This question requires knowing your home situation. Do you need to keep your sugaring a secret from people at home? If not, then inviting SBs to your place is a good option. There are risks, and many here don't wan ta SB who turns out to be BSC to know where they live. But home is a really nice option if it works for you.
Most here use hotels/motels. You simply have to figure the cost into your entertainment budget and see if it works for you. There are caveats here as well, such as not leaving her in the room when it's your name on the booking! One buddy of mine used to bring his dates to a local hot tub spa place. My own preference seems to be unique, so far as I know. I have a nice RV. I drive it to a convenient spot, such as a big parking lot at a shopping mall where it attracts no attention, and my SB meets me there. She hops in and we have our own heated/air conditioned, fully equipped,comfortable love nest to party in! The girls really seem to like it, and I've entertained dozens and dozens of SBs in the RV in the past few years. Fuel and maintenance costs for the RV, plus amortization of the purchase price might make this just as expensive as hotels, but I don't like hotels and I do like the RV. It feels much more discreet to me. As far as frequency goes, I always tell my new SBs I'd like to see them every other week. they often say yes, but rarely follow through. They are busy young women with school, work, family and other obligations, so sometimes it turns out only once ever 3 or 4 weeks. And tbh, every one I've dated has had other SDs they are dating so I'm just one in their rotation same as they are just one in mine. If I have 5 or 6 I can usually manage to visit them all at least once each month.Have you pondered this question? You found a perfect SB that's freaking awesome. Much easier on the wallet, of course. Why still go pro?
Since my last SB ended in Feb, I have been using pro then COVID hits and I took a break. I went back to SA a month ago and got into 2 arrangements. Both are 10s in my eyes (beauty eye of the beholder), super loving, sweet, and plays the perfect girlfriend role wherever we go in public. In the bedroom both made sure I'm satisfied. All the acronyms I want and pops I want. Both are ok with bbfs too. Like many of you, all dates are multi-hrs 3-4hrs dinner dates etc. Each time the allowance is 3OO.
For the same amount I would use to see a pro for one dinner date, I can rotate my SB's to keep it fresh and fun for me and see them each once a week.
So I have been seeing pros less and less since I started in the SB world. Now I almost never see Pros anymore since my SB's keeps me more than satisfied with me having to shell out less. What about you guys?
Funny you posted this...
SBs are nice and they can be fun to flirt and pursue. However, it's time-consuming and you never really know what you're going to get. I had one SB who was a great f_ck but then she became attached and dramatic. I grow tired and bored of the back and forth conversation and the unrealistic, fairy tale-expectation of the SBs.
The company is nice and spending a little time chatting and getting to know someone can be at times a nice break too. However, this hasn't proven to always be the case and some SBs don't seem to be interested in conversation. I met an Asian SB just last week who I had high hopes for and she had a damn fine pussy, but her personality was like nails on a blackboard, talked non-stop and she was basically a pro, I shelled out too much money (for me) and she just wanted to f_ck me, get her money and she was in and out in an hour.
Pros are a little more expensive on average, (but not always). I know the game having played it for 25 years. I know what I'm going to get and have a shortlist of local and national women I know and like. Yes, it might be slightly more money, but if I just need to get off, it's worth it. I know what I'm willing to pay and what I'll get for it, (some providers are priced way too high, IMO).
I know the UTR pros of SA in my area too. They basically just adjust their prices to accommodate extra time spent with whoever. I've even chatted up a few of them but just haven't pulled the trigger. They're typically a little older but I don't care about that.
So, why go pro? It's really as simple as my mood, timing and the amount effort I want to invest.
True, I can see the time commitment is definitely more. Takes longer to "court" a SB and finally get it to the stage of the bcd part. I'm not sure what pros you are seeing that are doing 300 for 3-4hrs dinner dates though...I wish I can find them too and I might be seeing pros more LOL...
But, yea, if you just want a banging time without the courting hassle then pro is less headache for sure.
I guess I'm a bit lucky in the SB area since I haven't had a SB that was unrealistic on their expectations.
It's pretty much the same question, most of us just like fucking several different women. I usually keep 4-5 SB's in my rotation yet I always make at least some time to see a few hookers too. I am just a pig, what can I say? oink oink. lol
I do see a lot less hookers than I once did, but of course "What I once did" was probably a different hooker every single day at one point. lol
That said, you are preaching to the choir here, but to answer your actual question of "Why still go pro?" I do it because I like it, You might as well ask why do I still go to restaurants when I can simply throw a steak on the grill for a quarter of the price of going out? I like fucking hookers, I have ever since I fucked my first hooker some 46 years ago right up til the last time I fucked a hooker the day before yesterday.
Let me ask you a question, don't you sometimes get tired of fucking the same two girls over and over again? Even when my rotation gets up to around six different SB's I still get tired of fucking the same girls and I need to add new ones to replace the old ones that I have grown tired of.
I can definitely relate haha. I do see pros still, but definitely A LOT less now compared to me pre-SB days. But, yes, I too like some variety but surprisingly I've been satisfied with my SB for the time being. I do once a while see a touring pro in my area (or when I'm traveling) that I just can't pass up since that particular pro is my type, super hot (in my eyes).
I guess for me it's more of the "long term part". For SB, at least mine right now, I can have an extended 24hr dates with her for 600 and I am equality as satisfied when I go with a pro for this type of dates. The pros just charge way too much sometimes...2000 to 6000 for 24hrs dates. That's just crazy.
I have very little budget for this activity. I have SB's who want to keep seeing me. And yet I keep scanning the SB sites looking for new flavors. 
Can I be nosy and ask what your budget is?
Once a month. Twice a month on occasion.
Can I be nosy and ask what your budget is?
When I started dating SBs about 6 years ago I quit dating pro escorts and have stayed with the SBs 100% since then. I''m happy to know the pros are still there and wish them well. I dated pros for 12 years before switching to SBs, and I loved the experiences I had with them. But I've switched to sugar dating exclusively for two primary reasons.
First of all I simply enjoy it more. I love the young naive college girls who are rarely jaded. OK sometimes they are delusional, but when I find one who is down to earth and appreciative of a few $ to make ends meet, I just love it so much.
Secondly, there's been a total collapse of the formerly vibrant escort scene in my area. There just aren't any worthy pros here any more. We used to have a lively independent local board, local branches of out of state agencies, an active regional board here on SA, lots of attention from touring ladies from nationally known agencies, plus many fine local providers. After some heavy handed LE activity and sensationalized prosecutions as well as damage from evil trolls, the scene here collapsed and has never recovered. So the resourceful hobbyist (that's me!) has only two options. Fly to a city where the scene is alive every time I want to get laid, or find an alternative.
Interestingly, the sugar dating alternative, besides being something I enjoy even more than dating pros, has been ignored by local LE as far as I know. Last year one of our local TV stations did a piece about the sugar scene at our state university and gave it basicallty a favorable spin! The girls interviewed were clear about never having to do anything they didn't choose freely to do. The reporter even interviewed a prosecuter at the state attorney general's office who concluded that sugar dating did not meet the standards for prostitution.
I agree with the sentiment that variety is the spice of life! It certainly spices up my life! But I find I have plenty of variety in the sugar bowl. When my active rotation is up to 6 or more, there's lots of built in variety. And the rotation is never stable. There are always one or two dropping out and one or two new ones being interviewed for the position. So the variety I crave seems to be inherent in the process of building/maintaining a rotation.
Then there's the money. I spend waaaaay less per hour of entertainment dating SBs than I did dating escorts. Plus, since the last time I was dating pros actively, the prices have escalated. I used to date pros for $300/hr regularly with an occasional $400. Now when I look on TER the providers all seem to want $500, $600 or more.
I think the only real drawback to sugar dating is the lack of any meaningful vetting process. The system of reviews and White List here on SA confers a huge mutual degree of safety to the process of dating for $. It doesn't exist in the sugar bowl. So being extra careful, performing your own due diligence, etc. is very important. But I'm ok with that, and I can't imagine going back to dating pros any time soon.
So true. The pro prices are going crazy. Now so much is doing 500 and even 800/hr. I'm like wtf? But they remain active, so people are still seeing them. Then a lot of these high pricing pros refuse to have reviews. So even shadier.
Definitely SB for me, at least in my area, is a lot more economical. I just can't find a pro that would do a 3-4hr dinner date for anything close to 300. I give my sb 600 for overnights, which usually is about 24hrs together. There is no way I can get a pro to do that for only 600.
I went on a 3 day trip to Disneyland with my sb, banged our brains out each night, and gave her 700. Her allowance plus airfare and AriBnB, I spent about 2500. I don't know a pro out there that does a 3 day trip for 2500.
As I am new to SB world I do like the less expensive side to it. However I was lucky with one of my first SB who was totally down from the first date. I am completely sure I over priced her from day one (300). Although totally submissive and will do anything I want; I get the "pro" feeling as after one hour she is telling me she has to P/U her son or a house to clean. Something I plan to address in the near future.
I keep seeing pros because there is always someone out there that i MUST see as she is so beautiful. And yes usually at the new inflated price of 500-600 but so far have not been disappointed. I do make sure she is well reviewed and will do the things that float my boat.
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Lol I so much the same. There are times a traveling pro that is coming to my city that's just so hot, I had to see her.
Since going SB, I have not entertained the thought of a pro. The ROI from SB's has been phenomenal. I try and keep a rotation of about 3 to 4. Laying on a couch now in a hotel suite waiting on my college SB to drive up and rock my world this weekend. I'm half way through an '09 cab, listening to music and searching for the next SB to join my roster. However, to each his own. Whatever makes you happy is the right answer.
I’ve been thinking about going the Sugar Baby route for a long time. I’m in the South Bay. The easiest place to hook up with a SB used to be Grand Central hot tubs. I did have a 19 year old UTR provider who essentially went exclusive SB with me for a while because she just didn’t like being a pro. That was simply fantastic until she started having issues managing expectations. But that kind of growing pain is to be expected with a 19 year old, I think.
I’ve been thinking of figuring out hotel/motel short stays. Is this what everyone else does? If so, any tips on making it work well (as in discreet) without being too expensive?
Also, it looks like many of you see a particular SB once a month. Or is it common to meet more frequently?
I currently have two in rotation. Not sure how people got to 5 or 6 lol. But more power to them. I see an SB once a week. I usually just meet at my own place. Only when we traveled we are at hotels.
If I only had two in my rotation that would mean I'd be fucking each one of them three times a week, which would get really boring really quick. I will occasionally fuck the same girl three times in a week, but I try not to make a habit out of it. For me the perfect mix is to see two different girls twice a week and to see another couple of girls once a week, and to take a day off one or two days a week.
BTW, a lot of these dates are NOT multi hour dates, I like to have a couple of girls who simply come over, fuck, and then leave, much like a hooker. Sometimes all I really want to do is to get my rocks off, other times of course I enjoy having the company of a PYT for all night or at least several hours, but not every day of the week, it becomes work if you do too much of it. lol
We just have a different way of going about it LOL. I see them once a week. Too busy to be seeing them 3x a week and not in the books financially for that often hahaha. I always like doing "date"-ish things besides just having sex. I find it way more satisfying and exciting for me personally. Of course everyone is different. That's just me. Often times my sb and I would have sex more than once one a date...like before and after dinner.
This question requires knowing your home situation. Do you need to keep your sugaring a secret from people at home? If not, then inviting SBs to your place is a good option. There are risks, and many here don't wan ta SB who turns out to be BSC to know where they live. But home is a really nice option if it works for you.
Most here use hotels/motels. You simply have to figure the cost into your entertainment budget and see if it works for you. There are caveats here as well, such as not leaving her in the room when it's your name on the booking! One buddy of mine used to bring his dates to a local hot tub spa place.
My own preference seems to be unique, so far as I know. I have a nice RV. I drive it to a convenient spot, such as a big parking lot at a shopping mall where it attracts no attention, and my SB meets me there. She hops in and we have our own heated/air conditioned, fully equipped,comfortable love nest to party in! The girls really seem to like it, and I've entertained dozens and dozens of SBs in the RV in the past few years. Fuel and maintenance costs for the RV, plus amortization of the purchase price might make this just as expensive as hotels, but I don't like hotels and I do like the RV. It feels much more discreet to me.
As far as frequency goes, I always tell my new SBs I'd like to see them every other week. they often say yes, but rarely follow through. They are busy young women with school, work, family and other obligations, so sometimes it turns out only once ever 3 or 4 weeks. And tbh, every one I've dated has had other SDs they are dating so I'm just one in their rotation same as they are just one in mine. If I have 5 or 6 I can usually manage to visit them all at least once each month.
I have kids and good neighbors who keep an eye on the house when I’m gone. Discretion requires me to have any other relationships be outside of my home.
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No kids, no significant others to worry about (except for my dog haha...she smells everything), and don't care about my neighbors saying anything. It's my house and I have every right to invite whoever over to my house anytime I want. It's not like they know what I do in my own house.
It's not like I'm partying it up with loud music at 2 am in the morning. As long as we don't disturb the neighborhood what can they really say? There is nothing to report either. Ok, I have pretty ladies come over to my place...nothing wrong with that.