame.

I have had the pleasure of Tia's company several times. She is a very warm and sensual person. Her comments are quite thoughtful here

As for the poster here who says if you enjoy sucking a TS cock it makes one Queer, I feel bad for you. That's not a very nice word to use, even on yourself

Hello there love...  

...always a sensible question, especially for the newer seekers, many of whom I know may often & even deeply question their own sexuality, and/or preferences, upon discovering or considering, a seemingly undeniable attraction, interest, or erotic fascination to TS women in general...  

...in my experience, if one is seeking a feminine TS woman (whether top, or bottom), then nearly 99% of all the people I have *ever* had contact with, in many years of erotic companionship, would consider themselves to be  *only*  completely hetero, straight, often married, & attracted  *only*  to women in general, with little or no desire to have any intimate contact with another male, at all...  

...there's just something at the primal level of sexuality for many that seems to ring bells of erotic & taboo excitement, & excite greater possibilities all over the place,  for what simply seems to be a very large segment of the hetero male population in general...  

 
...the image of a powerfully sensual and attractive woman with the prime organ of 'male' sexuality attached - just pushes people right over the edge of erotic fascination, on all kinds of levels....  ; )

 
...and I think it's always going to be one of the very best questions, especially when answered or discussed with care, intelligence, maturity, and respectfulness, and that it can truly help people (especially the nervous or uncertain new seeker) to better know themselves, explore their own desires and needs, to go beyond many stereotypes, confusions, and often negative portrayals, and not only in escorting & companionship, but also in society, as a whole... : )

 
...and just because it's worth doing, i'll burn another hole in the still common stereotype of TS women "must have all once been" gay men,  or are all drag artists, or many other media portrayed,  sometimes overblown,  and often "flambouyant" images, ....many of which are also often very far from the mark of being accurate, specifically where actual TS female women are concerned...  

 
Yes - I said  " actual female TS women",  and I think it is often invaluable to know the very real distinctions between "TG - Transgender"  in general, (a sometimes confusing term which would include effeminate male CD's, drag performers, Transvestites, hetero male crossdressers, etc)...

 
Yet it is  *ONLY*  those people  ( TS's )  which permanently, & irreversibly, (legally, socially, medically) are actually "transitioning"  TS women,  and it does *not*  "just come off at the end of the day",  so to speak...  

 
The main confusion that seems to trip people up is the difference between "Gender", and "sexual orientation".... the two are yes - deeply interconnected - because we are, in fact, sexual creatures, but specifically in the case of TS people, this distinction should be made.  There is a considerable difference for most TS people I have ever known, between gender, and sexuality...  

 
...and for most TS people, terms like "lifestyle choice" have little or nothing to do with it,  much less being a path that one walks just for the "entertainment of self and others".... (that is not a smack on anyone, just being extremely forthright versus stereotypical thinking which is still deeply prevalent for many...

 
so... as a woman that at age 4 (yes, age 4), I knew with an overwhelming *crystal* clarity of thought, to the very last cell of my being (and I do clearly very clearly) remember the dialogue in my mind and heart at that age, which said "I AM A GIRL!!!!!!!"....  

 
....and I clearly did not develop as any other "normal" male would...  smaller and weaker, built differently,  different mindset,  more sensitive,  and generally everything that would have been considered exceptional,  or more "normal" for a genetic girl...  and therefore -  simply not possible to be making a  "lifestyle choice"  at such an age... and this is also years before sexuality and hormones can factor into it...   and no sisters, no abuses, no encouragement in this... it simply just  "was"....   "inherent",  and "innate", within myself...

 
...at age 8, I still fully expected to develop normally as a girl, even though I was intellectually pretty far ahead of my peers... (and being completely terrorized everywhere I went already, just for being "the different one"),  ....even as far ahead as my mid-teens, I still had a magical hope that was all-consuming,  that God was simply just "late",  or something unexplainable had medically happened,  and why had I not developed normally as any other girl should... ?  

 
This is a core primal disconnect of gender and sexuality that occurs **ONLY**  in TS people, and is the driving impetus that eventually will also drive almost ALL of us, to literally risk everything in our lives,  and to "transition" between genders,  and eventually hope to reconcile ourselves to just be genuinely happy and more productive people than ever possible,  prior to that time....

 

As it was - I was never a gay male and would prefer to not date or see them should it ever arise,(mainly because gay men actually wish to simply find another man to connect with, *NOT* a woman or a girl), and I grew up falling in love with, and even today, am still deeply attracted to other females of all kinds, and then in my teens developed a "normal" healthy interest in mature gentlemanly people, and men in general, but *only* from a female perspective....  

 
...and as well, I never once thought God had made a mistake or I was 'born in the wrong body' so to speak...  

 
...to me, being a TS woman is a rare blessing unlike almost any other in human experience, due to several things:  our mixture of both feminine and masculine gender perspectives and characteristics, and it clearly sets us apart from the rest of humanity in some very obvious and distinctive ways....  

 
...not only that, but how many people actually get a "do-over" in life, and to the most extreme level" ?.... to "go back" to 4, or 5, or 6 years old, and no matter what the cost, or consequence, to literally begin life *anew*, as more whole, more honest, more free, more uncompromised, and more completely fearless than ever before, because this path both gives and requires that kind of freedom and personal sacrifice ? OMG yes ! a thousand times over... yes. and THAT is something worth doing, and most definitely worth sharing...

 
..in my experience, that kind of joy also translates erotically, and is definitely even more worth the sharing of... but... I digress somewhat... so...  

 
There was a similar thread posted a few months back, and many here posted extensively on it, and I also went into great depth in terms of the TS experience, the kinds of gentlemen (and some women) that are attracted to TS women in general, some of the older cultural history of TS people (far predating the last couple thousand years of "binary-only" (two gender) thinking)...

 
these kinds of discussions are important because personal comfort and better understanding, as well as discretion in finding the right (for you) or best choices possible, when exploring the possibility of making what can actually be sometimes very deeply personal and extremely intimate connections with us....  

 
...some of which, for some people, may have lifelong (hopefully only positive) impacts, or at very least, open additional awesomely fun perspectives, and should ideally help us all to get more of what we seek, desire, need, and want to find, in intimate relations and erotic explorations of all kinds...

 
here's the link:  http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewall.asp?MessageID=98665&boardID=19#98665

...hope this helps a little....

 
LoveRespectAlways,

Namaste'

 
: )

 
TheAngelaGirl

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Iconsider myself hetero, but find the possibility of being pounded, by a live cock exciting!

All young men fantasize about sucking their own cock so everyone is homosexual? I think the attraction to TGirls is just an extension of that fantasy. I do not see myself as gay or Bi, I also do not think a true transsexual see herself as a dude. Simple minds need simple explanations, there are none here.

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Yes, I was just reviewing my history of sexual experiences a couple of days ago and came to some personal realizations related to this topic. First, you should know that I typically feel that overall I have rarely if ever felt satisfied with my sexual history in general and given my age will never be. That being said I have had a fairly wide variety of experiences. My dissatisfaction is mostly in the area of quality and consistency. In other words, I never felt like I got enough good sex. I'm not oversexed. I just started late and never felt like I got as much or as good as I think many people have. However, with my slightly below average quantity I now know what I really like and why. I am mostly attracted to the passion in my partner, whoever that may be. I'm talking about that raw animalistic hunger for sex with me or just sex period right here right now that I rarely have seen from my partner. I've experienced this a few times with females and it was great. My problem with women is it is too rare compared to my experiences with TVs and transgirls. Now you can say that is just my bad luck and i would have to agree with you, but I think it could be somewhat related to biology. I believe transgendered people are typically more sexually potent because they have higher levels of testosterone naturally despite the effects of hormone therapy. This fact simply make them more into sex than the average female. I'm not saying some females don't show this because they do and I've experienced this. I just think transgirls and males are more reliably prone to be more into sex. It is that higher propensity for passion that attracts me the most. The other thing is that my understanding that transgirls have a unique familiarity of what men like and know how we like it makes them simply better as giving me what I like. In most of my experiences with females I have felt like I am giving more than I'm getting in return. With most transgirls I feel the opposite and I love this. It turns me on. Again I do believe this is mostly my bad luck with women and fairly good luck with transgirls. Regardless this is what has shaped my thinking and my sexual orientation. Women are great to look at but they have rarely delivered for me, but my more  limited experiences with transgirls have been better. Also I just seem to be more comfortable with transgendered girls. I never feel like I have to hide anything with them because they are what I truly want. I always feel like I am faking it with females. So, in a nutshell I love transgirls because they understand what I like, like it as much as I do and make me feel more comfortable about wanting it that way. I don't like sex with men because it can be too much and can feel like I'm being dominated which I don't like at all. This is also why I could never be a bottom. Transgirls just give me the right amount of aggressive interest in sex with me without going too far trying to dominate me. I like being in control but want my partner to really want it. I only get this balance from transgirls and the rare female. I'm sure this is just my bad luck with women mostly. It could also be that most of my experience with transgirls has been paid for. However my most passionate experience with a transgirl wasn't. I guess it is true that you are who you are because of the experiences in your life.  
 

Yes, I was just reviewing my history of sexual experiences a couple of days ago and came to some personal realizations related to this topic. First, you should know that I typically feel that overall I have rarely if ever felt satisfied with my sexual history in general and given my age will never be. That being said I have had a fairly wide variety of experiences. My dissatisfaction is mostly in the area of quality and consistency. In other words, I never felt like I got enough good sex. I'm not oversexed. I just started late and never felt like I got as much or as good as I think many people have. However, with my slightly below average quantity I now know what I really like and why. I am mostly attracted to the passion in my partner, whoever that may be. I'm talking about that raw animalistic hunger for sex with me or just sex period right here right now that I rarely have seen from my partner. I've experienced this a few times with females and it was great. My problem with women is it is too rare compared to my experiences with TVs and transgirls. Now you can say that is just my bad luck and i would have to agree with you, but I think it could be somewhat related to biology. I believe transgendered people are typically more sexually potent because they have higher levels of testosterone naturally despite the effects of hormone therapy. This fact simply make them more into sex than the average female. I'm not saying some females don't show this because they do and I've experienced this. I just think transgirls and males are more reliably prone to be more into sex. It is that higher propensity for passion that attracts me the most. The other thing is that my understanding that transgirls have a unique familiarity of what men like and know how we like it makes them simply better as giving me what I like. In most of my experiences with females I have felt like I am giving more than I'm getting in return. With most transgirls I feel the opposite and I love this. It turns me on. Again I do believe this is mostly my bad luck with women and fairly good luck with transgirls. Regardless this is what has shaped my thinking and my sexual orientation. Women are great to look at but they have rarely delivered for me, but my more  limited experiences with transgirls have been better. Also I just seem to be more comfortable with transgendered girls. I never feel like I have to hide anything with them because they are what I truly want. I always feel like I am faking it with females. So, in a nutshell I love transgirls because they understand what I like, like it as much as I do and make me feel more comfortable about wanting it that way. I don't like sex with men because it can be too much and can feel like I'm being dominated which I don't like at all. This is also why I could never be a bottom. Transgirls just give me the right amount of aggressive interest in sex with me without going too far trying to dominate me. I like being in control but want my partner to really want it. I only get this balance from transgirls and the rare female. I'm sure this is just my bad luck with women mostly. It could also be that most of my experience with transgirls has been paid for. However my most passionate experience with a transgirl wasn't. I guess it is true that you are who you are because of the experiences in your life.  
 

My sentiments exactly. Well said

$350 for 3 hrs? Please come to LA!

...just thought I would share this, as many hetero men I have known, sometimes *do* deeply question their motivations, and even their sexuality,  as either a direct result of,  or indirect relational context to the, "why/how am I attracted to TS" ? question...

 
if you are a man, and you walk down a city street (or beach, or wherever you may be), and *only* girls/women in general (including thoughts or fantasies of TS females) instinctively turn your head, and you have **no** desire to sexually connect with another male person,  then you are most likely *only* a Hetero male,  and that will likely never change,  no matter how much you are attracted to the idea of TS women (...TS women, are just generally NOT ever, men in dresses)...

 

if you walk down the street, and both females *and* other males instinctively turn your head and sense of attraction, then you are likely some variant of what may be considered as "bisexual".

 

if you walk down the street and are more instinctively attracted to males than females, then you are most likely a gay male, and generally would have either very little, or almost *no* interest whatsoever in TS women, as your orientation is towards other *men*,  and *not* women of any kind, including real TS women.

 

Simple and forthright...

 
LoveRespectAlways,

 
Namaste'

 

 
AngelaGirl