So SB that I have seen 3 or 4 times. Flaked on me  a few times and she came on strong about a new years eve fuckathon. She pretty much fd up the night. Stayed for 1,5 hours. Not the night. She was all about I will make it up to you tomorrow. OK.

Crickets then she messages 2 days later that she has a present for me.  She wanted to come over, have me pay her again and we would share her party supplies which she wanted me to pay for. GTFU!  

So her sorry was that she found stuff I didnt really want and could get on my own but then I get to see her drama filled ass again. LOL. And split it with her.

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..."Familiarity breeds contempt" seems to apply to the sugar bowl, as it does in many other aspects of life.  
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I'm about to dump my #1 in my rotation because she's been abusing my generosity just too many times. I've gone to a monthly with her that was supposed to be inclusive of all agreed sugar, unless I decided to do more.  (I can already see GaGa warming up his "SMH" face on this LOL.) But she's been hitting me up for unplanned and non-essential asks with increasing frequency. The last 2 were killers for me, especially the last one. First she asked me to buy her an annual Disney Pass (abt $400) so she could go there with her sister and niece (who already had passes) on Dec 27. I reluctantly got it for her... then she found out the day they planned to go was blocked by Disney for that type of pass.  She idly mused about how much she could get by selling the pass (and not giving me back the money!). Arrggg...  
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This week she asked me for two tickets to an NBA game - again for her and her sister. I got them, transferred them to her and wished her a good time believing I'd get a double dose of my sugar this weekend.  Well she went to the game and had a great time... But she posted a vid on her IG of her walking into the venue holding - wait for it - NOT her sisters hand, but a guys hand. Now we have both expressly agreed NOT to be exclusive - mainly because I'm not signing up to fully support all her $$$ needs. But that doesn't mean I agree to spend MY money on HER Tinder dates! WTF? Yes, yes, yes.. I generally subscribe to the idea that if I give her cash she can (and will) spend it any way she wants to. But this stinks of deceit. And unnecessary deceit at that.  
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Note: I have never asked her to increase the number/length of BCD's or other value add activities (like cleaning my house and doing my laundry. Something we discussed when she recently lost her job. But she found new part time work quickly.), as we never actually renegotiated the original agreement. Definitely my bad for letting the "little extras" mount up for far too long without forcing a renegotiation.  
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But still, add the increasing asks for additional sugar without increasing BCD or other "value added" time plus the lying/mis-spending of my cash and it's time to stir the rotation and fill the now empty slot.  
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By Felecia!  
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I will miss the excellent NQNS BBBJ's though...

Talked to and messaged a Pot SB for over 4 weeks.  21 yo college student...allegedly.  On the meet day, she texts at the precise meeting time stating that she would be 2 hours late, would like me to wait as "hopefully that's not too long a time".  Lame story about how "she was just able to get to her phone".  I tell her absolutely not waiting 2 hours, and that I have plans later in the day.  She apologizes profusely.

Next day, I have appointment with my clothier.  So I allow her to reschedule at an adjacent bar.  Sure enough, she texts "I will be 30 minutes late."  I text her back that doesn't work for me, needs to respect my time, good luck, but I'm out.  She responds with I should have seen her text earlier so that I could have adjusted my schedule.  

That's why I always schedule meets on my time and at a place convenient for me.

I was thinking to myself "sister my ass" lol

 
I have only a few rules that I set for myself and the SB's that I see. One that tops the list is that I am NOT going to be "that guy" the pathetic old man who gives her money so she can treat her "real" BF.  

 
Years ago I had a friend of mine who had a hooker Sugar Baby that he used to rave about, he would go on and on about what "chemistry" they had. One weekend he told me how she had to cancel on him to go visit her sick mother out of state and how he gave her a couple of grand (and got no sugar that weekend) to go see her and how much he really liked this girl. Well you guessed it. As I said the SB was also a hooker and she worked for a friend of mine who told me she had given her the weekend off so she take her "Real BF" on a weekend trip to the beach. I resolved at that moment to never be "That guy" and no, I never had the heart to tell my buddy. He was too happy in his state of denial for me to be the one to ruin his fantasy.  

 
And when you say "I am ABOUT to dump" she we assume that you are at least going to get another one of those world class BJ's before kicking her to the curb? lol

Must be a real SD! Lol

I had a pot SB agree to meet me last Sunday at Noon. I texted her before I left (about a 40 minute drive). No response. At 2:00 she texted to say she had overslept, could we still meet, apologizing profusely. I didn’t respond. At 4:00 she texted that she was almost ready, if I still wanted to meet. I texted back no way. She then suggested we meet Tuesday at Noon. I said that I would give her one more chance. She picked both days and times. Tuesday morning I texted her to see if we were still on. No response. The next day she texted apologizing saying that she has trouble getting up early and that she preferred meeting late afternoon or evening. I texted her back no thanks.

So they can always scam me for a few bucks ... once.  You also have to remember that some people are passive about breaking up ... they'll do stuff to annoy you so YOU break up with them.  You see this in marriages a lot, especially with women, they start getting disagreeable hoping you will leave them.  

I'm stupid! LOL  
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The "talk" will commence once she's dropped the hand towel used to wipe excess "splash jizz" from her chin, her nose, her forehead, her hair, her ear... well you get the idea.  
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I will offer her an alternative option: Go back to BCD-only P4P twice a month. I'll low ball the rate though... my guess is she will refuse for now. But when the next rent payment is due I may get a call.

If I had a buck for every time I heard the "overslept" excuse, I'd have another SB in my rotation!  
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Worst time this happened to me was when I still lived in the Bay area of California. I had meet a POT SB that lived about 45 minutes north of me. We had a great dinner and a steamy make out session in my car before I dropped her off at her low-rent apartment with roomies and went home.  Before I left I proposed a BCD weekend in Napa (maybe a 90 minute drive from her place) as our next meet. She agreed. We texted over the next few days, agreed on sugar and BCD likes and dislikes and I reserved a nice hotel room for the following weekend. (Note: a CHEAP room in central Napa runs about $275.) I showed up at her location at 8:00 am Saturday as agreed. Text - no response. Call - straight to vmail. Wash, rinse, repeat for 45 minutes while my blood is starting to boil... Finally left and went home. Too late to cancel the room without paying 1st night, so I was out of pocket $350 for the room, plus a tank of gas plus I was generally pissed.
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Two days later she texts me. She'd been there all the time, asleep, phone battery dead, no alarm clock, blah, blah, blah. "How can I make it up to you?"...  I told her she can't. Then I told her that the $500 sugar envelope I had for her was going to another SB who would be licking my balls that night and begging for more.  (This was before I adopted a "never burn bridges" approach to SB's.)  
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Skip forward 3 months and she texts me: "Can we meet? I really miss you!" I replied: "What is my first name?"  Twenty minutes later she took a guess - a wrong guess.  I told her to try again when she remembers. Radio silence ever since. She's still on the site... makes me laugh.

Herbtcat..that just happened to me 3wks ago..get this, she expected me to get her a 12'inch i-pad pro so she could doodle on it. Of course, it had to be the one with a full gig of storage..for a Christmas present. Mind you she WAS my #1 SB. But, to spent 1699.00 w/out any BCD or any extra bit of her time .well, that pushed my "self entitled cunt button" hell herbtcat you're long suffering with her. I'd 86 the bitch like she could transmit an std with her breath. So long story short, mine got the ejection button..and that's just from asking that!

If you play with the very young (18-19 teens and 20-22 near-teens), you can't be surprised when the act like teens. You might want to check their IDs to see if they are legal.

Also, compared to the non-SB women I know in this age range, the SBs are even flaky by the standards of their age peers. You don't find too many computer science or economics majors doing well at good schools among SBs in that age range, but you do find the chronically disorganized, stoners, and those who believe that their youth and willingness to let older men penetrate them merits infinite indulgence.  

 I have met some older ones (e.g., 25-40, who are very level-headed ones with careers and good education who sugar because of financial problems, usually relating to a divorce.

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and several of them have been quite serious about their studies.  

 
I still prefer 25-30, just because they have more life experience and even at 58 I can usually pass as an actual BF of a 30 year old, but that façade doesn't fly with a teen ager, but that doesn't mean the 18-21 year old don't have something to offer as well.

There are plenty of unreliable and flaky women among the 25+ SBs, And there are some great teen SBs who are fun in bed and in public (although we have to make them my daughter in public, which rules out most PDAs) and totally reliable.  

However, you are much more likely to run into the unreliable and flaky ones among the 18-23 set than among the older ones. The adult-like 18-23 year old ones aren't unicorns, but they are a minority. And of course, if you really like the young, fresh bodies, you might want to put up with a certain among of unreliability for access their under-panties goodies.

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I do have a guy that makes my suits and jackets.  Not a high roller or "real" SD, but like to look nice.  Thanks to you guys, I'm paying 350-400 per meet in DC/Northern VA for some really nice SB's.  

I always tell them I’ll leave the minute I feel taken advantage of. I also tell them they are free to see other guys, but not on my dime and that they have to be honest about it. With three sugar babies I’ve gotten serious with, this hasn’t been much of an issue. One had legitimately hit some hard times and I’ve had to help her quite a bit, but she’s so far been worth every penny. When the asks are big, I’ve also paid for them directly so that she still feels she has to work hard, and if she wants to hang with broke assed guys, it’ll be with her own money and not mine.  So far, it seems to be working. I see enough of her to know I’m not being taken advantage of, at least not yet.  

It’s inevitable they’re going to ask for more as time goes on, though. With this current fave, I’m her best friend and the only one she talks to all day long, so it’s only natural she’s going to come to me first with problems. All we can do is damage control. Think of ways solve problems without losing the relationship if we want it or blowing our budgets.  My hopes are that when we start to get bored of each other, she quickly finds another daddy or boyfriend and I don’t have to leave her in any kind of bad situation. This way, at least things can end positively and we can continue with occasional BCDs as long as she keeps her figure.  

That’s what’s happened with the first two I got serious with. One went back to being a full blown pro and I can still get premium service from her anytime as a pro. The other resents no longer being my fav but still needs my dick when current BFs just don’t cut it.  

Every time I’ve spotted my favs any kind of money, they’ve actually been great about making up for it. I see it as a cost of being in the game, like a bad toftt with a pro. As long as it’s only a few hundred dollars and not too frequent, I’m willing to let it slide in order to keep the relationship non transactional and real.  These young girls are much less likely to mess with you if they’re legitimately in love with you.

If a girl is gonna be flaky she won't even be on time for a coffee date, and I'll move on.  But pretty much all of my young SBs are very respectful of being on time. Either they show up exactly as planned or are careful to text me and let me know they might be 15mins late. No big deal.  All of them are goal oriented, or serious students, or have some other career pursuits.  Maybe I'm just lucky or maybe I really know how to pick them.  Bu I haven't been stood up or asked for extra sugar in a very long time.  As for extras, the less they ask the more generous I feel and I do show my appreciation with extras from time to time.