I won't engage a provider with a "VIP" rate mainly because it forces me to ask up front before we even meet what I get for the additional money. At the same time providers list this other tier of service in the advertisement, they expressly forbid talking about "sexual acts"...blah, blah...
When a girl lists a rate for an hour and then lists a higher VIP rate for the same hour, what's the difference? No flames, please - I'm just trying to learn before I make the call.
If a client wanted to book me for my VIP, I get so excited. ![]()
As I am sure you would - but this does not answer the question - I'm still curious...
...PERIOD...there should be no special rate structure, except for hardcore fetish or "special requests" that are not in you normal repertoire and reduced rate for extended rendezvous. If the gent is squeaky clean, sober and respectful, why is there is a glass ceiling to what you offer in a regular session? Yes, chemistry comes into play and you will not have the same with everyone, but at least make him as happy as humanly possible. Though I don't expect it, many of my gents leave me a little extra because they feel I go above & beyond and that I try to develop a sense of intimacy with them. Ladies, many times that something extra is way more than the difference of what a provider charges for their normal and VIP sessions. A gent saw over a hundred ads and he chose to contact you, be thankful and humble about that and treat him like the Very Important Person he DESERVES...if he wants mediocre sex he could stay home...haha...dfk, Rachel
Thank you, Rachel - I appreciate all that you said...now I would like to meet the lady behind these thoughtful words - when will you be visiting NYC?
I find VIP rates with no additional info extremely misleading.
I never would book... and those who list them absent any additional info probably lose biz because of it.
That's it.
It's a sales ploy. For the lower payment, you get a tease and hardly any contact beyoned a hand job if you're lucky, while she goes on a fishing expedition to find out what more you want as your unfulfilled desire grows. Whatever that is she's going to say something like "I provide that in the VIP session" hoping you have extra money to pay for it. If and when you do pay for it, you'll get a mechanical act from a person who can do that in an emotionally detached session.
So don't count on a specfic answer to this question from any provider because the real answer is 'whatever you really want and will pay for'. She finds that out during the session. The technique is similar to a 'cold read' done by psychic fortune tellers when they assess what their customers are really looking to hear.
I have to very strongly agree with what most of Rachel posted, and also add a few thoughts of disagreement to friend sserviceman, loves...
To say "don't count on any specific answer to this question from 'any' provider because the real answer is 'whatever you really want and will pay for"....
....That may certainly be true across a wide variety of providers and services, but...
i must take a bit of issue with that, as it seems to be a very harshly cold, critical, and judgementally blanket view of all providers, and stated in such a way that cannot possibly be honestly or accurately qualified, as no one here, could have ever possibly been with everyone else out there, nor know what, really in fact, lies between the ears, or within the heart, of any truly good provider, that actually MAY legitimately care about this kind of question/issue.
I would agree with Rachel, 1000% , that to treat EVERY client like a VIP, regardless of donation or class of service issue, unless something SPECIAL is specifically requested otherwise by that person themselves... or offered as "truly extra" by a truly good provider, then maybe that should be the honorable rule across the board without exception.
in direct response to the initial question: If that provider has a very legitimate reason for listing in that way - and regularly lists different classes of services, and which would only consider providing even MORE absolutely exceptional services than what they usually offer to share - something really, truly extra, and they are already an excellent provider, i could see the sense in that.
If part of what serviceman stated is true, and more of the norm for listings like that, then that really does seem kind of sad....
Should someone wish to spend (considerably) more time than would be normal, or have a special request such as fetish outside the "norm", or a long distance outcall or extended travel and companionship, then i believe it is entirely legitimate to class that into a different category of gift exchange, and be utterly up front about it, with that client, beforehand...
....and, even then, it should not change one SINGLE whit of how that provider goes about doing things if they really care about :
a) The quality of truly personal service they offer, without exception, to EVERYONE,
b.) has the both ability and enough genuine love and respect not only for what they do (but every potential client) to effectively carry off the above, and not do it in a "mechanical and emotionally detached session" and,..
c.) technique is similar to a "cold read done by psychic fortune tellers....when they...find out what their customers are really looking to hear" - -
....as most so called "psychics", are fakes and frauds to begin with, this differs considerably from a real flesh and blood TS female that is providing tangible, real, physical, mental, emotional, and intellectual intimacy, and i dont believe is a fair comparison across the board to ALL providers...
I have never changed my rates, nor my own ways of practicing genuine and extremely caring connections, unless special circumstances, or ONLY special requests, as described above, demanded it, or...
the client was experienced enough to know the differences, and had no issue with changes based on what they wanted, in total mutual agreement...
In fact, i dont mind losing a good number of potential seekers in my own screening, because there are things i simply will NOT do, or cannot relate to and still remain genuinely passionate...
...and if that is ever the case, i will either do my best to stretch my own ability to learn and grow (as long as the client knows that is the case and we are mutually agreed with being open and patient to one another), or, be up front about me not being interested in that kind of thing, whatever it may be, and politely excuse myself to recommend they keep looking elsewhere.
A good provider has to maintain her own standards as well, to protect every aspect of her life and practices, especially if working or living in a highly discretionary area/region, and should reserve the right to do so....
One often even MUST do so, especially if ever increasing a rate for specific services will immediately increase the screening out of less desirable types, and connecting with those that are not sketchy, or represent some form of compromise at a critical level of quality and genuine engagement.
Just an honest thought, straight from the heart.... Utterly No offense intended. Not everyone is the same, and not everyone should be painted with the same broad brush strokes...
Most Respectfully, always,![]()
The AngelaGirl
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I'm in full agreement with Rachael, that being said....let the reviews of the provider in question speak for themselves...if she is highly reviewed then you know your automatically in for VIP treatment.
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I won't engage a provider with a "VIP" rate mainly because it forces me to ask up front before we even meet what I get for the additional money. At the same time providers list this other tier of service in the advertisement, they expressly forbid talking about "sexual acts"...blah, blah...
everyone here seems correct in some way or another. It should not ever be confusing, to find and have good fun, with a nice girl, but it seems it often can be.
Sounds like you already know how to take the "confusing" out of the equation, love... you answered it yourself.
If someone is not willing or able to be up front all the way around in terms of what to expect for what you are expected to offer, then maybe, there is someone else that will be. Or, maybe, is at least willing to make the effort to take some risks of being more forthcoming, or politely but discreetly open if possible...
I think even in some ways as your query pointed out, it depends on what BOTH the inquirer and the provider are comfortable with discussing or clearing before they meet. Some may go that way, some may not. If you both are ok with that, then go for it. If either of you are not open or comfortable with whatever it takes to qualify anything more "specific", then, well... You make the call, so to speak, love... either way...![]()
AngelaGirl
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Thank you to all for your input on this- it has helped me a lot - you are great!
W/O VIP, there was no 'interaction'....she watched a masturbation session....it was an upsell since there was no indication what VIP meant.....learned a lesson on this!
I agree that if there is a listed incall and VIP incall on the same ad then that makes the provider seem less appealing. However, if there is only a VIP incall listed, i don't see any harm. The intended implication could be that every incall is a VIP session.