Got tired of my LT SB so jumped back on to SA. Reactivated my old account and opened a new one. So using two accounts. Then an interesting thing happened.
I had ladies quoting rates from 300 to 500 per meet. I then go to my second account and offer 200. I say, "200 for three to four hours." Some of them accept and others come back with 250 or 300, but almost 90 % drop their rates.  
So the lesson is that negotiate rates. Also don't go by the terms "practical" or "moderate" or "substantial" most ladies don't even know that it signifies a dollar amount.

No one is even close to getting them. Especially monthly.

She also has on her profile the statement "don't contact me unless you make at least $500k year"

 
I almost didn't even bother contacting her, but she is smoking hot and just my type so I gave it a shot. I've seen her several times now and I give her $300 for a date of several hours.

 
I agree with the both of you, the "published rates" mean nothing IMHO.

I agree with what's been said so far.  I'd also add that if a girl says her expectations are minimal it really does usually mean she is open to a very modest gift amount.

I agree completely on "Minimal", those seem to be on the modest end.  Some are actually pretty nice, there isn't a lot of correlation between "hotness", "fun to hang out with" and price in my experience so far.

So, I read the first post about negotiating, but trying to line it up with my experience.  I'm in the Boston area, and I was kind of spoiled in my first two meetings, asked for 200 and 300 respectively so just went with the asking price, and all good both looks and personality.  Lately I'm casting a wider net and everyone is in the 500ish range (500, 600-750, 500, 400, 500, 600, 800 (!), 450).  Usually phrased as "for my last arrangement, I got X per meeting".  Pushing back seems to cause either ghosting or blocking, although I realize if someone stops responding and I give it time, they may come back or I could ping them in a week or so to see if they've rethought their ask.

Question is: are these rates normal for this kind of area, or are these just high "starting" numbers?  I'd like to get a few more under my belt to see how things go, but obviously if you start at 500 you aren't going lower very easily for later meetings.  So far, only a couple can host, so hotel is 200-300 on top of that.

Still much better than providers cost-wise and also to me experience-wise (feels more GF / organic, call me an idiot if you'd like).  Some of the folks I've seen, we talk (text) a fair amount and it's less "all business" than the provider world, and even if it is kind of BS it still works for me.  But even if I wise up and it's just provider-esque, it is still 500+200 for 3-4 hours vs 400-550/hour so a better deal.

Love the great advice on this forum, appreciate any feedback.  Thanks!

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and I suppose a lot of SB's will deny it happens too if they were ever asked, but it happens to me all the time. I do indeed often get lower rates on subsequent dates than I do on the first date.  

 
I have spent a lot of time in the hooker world, so getting an overnight date, or even just a multi hour date for $500 is a relative bargain and if I really want to fuck a certain girl am I really going to deny myself the pleasure of fucking her over a difference of a couple of hundred bucks? but going forward, if she likes me I have found that many of these women will dramatically lower their demands if I promise to see them often. I have offered (and have had my offer accepted) several different SB's as little as a hundred bucks a date, but with the caveat that I will see them 3-4 times a week if they want to. Look at it from their POV, they can work forty hours a week at 12 bucks an hour to make less than $400 a week after taxes, or then can see me for a few hours a week for the same amount of money?

 
Hookers will look at this and think to themselves "what a cheap ass" but make this offer to a girl who can only dream of an extra $1,500 dollars a month while trying to put herself through school or to supplement her shit job and it starts looking pretty good to many of these girls.

I know that big city rates are higher, but I also know that the amount they ask for first is often just a fishing expedition to see who will bite.  Negotiating a price you like is always a good idea.  And if they say they got X amount last time, they may just be fantasizing.  Far be it from me to call them liars!  You can always come back and tell them about your experiences, ie, your last SB was happy with $200.  (which for me is actually true, btw)

A friend has been looking in Boston, and he has gotten a lot of $800 asks.  He also got some at $500.  My impression is that it is an expensive city for sugaring.  But try for $400 or maybe less.

Try to find some places/times where and when the hotel costs are lower as well.

but many of these girls have to drive an hour or more to get here so I will give them $300.  Right now I have a regular I see as close to once a week as I can for $300 per visit, but she drives close to an hour and a half to see me.  I look at it as it's gonna cost me more than $100.00 for a decent hotel room and their ass is on the road a couple hours or more instead of me, so it's well worth it.