I've posted earlier that I don't seek threesomes on SA, but I've had a half-dozen or so that fell into my lap with one common denominator -- the girl I was meeting got nervous at the last minute and asked if she could bring a friend. It never failed to end up with all of us in bed, until now.

The primary chick is a 19yo petite Asian 6-7 on looks. She's smart (an accounting student) and very well spoken and seems to come from solid middle-class stock in the DC 'burbs. Her profile and our chats indicate she has legitimate interest in "mentoring" and getting "wisdom" from a SD. She asks great questions.

We chatted more than usual for more days than usual. I made it clear that our first meet would be dinner and private time at my hotel. She agreed.

The morning of the meet (at a nice steakhouse that piqued her enthusiasm) I get a message saying she didn't want to drive on potentially icy roads (there had been a small amount of bad weather). I wasn't in the mood to beg her or spring for $50 Uber each way. So I just acted like I assumed she was canceling. Then, 30 minutes before our (now canceled) reservation, she texts to say she's on her way on the Metro with her 19yo bff and she sends a pic when I ask for it. She's a solid 7. I immediately ask if her bff is down for private time with us afterward but she doesn't respond to that. I remake the reservation, clean up, and get to the restaurant 5 min late, but still 15 min before her.  

So I'm thinking if past patterns hold true, I'm going to end up fucking both of these sweet little 19yos tonight.  

They seem wowed by the ambiance and the great treatment from the waiter, who knows me and doesn't even check their IDs. We all have one cocktail and a great meal and they are obviously putting their best foot forward for me (although dressed a bit informally). We're having fun and the bff even talks wistfully about going to Florida and taking off her top so her "tits can get some sun."

They make noises like they need to get back home so I tell them I have a bottle for us back at my room. They demur. I say they should at least come see the view (which is outstanding) and it's only a five minute walk. They're down for that.

I walked with my arms around both of them to my fancy downtown hotel. Once they're in the room they didn't take their coats off but still seemed warm to me and they did "enjoy the view." They wouldn't stay for a drink or anything else. I walked them out, arms around them. I put my hand in the back pocket of bff's pants because her coat was short and open, and my arm around Primary Chick and her long coat. After a while, bff gently removed my hand from her pocket. This was my only signal of disapproval, besides the major fact that they didn't stay and get naked for me.

That was three days ago. Primary chick has been very friendly with texts and seems eager to meet again. But I didn't get either her or the threesome on the first date.

So what do you think? Did the odds just catch up with me? Something about the situation I might have misread? Maybe my expectations are too high? Did I come on too strong this time? Flaky 19yos?

Still, I'm not disappointed. I had a great dinner with two truly enjoyable girls and the table is set to bed one of them if not both. Plus I was able to see a backup SB that night (although not my first choice) so all was not lost.

-- Modified on 12/19/2020 8:30:13 PM

Because even with your context, it's hard to know what primary's rationale was for brining her BFF.  

 
Still, I doubt the BFF will be back to see you, either with her, or separately. If these girls were comfortable with double teaming a guy you would be telling a different story.  And it seems that your primary is still one the fence whether she wants to embrace her inner whore as well. But since she's still texting you after the date, she may make the decision soon now that she's seen you are not a douchey, asshole, misogynistic, axe-murdering jerk. Yay!  

 
Frankly, every time I've been asked for a BFF to come along, it turned out differently. One time a 19 year old Latina brought, without asking, her 18 year old cousin to a M&G at a Starbucks. The said they stepped out of a wedding and had to get back in 30 minutes.  I was cool and both were hot, but the cousin was not into me or sugar, and the POT ultimately turned out to be just trying multiple times to get advance cash and, I assume, would never go BCD.   Another time, I was asked if a friend can ride along when I pick her up.  She was vague about who the friend was, or even if it was a guy or a girl. I passed and I'm pretty sure that's why I still have 2 kidneys today. Finally, I was dating a newbie porn star for a while. She turned out to be BSC, but before I dumped her (long story, diff post) she offered to bring one or more of her porn star friends along for fun ("I can bring my girls along if you want, Daddy...."). Never happened. And about 3 months later I found out from another porn star I was seeing that the first PS had pissed off virtually every co-star, director, agent and "model house" Mom in the Valley in less than 4 moths. She was literally run out of town and became a pariah in the industry.  But the sex! The sex was unforgettably awesome (like you'd expect with any BSC SB)!  Oh well...  

 
So on balance, I'd say you did ok. No three-way, but a pleasant date with 2 hot Asians, and a follow up BCD expected with your primary assuming you play it cool and nice. Plus - you still have all your kidneys!  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Now that the BFF has met you and, from the sound of it, seems not impressed, I think you have an additional obstacle to overcome.

 
If that girl really was her true BFF then part of the reason she was there was to give her stamp of approval. If I were in your shoes, I would be as subtly as possible trying to find out if the BFF either:

 
1) Gave you the BFF stamp of approval  
2) How important to your primary that BFF stamp of approval really is

 
If you got the stamp of approval that’s good news for your relationship with the SB candidate. If not, knowing the answer to #2 becomes important before you spend any further money or time on the primary.

 
Still, that’s just my opinion. You should do whatever seems most fun and/or rewarding to you.

Primary's rationale for bringing BFF started out as, she needed her to drive on what might have been icy roads (the roads turned out clear). But they took the Metro, which Primary could have done on her own.

Also, Primary delayed the start of our date by about two hours (she communicated), which was probably to accommodate  BFF's schedule, in retrospect.

I tend to agree with you. I think Primary will see me BCD soon, and who knows if BFF will present herself again?

I bet you're exactly right. BFF was there to give a Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval, or not.  She didn't care for my hand on her ass, so maybe she'll withhold that approval. Still, I have good text from Primary Chick.

I think I'll just keep playing it like a regular SB date and pay no mind to BFF unless she comes up again. Although it would be good to have them both, so I'll be open to that. In any case, Primary has only one more chance to prove herself to me.

Timing is everything... or at least I've been saying that it is for years and years...  

 
I had a M&G last week with a 23-year old blond spinner looking for a new Daddy. She's the "free spirit" type and says she  doesn't like to be tied down to one place for too long and claims she's travelled to several countries.  We had a Car-M&G since everything, even many Starbucks are closed in LA county as we are seeing record high COVID numbers.  She is upbeat, cute and says all her friends know she plays in the sugar bowl - no secrets hidden from them! We clicked well and agreed to set up a date at my home after Xmas; no BCD yet as she wants to build more trust and rapport with me. Ok, as long as she understands allowance will start only with BCD times. Agreed!  

 
Two days later, the day she's leaving for a holiday trip with the family and I check in by text to wish her bon voyage. She says, thanks, etc., etc... I figure I'm good to go with her after Xmas and turn to focus on scheduling my 1st BCD with a 24 year old Latina I met the same week.  

 
Later that afternoon, the free-spirit asks if her bestie can join us for dinner at my home for our 1st date after Xmas... Of course, I immediately think of James Garner's post (i.e.: Rockfordfile) about threesomes! I play it cool and ask some q's: how do you know her, what are the expectations, etc. She answers my q's and sends me pics of her bestie and both of them together.  

 
So I agree and the date is set for next Tuesday. My expectations: I expect we will have a nice dinner, with carefully paired wines from my personal cellar. I expect they will enjoy the company. I expect they will enjoy the quality wines I select, especially the 2nd and 3rd bottles.  But it's my hopes that are most interesting: I hope they get happy and drunk. I hope they find me to be a nice, rich Daddy who really appreciates both of these beautiful and impressive women. I HOPE I GET A THREESOME!  

 
But I don't expect it - yet.  

 
I'll make a report and update the group...  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Sounds like you're on the right track, Cat. It was her idea. You're not acting overly eager. You're setting the right environment, including making them happy with wine.  

Looking forward to that report.

I haven't done whites since the seventies, I really don't care much for weed, of course many of my SB's do, but WINE??? Yes, I can't imagine like in the sugar bowl without it. lol

" . . . and I'm pretty sure that's why I still have 2 kidneys today."

LMFAO!
It's funny because it's true.

Is the BFF also Asian just like the Primary?

Also, which flavor* of Asian; Chinese, Filipinas, Guamanian, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Malaysian, Okinawan, Taiwanese, Thai, etc.?

 

(*That's the way we used to say it when I was stationed in Hawaii.)

No, BFF is Caucasian. Only Primary is Asian, the "flavor" being Chinese, I think.

I don't care for alcohol very much, but if a SB expresses interest in sharing some wine I'm happy to provide.  That is I used to until I had a bad experience.  I was dating this gorgeous, almost voluptuous blonde free spirit hippie girl.  She loved wine, said it put her in the mood. So I always showed up with a chilled bottle and it became our regular ritual.  Uncork, pour and imbibe for while before the fun began.  In actuality I would have a glass and she drank the rest of the bottle.  It was fun and she seemed quite able to out drink me, never became sloppy or slurred that I could notice.  One night after a typical session she rolled her car on the drive home, totaled it, hurt her arm, and got a DWI in the process. I felt terrible, although she swore it was not my fault.  A few months later she broke things off with me and made a commitment to sobriety that has turned out well.  We had a coffee date recently, our first contact in nearly 2 years, and she kindly told me I was always there for her, never judgemental, and she never blamed her problems on me.  Still, I feel like in some way I enabled her drinking and I could have done more to help her see it for the problem it was. Since that experience alcohol has not been any part of my sugar dating.

I've lived with the alcoholic SB in the past - and I mean "LIVED" as in she moved in with me!  Not recommended.  

 
But some SB's feel they need to loosen up - perhaps to crush some inner "hoe" guilt - to really enjoy a SD Date.  I drink, primarily wine (I have a 380+ bottle collection) and single-malt (45+ bottles here) but I like a vodka martini before my $60 rib eye and a glass of port with my soufflé at Morton's as much as the next guy. However, I'm  30 years past drinking to get drunk, and I (almost) never drink alone. It doesn't hurt that I can take down a bottle and a half of a good Cabernet without showing signs of inebriation. But that quantity is never the goal. It's just that I know and consistently respect my limits, especially when I need to be sure Little Herb can shine later on in the night.  

 
So yes, I will offer these ladies wine, and will keep it coming if asked. But I'm going to send her and her friend an Uber to get to and back from my place.  I'll invest the $65-ish bucks to ensure they stay safe.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat