Back in the bowl after a hiatus.  

No less than 20 POTs in messages (1 week).  Conversion to M&G is 0.0.  I terminated a few.  

This is DC, and it is definitely not the same.  Not sure I am doing anything different.

When it rains it pours (and I thought it was about to pour).  When it doesn’t It really doesn’t.  Same as a single guy In vanilla world.

Ugh.

I agree man, place really sucks now compared to a few years ago.  Even 3 years ago was so much better

Some places are better than others, here in Boston it sucks!

First time I was on 6-7 years ago was great, now really is awful to be honest.
The types of girls that were on before are pretty much gone now.

Replaced by platonic only, picture sellers, I know my worth girls, etc

The month end rent due phenomenon is for real as Herb or someone else said here. Love for you vets to chime in but these SA POTs seem to fit into 3 categories so far just going by the 15-20 active txts chats I have carried.  I am in NYC so new supply comes on all the time but my msg inbounds seem to be ramping up as we get near month end.  The groups seem to be: 1) pros; 2) mercenary SB's who're old hands at this; 3) civilians with regular jobs who're new or aren't regulars but are on and off the platform for some extra rent or shopping $.

First group is an automatic pass for me. No need to be on SA for the pros. Second group is where I have gotten the majority of my inbounds. A few hours of txt over 2-3 days, show pics to each other to confirm neither of us are catfishing, and its M&G w/ almost certain BCD hinted. I am most intrigued by the last group and not surprisingly its taken the most time investment (over 2 weeks) on my part of txts to get two to agree to a M&G. I have the POTs set up for M&G in the last group and both have this weird tension of .... hey I think we're really connecting here tho we know why we are here on SA but I am "shy" bringing up $ explicitly before meeting. Well, wish me luck next week!

Atleast in SoCal - total flood of new POTs … Pots eager to meet etc — it’s like being a kid in candy store. I definitely saw an uptick beginning this week. Who knows if may change again ,  but right I have way more than my budget / time away from family allows so I have been canceling some m&g and not responding back anymore on text.  

At one point my sideline burner app page had 22 text convos open lol - now it’s down to six , of which two I have already confirmed arrangements with and four I am just keeping warm as backups in case

It's easy to focus on the negative.  As generally successful guys we have all trained to be hyper-aware of issues and challenges that must be overcome to achieve success.  It's why we have a career which enabled us to spend our discretionary funds on sugaring.  Every time we get a result, we critically review it to see how it could be optimized and then make changes where we can to improve future results.  

 
As a predictable outcome, we tend to ignore or downplay the wins - they just become expected.  

 
But if we take some time periodically to review all of our past performances and results, we may get a wider understanding of critical issues both positive and negative.  So yes, reflect on what did not work. Learn to see the red flags sooner, learn how to turn yellow flags green, learn how to prioritize time for opportunities with a higher chance of success.  But it's also important to learn from your wins.  Why did this work, what were the signs that ended up as green flags, how can I find more of these in the future?  

 

I challenge you to spend time off-site on a regular basis to reflect on all your contacts, re-read profiles, review your message strings. And then apply that analysis when you go back online and start qualifying prospects. In other words, find the Glen Garry leads and ABC (Always Be Closing)!

 
Yes, it's cyclic. Yes, the demographic and psychographic aspects change over time. But there will always be women on the site who will be DTF for the right arrangement.  If you think you shouldn't have to work that hard, go back to the General Discussion board, filter for BBBJ and amazing tits and hire your preferred pro. No judgement here.  But the next time you see a large drop of your jizz running down some 21 year-old spinners' chin while she looks at you and gleefully swallows the rest for a measly 3-4 benjies, you will know that it's all worth it.

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

You have precisely captured what is real these days.
Some of us who are the 'old hands' are probably living in the past.
I am a firm believer of the 'ebb and flow' of sugaring, but honestly, it does seem rather bleak these days.
Fortunately, I seem to be one of those rare guys who met someone and fell in love with her.
Just thinking out loud, maybe someone will find a way to replace SA, screen the girls better, and come up with the solution.
If not...I suppose the only optimistic hope I could offer is that it's truly a game of numbers...somewhere there has to be the diamond in the rough.

An option to finesse the money issue.  Mention that the housing market is absolutely crazy and you are curious what she pays in rent/mortgage.   If she engages, let her know that you can cover a portion of  her monthly outlay.  

I just began DMing a new little cutie who, after 3 brief messages to me consisting of 16 words total, she asked me for grocery money.  Sorry babe, it doesn't work that way!  So yeah, the skewed unrealistic expectations are prevalent.  But the gems are still out there too! Hope you find your way to them!

Yea that's been my experience this week too. But the economics are still much better than the pure pro's. Good to keep a backup or two around for the slow weeks

Random shit happens - couple who ignored me like 3 weeks ago suddenly contacted again and apologized for ignoring you never know how circumstances change esp for some of these younger girls .

One consistent theme coming up many of the ones who work aren’t happy w the the pay / raise situation at work and having to deal w inflation now has made them more pro active. One girl I met dropped that she is dreading having to move locally in LA for a new Job as she cannot afford the new rent but doesn’t want to buy a car for the extra distance since that’s even more expensive . Some could be made up stories but many seem reasonably genuine — It’s unfortunate but reality

Took advantage of the 20% discount and upgraded to Premium yesterday. The first thing I noticed is there aren't that many hotties like there used to be. I sent out about 15 messages and got two replies so far. Most of them haven't read my message (status = delivered, not read).

The first one is busy with her school work and won't be ready to meet for another two weeks (not sure if it's true or not but it doesn't matter).

The second one is just weird. She replied right away and asked me what my ideal arrangement is. I said let's meet for a drink and discuss this. She said she is a single mom and cannot afford to hire a nanny for 3 hours just to have a drink with me, and suggested we chat on the phone. I gave her my phone number. The Next thing I know is I was blocked with a message, "Your number is blocked on my phone so you either wasted my time or fucked me over before." She did text me and her number is not on my contact list. Plus, I don't recognize her face at all. I can swear I never met her before. I already canceled my auto-renewal so this will be a one-shot deal.

I still look and go to M&G even though my number one converted to a girlfriend basically.

Last week, a “know my worth” admittedly hot AA spinner, at the m&g, told me she wanted $1k a full date and $200k for the m&g. Luckily she told me before I gave her too much personal info (like my addresses).  So I threw her much less in gas money and left.  

Thank god for p411 then lol!

That’s $200 not $200k obviously lol

Another one replied today and asked me about PPM allowance. I thought you cannot say that on SA. I guess it's only a no-no for SD's.

I believe it's a no no for both SBs and SDs but it's enforced very rarely and very selectively.  If a SD offers ppm and if it comes to SA Admin's attention, either because their algorithm searches thru supposedly private messages or a SB reports you for it, the SD is quite likely to get kicked off the site. The opposite is not true as far as I know.  First of all, I'm happy if a SB requests ppm so I'm not gonna report her for using the term.  And Admin seems to not care much about SBs using the term.  But technically they could ban anyone from the site for offering or asking for ppm.

Most seem to be aware enough to take convo offline when it gets to that point

One college age pot  sb that reached out back to my initial  message , casually dropped her numbers xxx for dinner and xxx for if we proceed further in the third sentence right after !  

such commercial approach turned me off and I deflected her away politely

Note — She didn’t use the letters “ppm “ anywhere or anything that could be interpreted as $ , USD , or any currency related measure. Since her profile is still up and she has continued messaging me after , I am guessing she has found the right way to say it or SA doesn’t care when it comes to sbs mentioning ppm like verbiage

I think she either got banned or deactivated her account. Her message disappeared from my inbox. I did write down her cell phone number before her message disappeared. She wanted 100 in advance so I quickly passed. There are just too many scammers on SA these days.

Im banned for life on SA for discusiing ppm

Perseverance.   Now backed up.  Two meets setup next week.  All is good again, if not catfished, or stood up.

You mean, that email address is banned for life

Whatever identity they can associate.  Payment method would be one association.  IP address another.  Etc.

1 follow thru; not great looking, but amazing service.  1 cancel.  2 upcoming.  Lots with crazy asks.  1 old atf back in the fold.

Probably cycle through a few times, and back to hobby.  Not worth it really, particularly with hotels.

Definitely not renewing SA.