Star,
Thanks for sharing your wealth of insight with us on this board. You have a way of cutting straight to the heart of the discussion and your opinions are always clear, compassionate, and honest. You've shown a very likeable and provocative intelligence.
You will leave a void behind.
Ciao
-- Modified on 12/27/2004 10:53:26 PM
I was driving on the freeway listening to AM radio and a report came in not too long ago that apparently a U.S. Marine stationed in 29 Palms allegedly killed a transsexual streetwalker in Hollywood and then killed himselk or police shot him after a brief car chase. If anyone can post a link to the story it would be helpful..............
This is all I could find. Not much information...
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A 29-year-old Marine was fatally shot early Sunday after police said he killed a transgender prostitute in Hollywood, led officers on a high-speed chase and then pointed a gun at them in a parking lot near the LAPD Northeast Division station in Atwater Village.
Police did not identify the Marine, who was from Reseda and was a military policeman at the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center in Twentynine Palms. Investigators said it was not clear whether he was killed by officers or himself.
"It's a sad situation," said Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell. "Here's a guy who had his life ahead of him and in a very short period of time threw it all away."
The Marine had apparently picked up the unidentified prostitute, whom he believed was a female, in Hollywood, police sources said.
After an apparent dispute, he allegedly shot the victim in the head and dumped the body in a cul-de-sac off of Melrose Avenue. Police pursued him on surface streets and the freeway through Hollywood after a witness described his vehicle.
During the chase the Marine called his mother and sister and said he had shot a man who had tried to rob and carjack him, police said. The chase ended at a parking lot several blocks from the police station at San Fernando Road and Fletcher Drive.
LAPD spokeswoman Sara Faden said police first shot beanbag rounds at the Marine and then fired bullets at him after he pointed a handgun at them.
This news story doesn't contain much info...
Here's another link...
Thanks cruiser1, let's just pray for the victim in this case and their family. I hate to speculate, but it appears that the motive was an initial reaction which didn't include much thinking on his part. It is a shame that this had to occur. If anyone else reading this post knows any additiional information, it would help. I knew the TS that Sylvia Boots killed last year, it's unfortunate.
The reaction of the Assistant Chief of the LAPD to this tragedy speaks volumes; the only quote reported is in reference to the Marine who murdered a fellow human being because of her Tg status:
"It's a sad situation," said Los Angeles Police Department Assistant Chief Jim McDonnell. "Here's a guy who had his life ahead of him and in a very short period of time threw it all away."
Does anyone else find this statement disturbing and callous to the extreme? Where is any expression of sympathy for the victim? Such outright disregard for the lives of transgender street people is inhuman. Most of them have been abandoned by their families and left to fend for themselves on the streets as best they can. Considering all they've been subjected to in their young lives, many of them are remarkably gentle and sweet.
It is shameful that we live in a world that so devalues a human life; that can muster up sympathy for the murderer of a transgender prostitute but not for his victim.
You can almost hear the subtext of the LAPD quote aloud; "She deserved it for pretending to be a woman and victimizing this poor Marine".
Shame on you, Jim McDonnell. And anyone who thinks like you.
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This will probably be my last post here, but I just wanted to say...
Good for you, bracbra. I'm so glad someone brought that up. It was the first thing I noticed when I read the statement.
And once the victim is dead, the killer can say anything he wants about her. "Oh "he" was trying to rob me and carjack me" . Could it be true? Possibly. But if he was going to get caught after a police chase, it sounds a lot better for him to say THAT, then saying he wanted to try some tranny cock and then got guilty about it and freaked out.
So long everyone.
Star,
Thanks for sharing your wealth of insight with us on this board. You have a way of cutting straight to the heart of the discussion and your opinions are always clear, compassionate, and honest. You've shown a very likeable and provocative intelligence.
You will leave a void behind.
Ciao
-- Modified on 12/27/2004 10:53:26 PM
bracbra ---- It might be wise not to post judgement on a quote from an article. As we all know, this is just a small piece of what was probably spoken about in regards to the incident. I know a few reporters and they tend to post only certain parts of the "COMPLETE" conversation, because of time or space provided.
I think if we were not there to hear all that was said, we should probably not post the blame on the Police Department Asst. Chief.
If anyone in this situation is to blame as far as what was reported or how it was reported - would be the REPORTER, until we know exactly what was said.
While it is an insensitive statement I don't find it so bad that it would disturb me. Remember from info gathered the prostitute tried to pass themselves as a genetic woman which is 100% wrong. I am not saying they deserved to get killed for this but there are dangers in doing what they tried to do.
Hangman-
Syliva killed a TS???
I was with her one night and she was so kool, not nearly the attitude of many TS's
She treated me like a freind and BF not like a pice of crap.
And she allegedly killed someone????
I havent been going to Peanuts and Club L but like 2 or 3 times a year for the last 3 years or so so Im in shock.
More info, who she kill?
Who got killed by the Marine??
Enquiring minds want to know.
How tragic. What a way to be taken from this world. My deepest heartfelt condolences to the family and friends of the woman killed. May she eternally rest in peace.
Yes best wishes and condolences to the family and friends of this poor girl. does anyone know who she was??
Sounds like the Marine was incompetent like his buddies in Iraq. I'm glad he is dead.
Whoa, just because ONE marine is an asshole and a murderer, let's not tarnish the courage and sacrifice those thousands of other poor guys are making in a war that makes less sense every day. It's not the Marines' fault we're fucking up in iraq. Though it might be the government's fault the men they've trained to kill anyone who's different come home and do just that.
I agree let's not blame the Marine Corps for one cowardly person. As far as I know, the Marines teach you to kill the enemy NOT anyone who is different. So lets be sure we characterize this bastard properly, he is a loathsome individual who committed dastardly act.
May our friend and sister RIP......
May she get the respect and love in Heaven she didn't find here....
TA
I couldn't have said it better, TA. I haven't been able to stop thinking about her. Whoever she was, I think it's safe to assume that her life was not an easy one, but to be taken away in such a tragic, senseless, and violent way, and for WHAT ? Nor is there any justice or righteousness in how her gender is mocked and marginalized via the comments of the Chief-of-Police and the press. She's almost decribed to the point as if she's subhuman, and simply the footnote to a cowardly Marine's squandered career.
I don't believe in any god, but I really do hope she is in a better world where bigotry and hatred are marginalized to the hilt, and where she and others like her are considered the "straight" ones and are thus adorn everyday with the respect, dignity, and adulation that they too are entitled to. Take care and rest in peace, my queen, wherever you are. You are in my thoughts for whatever they're worth.
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you can look up the articles about Gwen Araujo in the bay area. The descriptions in the newspapers had the same bias. for some reason her death affected me a great deal, perhaps because I lived by her at one time and this happened in 'my' bay area, and how did this happen here ?
perhaps if Gwen's death happened in texas or some goddess forbidding place like it, it wouldn't of been reported at all, perhaps that is the difference.
Aut.