The Erotic Highway

Is foreign hobbying immoral?
TheLoveGoddess 2862 reads
posted
1 / 10

Interesting question, homersimpson085,

And one sure to stir people's emotions in either polarized direction. What you would need to do is ask yourself if prostitution is immoral in the first place, since a moralist would probably tell you that there is no difference in terms of selling bodies, whether on domestic or foreign soil.

Next, you will need to examine the economics of Singapore versus the economics of the United States. Is a "sex worker" more exploited in the Rust Belt where the economy is under duress, versus in New York where the same lady could command much higher fees just by virtue of a difference in prices? In addition, is prostitution in Singapore completely controlled by middlemen? And what is the difference between an "agency" in NYC versus the same in Singapore?

Now what about coercion? Do you believe that every woman in Singapore is "coerced" to engage in prostitution? If you do, then I've got some good news for you. You can find high dollar hotties in S-pore who do nothing but consort with wealthy VIPs and who do it for exactly the same reasons as women in the United States. By the same token, there surely are human trafficking victims in Singapore, just like there are tragic sex abuse cases in Ohio.

In short - caveat emptor. If you want to assure yourself of finding a woman who is in it happily, willingly and voluntarily, then look around on sites that promote these types of women. Generally, they charge higher fees for their services, their websites are tastefully designed and they cultivate a very specific image. There are plenty of those in Singapore. Book an entire evening with one of them, cough up some "reasonable" dough and have a great time.

It's really simple - if you don't want to be a sex tourist, don't act like one,
The Love Goddess

Bostonguy57 48 Reviews 2947 reads
posted
2 / 10

There is probably no way to be sure if every lady in the situation you describe is being forced or not.

Years ago I visited some AMPS in California.  I had two very good experiences with women that appeared to be having a good time. The third experience was terrible because the girl was clearly exhausted and miserable. A few months later I hooked up with an indie Korean provider who gave me the low-down on how many, not al, AMPS find their girls. I was appalled at the stories she told and my mind immediately went back to that last AMP girl I had seen on my California trip.  I decided that, since I was never going to know walking into an AMP if the girl was there of her own free will or not I just wasn't ever going to go to one again...and I haven't.

Stereotypes? Well, it wouldn't be fair to say that every sex worker in an AMP or working in a foreign country is being forced to do it but if it bothers you, as it does me, then I would say your best option is to avoid any situation that you are unsure of.

dingaling1972 5425 reads
posted
3 / 10

They all have middlemen. I would MORE concerned that some of these overseas agencies employ underage children.

homersimpson085 2 Reviews 4302 reads
posted
4 / 10

I am visiting Singapore but am hesitant to hobby here even though it is cheap and legal. Frankly I could not care less about the legal aspect, but I have scruples about using "sex workers". I don't like the idea that middlemen control them. I also don't like that they are not in this line of work by personal choice. Both these things just kill the mood for me. Are these just false negative stereotypes?

mrfisher 115 Reviews 2761 reads
posted
5 / 10

She visited the US to attend classes here and worked as an escort, and was a terrific one too.

I got the impression from her that independents in Singapore work very much like independents here.

I'd name her but her reviews are down and I believe she is no longer working as an escort.

madiba51 2853 reads
posted
6 / 10

Posted By: TheLoveGoddess
Interesting question, homersimpson085,

And one sure to stir people's emotions in either polarized direction. What you would need to do is ask yourself if prostitution is immoral in the first place, since a moralist would probably tell you that there is no difference in terms of selling bodies, whether on domestic or foreign soil.

Next, you will need to examine the economics of Singapore versus the economics of the United States. Is a "sex worker" more exploited in the Rust Belt where the economy is under duress, versus in New York where the same lady could command much higher fees just by virtue of a difference in prices? In addition, is prostitution in Singapore completely controlled by middlemen? And what is the difference between an "agency" in NYC versus the same in Singapore?

Now what about coercion? Do you believe that every woman in Singapore is "coerced" to engage in prostitution? If you do, then I've got some good news for you. You can find high dollar hotties in S-pore who do nothing but consort with wealthy VIPs and who do it for exactly the same reasons as women in the United States. By the same token, there surely are human trafficking victims in Singapore, just like there are tragic sex abuse cases in Ohio.

In short - caveat emptor. If you want to assure yourself of finding a woman who is in it happily, willingly and voluntarily, then look around on sites that promote these types of women. Generally, they charge higher fees for their services, their websites are tastefully designed and they cultivate a very specific image. There are plenty of those in Singapore. Book an entire evening with one of them, cough up some "reasonable" dough and have a great time.

It's really simple - if you don't want to be a sex tourist, don't act like one,
The Love Goddess
-- Modified on 1/1/2011 4:43:28 PM

beenthere255 11 Reviews 2590 reads
posted
7 / 10

I don't know about Asia, but I know a lot of people in Europe.  Wherever sex work is legal and common, it will be very profitable.  And this makes sex workers commodities.  There's nothing wrong with someone offering a girl with little other money-making prospects a 'good foreign job'.  But because of the stigma attached to sex work, girls are typically poorly organized, poorly educated about what they're getting into, and therefore often exploited.  Sometimes they don't even know they're being exploited.

If the girl works in a brothel, club, or out of any sort of shared room, I guarantee you that the property owners are taking a big cut, and controlling things.  The girls are at best employees.  Even in well-run legal Northern European brothels with smart relatively well-organized women workers, the house typically takes 50-75% of what the customers pay.  

High-volume low cost sex workers tend to have problems which may or may not include exploitation.  If you don't want to contribute to whatever is driving them to work so hard for so little, then avoid these people and places.

If you don't like the idea that middlemen might be controlling the woman, or sharing in their profits, than your safest option is hiring an experienced independent escort who travels a lot and does outcall.  But even then there's no guarantee.  I know a woman who appeared totally happy and independent.  Seemed to have a boyfriend she liked, and thought sex work was easy and profitable.  But later I heard from a friend who worked nearby that her 'boyfriend' was not such a nice guy.  Abusive misogynistic steroid user who lived mostly off her money.  A pimp -- that's the word my friend used.  Or was he just a shitty boyfriend?

Feel better?  Good luck.

tec870 13 Reviews 2640 reads
posted
8 / 10

I was stationed overseas and frequented some of the local brothels...you can never be sure, but to be honest, the thought never occurred to me, nor did I care either way.  Even if you spend the extra cash, you will never be 100% that it is part of some larger organization.

So, if it makes you that uncomfortable, just say no.

undefined77 9 Reviews 2951 reads
posted
9 / 10

I just had a similar question on the newbie forum. I don't know how things are in asia I would imagine your biggest problem being underaged children. In Europe I tried to follow a simple rule by only using locals. Now that I'm in U.S. I only use well reviewed providers and try to stay away from AMPS. Not all "imported" providers are victims like the media and LE would have you believe. As long as you remember that usually those forced in to profession usually don't provide quality the business all about quantity.

AlfredReader 17 Reviews 1593 reads
posted
10 / 10

I don't know if it makes that much difference foreign or domestic.  Coersion goes hand in hand with control, and though control can be exerted many ways some kinds of encounters lessen that control and are therefor less desierable for most pimps/slavers.  Control is about both time and freedom..

Is a provider is getting out to see you, coming to you sans driver, is willing to exchange a personalized e-mail or two beyond the where/when/how much, all reduce (don't eliminate) the control factor.  Of course a provider can be 100% free-willed and still only do incall and hate e-mail.  But for me, what and how a provider communicates before any meeting is very important to whether I decide to see her or not.

I'm convinced all you can do is adjust the odds.  Some places and cultures don't allow you to call the shots as much as others, and if you are not comfortable about what is free-willed and what is not, wait till you're on different turf.

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