The Erotic Highway

Plunging into the bowl
Scaramouche 204 Reviews 1644 reads
posted
1 / 28

Finally took the plunge and signed up after lurking for a few months. Too soon to know how things will turn out but the initial response seems good. Got several potential matches and now in a long conversation with one. She seemed TGTBT .. and maybe she is but she is at least a real person based on her conversation.  Offered dinner and she is interested. I imagine she'll hit me up for a big allowance or something but will follow the advice here and avoid any advances.
Also weirdly a lot of likes from women in far-flung places like Venezuela and Omsk!

bassrat51 4 Reviews 132 reads
posted
2 / 28

LOL, I think I've seen you post before about lurking.  Good luck, easy way to avoid the long range scammers is to put you profile on hide.  I like to decide whom I am going to pursue rather than weed through all the scammer crap that comes from an unhidden profile.  

I've got one right now that I swear is a pro but she also does things that make me question that.  Not that it really matters as long as I am getting what I want. lol.  I like pros too, but prefer a true SB.  Too many pros are jaded and fake, I think that is why I like the SB market.  They tend to be less jaded.

Ali2 61 reads
posted
3 / 28

I have found the following strategy to work extremely well.

First, ignore what they say about wanting a full relationship, dining, shopping, etc.   Most of them know that is BS and the ones that don't will find out soon enough that that is not how things work.  (Except when they say "not an escort." They seem to mean that, in my experience.)  

Second, send out a ton of emails, introducing yourself, love your pics, you sound smart, interesting, would love to meet you, etc.   See who responds.  (A minority will)  

Third, when they do, lay out your terms specifically and ask for their number.  Some will respond.   (A minority will) Go with them.  

This strategy will net you some good options.  It may not net you the looks-like-10's, but, as in the escort biz, never get your heart set on one particular woman, and those look like 10's are probably fake anyway.  

Using this strategy, i sent out 20 emails, all to people who fit my interests and have met with two so far and have arranged to meet with three others.   All of them are 8's or 9's on looks and the two I have met with have been 9/10 on service.  

I have found that trying to set up dinner, etc., is basically a waste of time.  They have wanted to go right to the room faster than I thought possible.  In one case, we going to go to Starbucks and talk, but she said let's just take out and go to the hotel. In the second case, she said let's skip starbucks and go right to the hotel.  

liqq63 19 Reviews 78 reads
posted
4 / 28

Those "far-flung" likes are the normal noise that you should just ignore (delete, hide), as you should any interest coming from outside your immediate area, unless you regularly travel to another location.  Good luck.

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 65 reads
posted
5 / 28

One thing I'm struggling with is the frame of mind with dealing with SB prospects.. it's not quite the same as dealing with pros, but not like real friends or dating either. I mean I treat everyone with respect but still....

girlfan1959 48 Reviews 56 reads
posted
6 / 28

In my experience, it is a broad spectrum. At one end you have pros advertising in an alternative location and perhaps looking for multi-date escort relationships. At the other end, there are those who don't seem to understand that sex will necessarily be involved even if not on a pay-per-meeting basis. Scattered about are the very young (say 18- to 22-year-olds) who don't seem to know what they want themselves and often have contradictory expectations and desires; or to put it more simply "flakes."

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 69 reads
posted
7 / 28

How often do you do a M&G and then decide you're not interested?  And how do the ladies respond?
Just wondering because there are some who seem marginally nice.. but hard to know until you're face-to-face.
Obviously you can always decline, but wondering how common this is

PolePosition 59 reads
posted
8 / 28

Couldn't think of a worse strategy. Guess I started rolling my eyes when you professed: "ignore what they say." 2nd, they are not "emails" LOL. 3rd, if you in anyway talk money SA will bounce your ass. And yeah - never offer up dinner, you definitely don't want to seen in your Honda.  LOL

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 85 reads
posted
9 / 28

I was expecting scams but this is a crazy one:

There an SA girl I connect with, and I give her my number.. but she says she wants to WhatsApp me because she's in Ghana.. but will be back in the states in a couple of weeks.
She tells me she is studying psychology at the University of Ghana (!!!!) .. and then she says "I’m looking for a man who will love me and support my life. I came across you , I hope you’re the one."
I tell her I'm not looking for a commitment and she completely changes course: "I’m not looking for something serious just to date and sexual fun." She sends a provocative (clothed) picture  and then says: "Do you like that I send you nude photos of me? You wanna see my pussy my tits. What things do you like to talk about?
Obviously not responding but debating whether to block her (if it's even a her) or just let it go....

sweetman 93 Reviews 68 reads
posted
10 / 28

It's rare, but it does happen. Just last week I had a M&G with a girl who was very interesting to talk to but zero chemistry for me. She was ready to go for it, but not me.  Very awkward.  Then she told me she was not vaxxed and that gave me a polite reason to decline.  But normally I won't do a M&G unless i find the girl's pics enticing and appealing.  And I rarely even send a DM to those without good, unblurred public pics.  I don't want to have to say, you've been fun to talk to but now that I see what you look like I'm not interested. Never want to put myself in that position.

querious 73 reads
posted
11 / 28

What's funny is that your 20 year review history would indicate that you've been around the block more than once, but jumped right into this ridiculously obvious scam that has been going on since the advent of internet dating.  And gave her/him/it your number to boot.  Let me guess...no, I don't even have to guess, I'll give you the scenario.  All you need to do each time is plug in the far off place where they are temporarily, but are returning shortly to the U.S.:  I don't have enough money to cover the airfare back home.  Can you help me with that?  Because I really want to be with you.  

liqq63 19 Reviews 62 reads
posted
12 / 28

Always a possibility that when face to face she's not what you'd expected.  Sometimes it just doesn't click.  In my experience she knows it too, so what's the big deal.  You've enjoyed meeting her, and hope she finds what she's looking for.    

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 63 reads
posted
13 / 28

Well yes.. I'm experienced in the hobby but new to sugar. And I figured it was a scam pretty quickly (who goes to Ghana to study?) I just let it play out..  
It seems like you almost have to give out numbers in SA because you're not supposed to talk about any specific arrangements like PPM. Have a couple of other prospects that don't seem so flaky

herbtcat 6 Reviews 90 reads
posted
14 / 28

I'm sure you know that any POT who is out of the US is a non-starter. I just tell them to contact me when they get to my city and that usually ends it. But when you give your number and get asked to use WhatsApp, Signal, or any app that offers additional encryption be careful. It's usually because "she" is not in the US and is going to try to hook a big whale for harvest (note: YOU are the whale).  

 
Also, you picked up on another red flag... love. This site is definitely NOT about finding your soul mate. And many of the "love-troll" farms have a standard profile and message script that they give to their operators. Since the majority of target sites are more traditional dating sites, they use a one-size-fits-some approach. So anything like "I'm looking for my true love/soul mate/partner in god/etc. is total BS. This is the play to the incels who still live with Mom and have never been able to talk to women. But since you actually know how to fuck a woman... well you get it.  

 
Tip: Be sure to look at the last login location on their profile (upper left corner). If it's not US, move on or ask.  

 
Tip: You can also get a Google Voice number and register that as your WhatsApp number. Then give out the GV number to POT's who have too many yellow or red flags IF you want to get a bit more info.  If they ask for WhatsApp, you're good to go without using your real (or burner) number and you can always block them or even get a new GV number if needed.  

 
Finally, I almost NEVER block a profile. And I almost NEVER report a profile.  Unless she's continuing to message you, or worse threatening to out you, blocking  just ensures YOU won't see "her" again. She still able to tag some one else and try her scam script again. And it may giver her a reason to (falsely) report you.  Just stop responding (or politely decline to go further) and let it go.  

 
And in general, I always suggest you never burn bridges. After all, there is .0001% chance that the perfect-10 spinner who messaged you from the UK might actually show up one day at your local airport and ask for a ride to a hotel near you.  My reason for not reporting is a bit different. I want to fly under the radar with site admin. I don't want to be the guy who shows up on some persons desk for review.  Nor do I want my profile showing up on some internal site report of "adverse" actions - especially more than once. I don't want my profile flagged as trouble maker or trouble attractor.  

 
And really, blocking and/or reporting does essentially nothing for you. I reported a scammer who took me for $700 back in 2014. I provided screen shots of text  messages, photos of her at my place, etc. There were no consequences - she was not banned - I did not get my money back. But I did learn a valuable (that is a $700) lesson on why you never pay in advance. I mean even 10 minutes in advance, as she strolled out with my cash AS I was dropping my pants. LOL.  

 
You are off to a good start.  And I suspect you will quickly bend your learning curve up as you move forward.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

AnotherDonJohn 77 reads
posted
15 / 28


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Scaramouche 204 Reviews 58 reads
posted
16 / 28

Thanks for all the help guys.. hard to do this stuff without you.
I had to block the Ghana troll on WhatsApp since she was pestering me but did not report on SA.
All this can make for an interesting story (or book even) one day.. as long as I protect the innocent. 😇
For now still working on the important part....

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 63 reads
posted
17 / 28

Not as optimistic as the first day when I got a lot of attention. A couple of ladies (including miss TGTBT)  seemed interested and we exchanged texts but then dropped out of sight. A few potential contacts but we'll see.
One fairly hot 34-yr old wanted to meet but wanted a $200 'first date incentive.' I told her I wasn't going to pay anything in advance.. she said 'it's not an advance.' But seems too risky and suggests she may be too pricey for me.

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 73 reads
posted
18 / 28

The gal seemed to think I was in the dark about 'incentive' payments.. but this is what the SA blog says (if it means anything) I'm not gonna argue.. but FYI:

Don’t Expect Gifts

Sorry, Sugars, you can’t expect to get an allowance or a gift on the first date. Though it can happen, it’s not something you’re entitled to. If he does give you a gift or slip you a little extra cash for your time, great! Take it and be grateful, but only if you feel comfortable and are vibing with the POT and want to see him again.

sweetman 93 Reviews 81 reads
posted
19 / 28

"Be sure to look at the last login location on their profile (upper left corner). If it's not US, move on or ask."  What? I don't see anything in the upper left corner about her most recent login location. Please explain.

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 49 reads
posted
20 / 28

On the left side, it says member since/last active/ and recent

In most cases it just says United States.. but for this particular lady it was Australia (which probably means little in the age of VPNs)

herbtcat 6 Reviews 67 reads
posted
21 / 28

Sorry I wasn't clear. Scaramouche got it right. It's under the main profile pic:  

EXAMPLE:
Member Since Jun 22, 2021
Last Active Jul 5, 2021
Recent United States

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 60 reads
posted
22 / 28

A new profile pops up from a 22-year old who says he is a VERY experienced SB.. I send her a compliment and she immediately asks me what I'm looking for. I say 'a great NSA connection maybe short or long term.' She responds by saying yes let's hang out and 'no lower than 500 ppm' This must have caught the moderator and she was off the profile in a few minutes.
I only replied, "I'll think about it," and she said 'Um what? I’m not going to chase after you' in the 5 minutes before she was kicked off.

AnotherDonJohn 146 reads
posted
23 / 28

Joined SA this year as premium member.

Zero previous SB (my previous long-term retired) so it’s been very active acquisition.  

7 POTs converted to SBs since I got the hang of the process from March- June (2/ month).

3 more M&G POTs who didn’t convert. Reasons: 1. 25 yo hot brunette (white) first-timer who is pseudo-engaged and doesn’t know what she wants,  2. 28yo brunette bad girl who smokes like a chimney and doesn’t  have own car (drunk driving), 3. 25yo latina civvie first-timer who i realized is bisexual and was using it to entice her hot 26 yo female friend into a 3some…her friend made an arrangement with me on her own and cut her out lol! (She’s the one from another post who asked for an advance )

ishitunot 11 Reviews 81 reads
posted
24 / 28

Sorry but aren’t they all jaded and fake....women I mean....especially the younger ones aka SB’s. They all cost money and you never know what you’ll actually end up with....except reviewed pros

ishitunot 11 Reviews 62 reads
posted
25 / 28
Scaramouche 204 Reviews 96 reads
posted
26 / 28

Thanks for that!
Can you tell me your price points for these gals and the time you spend with them?  Is it all between the sheets or do they want you to go out on the town or for stuff?
I'm in the DC area so of course things may be different in other locations.

Scaramouche 204 Reviews 65 reads
posted
27 / 28

Bagged my first today..I guess we're not supposed get too detailed, but will say there were some unexpected twists and turns.. she had a friend.. and it ended up being a good time for all even if not what I had anticipated.
I'm in the game....

AnotherDonJohn 102 reads
posted
28 / 28

Hey sorry I’ve been busy working and Sugaring lol.  
Broadly speaking, I’d bet DC is a little more expensive than my area. The girls I’m into typical run $400-500 ppm for 2-5 hr date. There have been two $300s and two $600s. The girls who are less of pros at it or who are more local stay for longer dates; conversely, experienced SB and girls that drive an hour each way stay for less time.  

I’m a foodie and with the right hottie would love to go out for a nice meal (which would add another $150 let’s say for her end). But I’ve found these young girls are pretty fine grabbing wings and getting laid then grabbing a swim lol!

I PM’ed a guy more details so we can continue the discussion there.
Posted By: Scaramouche
Re: Some numbers from a relative newbie like u…
Thanks for that!  
 Can you tell me your price points for these gals and the time you spend with them?  Is it all between the sheets or do they want you to go out on the town or for stuff?  
 I'm in the DC area so of course things may be different in other locations.

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