So, I was in negotiations via SB with a candidate, and she didn't know what bcd or ppm meant.  Is it possible I'm being set up by LE?  What would you do?  I bailed...

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These are abbreviations (especially bcd) that we use here, but are likely not widely known. My guess would be this is someone fairly new to the sugar scene, which might be a good thing.

bcd = behind closed doors
ppm = pay per meet

Yeah, for sure she's not a scientist, but being set up by Le gendarmerie - I doubt it!

Maybe I'll send her another message and dig a little deeper.  Thanks, Brothers!

As suggested, she's most likely new to the sugar world.  You might just propose that she do some online research on sugar dating terms.  Specifically, "bcd" and "ppm".

First, it makes you sound like you think she's essentially a hooker. Many SB's are very sensitive to that comparison and will not react well.  Yes, a small number ARE hookers who want an SD, or are just motivated to have sex for cash (what we call Bang and Bail, or BnB). But let them initiate the terms and abbreviations.  

 
Next, these are people entering a rather personal relationship together, not work colleagues "talking shop."  I suggest you stick with plain language rather than short cut terms which may not be (in this case were not) understood. That doesn't mean be explicit, especially in-site, or even in text. At least not at first.  How about "I'm looking for intimacy on our dates" as well as "I can help with bills or other expenses when we meet."  

 
Following a positive reaction to those, and within the proper context, you can go on to either ask her about "intimate preferences" or "boundaries." And you can ask how much she will need or make an offer of allowance or gifts.  

 
The idea here is to be human, compassionate, wise, generous and authentic. Using terms like BCD, P4P, PPM, BBFS, CIM, etc., just makes you sound like you only value her pussy, which may be true. But maybe try to avoid broadcasting your "jerk-ness". LOL  

Life is good

 
The Cat

I find that if ANYTHING is off in the discussion, it is bascially not going to work.   If they don't know what BCD or PPM means, they can look it up on google if they actually care.  Basically, I have a few that have worked out well from the very beginning but every one that had some sort of thing that makes me think "I can deal with that if everything else is ok" never works out.  

I have basically given up on SB's except maybe to take on a trip. Otherwise, too much time, too much effort, too much cost.  What I really want is to get intimate with regulars and there are enough of them around (and who are professional and show up on time) that SB's just become a waste of time.

Still, I LOVE reading this forum!   Keep those adventures coming!

Things fell apart with the SB in question. She gave me some worthwhile feedback that I appreciated in terms of how she received some of the things I said. She also was “off” enough that I’m glad we called it off. I think she’s a little more nutty than I want to deal with. I had a M&G with another candidate that went well, and she’s much better-looking and “normal”. We’re going to have our first date next week. $350 ppm. From what I see here, that might be a little high, but she is HOT. A similar provider would be at least $600 for an hour, so it seems I’m ahead to start. Fingers crossed that our date is a good one. I’ll keep you posted.

Well, first, congrats!  Won't be long for you to start giving us advice.    lol

What kind of feedback did #1 give you?

In my area, the 350 ppm is about 70%, more or less, of the going rate.

Good luck RH, hope this works out for you!  This will be your first SB, correct? Depending on where you live, 350 is not particularly high.  Anyway, if it's affordable for you to give her that amount regularly, then it could become a sustainable, ongoing arrangement that you will both enjoy a lot!  One tip; as you already know, we use a lot of abbreviations and terms here.  Like PPM.  But never use that term with your SB!  It creates the impression that you are paying her for a service, and most of these girls do NOT want to think of themselves as sex workers.  Keep it real with her, by always and only referring to her allowance as a gift.  She can accept a gift each visit, because you are so kind, rich, generous, and appreciative,  without implying that she's a hooker.

$350 in the DC area? I assume you live there based on your reviews. I would like to know where you find them. I guess it's possible if they live in Baltimore or some not-so-nice areas. The going rate for a TER 7 is now $500. You might be able to find someone for $400 if you're lucky. The 9s are asking for at least $800.

Tomcat, I live up around Harrisburg, PA, but I was traveling a lot to DC, so that’s where I played. You’re 100% right about the rates there. They are better around Harrisburg, but the best-looking providers are 7’s. This is my first SB, and she’s a solid 9 - maybe better depending on how our first date goes.

Great advice, Sweetman!  Thanks.

This is def one of the benefits of sugaring, esp if you avoid big city prices and expectations.  There are actual 9s out there who will play with you for modest $ums.  My #1 is one of those, so beautiful, and so willing to do everything and anything I want.  For a very modest 300 per visit.  I'll be seeing her again this afternoon and even though we've been at it for over 1 1/2 years, I am always thrilled to see her!  Puts a spring in my step and a smile on my face.  I know how lucky I am!