I must admit, I have an interest in seeing a TS, but isnt calling them "girls" a bit of a denial.  These are not girls, they are guys, taking hormones.  Being with one, certainly is not gay, to me since they are not, seemingly objects of desire by gays, but ought we not call a spade a spade?

You want some kind of answer to that post?  See a transsexual or don't.  

Good answer.

Anyone can argue they aren't girls or they are bottom line... life is short do what gives you pleasure.

Aren't you shooting yourself in the foot on this one?

By using your own logic, if TS's are only guys that take hormones, then that means if you have sex with one, you are having sex with a guy.  If you have sex with men, that makes you gay.

....if you want to call a spade a spade.

TS/Shemale/Transsexual: is someone who looks like a woman with breast implants, natural long hair, body like a woman and pennis, MANY TS'S DO NOT TAKE HORMONES  for their business, but they still looking like a woman, most of the t's care a lot for their beauty more like a real woman, many of them have great body that usually we don't see in women.

I LOVE WOMEN, BUT SOMETIMES I LIKE TO HAVE MY FANTASIES WITH A TS.

Gay: is a guy who looks like man and have sex with an othet one like him.

This is the difference.

Usually men who like ts's are bisexual because always they are looking for someone who looks feminine.

Men who like ts's don't like gays who look like a man.
It's our fantasy to have a woman with a pennis.

I don't like gays, I'm not gay, I'm bisexual, but if you want to call me like that doesn't matter.

Everybody have their own choice, it doesn't mean that we are crazy on unnormal, the medicine told us years ago that is part of the life.

I have a respect for your choice, and that you are a straight guy, and I only ask you to have a respect for our preference.

If you don't like homosexual or bisexual people just have a respect because we don't bother anyone like you are doing now to us.

Thank you.

Well....according to the state of Oregon, I am female. If I run abreast of the law and go to jail, I go to (egads lets hope not) a womens correctional facility (thank god for liberal Portland). In fact if it wasn't for the line of work I'm in, nobody would ever think I am a guy. And I am not ultra-feminine, I hardly ever wear makeup (maybe a smidge of lipstick), and I never seem to hear complaints. Fact of the matter is, if you wanna be insensitive, if you want to make statements on subjects you have no knowledge of, go right ahead. Meanwhile, the people who love us, live with us, work with us, spend very little time questioning our grip on reality; and generally enjoy some truly wonderful companionship.

Simple answer, the TS Girls I have been with see themselves as women, who am I to argue. It is no for me to define another. We all define ourselves thru our actions.

I got this from a similar post a long time ago.....

Short answer: Sexuality is complicated.  Stop pretending that there are nice, neat labels for people and you'll feel better.


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Star, I think you fail to see adambeded's logic.  Though adambede  claims TS's to be guys, if he has sex with a TS he is not gay since TS's are not the objects of gay men's desires.  Hence using his logic he can have sex with Abe Vigoda and still not be gay as no gay man would desire sex with Abe Vigoda.

Well, a ts IS a guy...that is every cell in 'his' body is XY...not XX.  Its just cosmetic, outer-layer changes that LOOK like a girl.

I am not writing to judge anyone, just thinking out loud, and trying to categorize, myself, more than anything.

I have fantasized about being with a TS.  In my fantasy, this TS is very very feminine, looks like a beautiful girl, petite, soft voice, etc.  But my ultimate TS would have a  huge cut penis, and would be able to get very erect and also be able to ejaculate a healthy load of semen, which I have a fantasy of swallowing.

But the thought of being with another guy, stubbled beard, hairy arms, anything at all masculine is repulsive to me.

Like I said, Just thinking out loud.  Never done it, want to, hesitant and scared.  Dont know if thats how most start.