Thought I found a POT, but after some initial light texting, she went heavy... asking me" how much are you going to pay me per date?" Well, that already had me freaked out, but then she went harder... " what do you expect?"
I played dumb and asked " what do you mean?"
She then dropped the bomb " sexual intent"
I dropped the conversation on that two word response....
I haven't done this before, but I've read how a lot of you guys work, and at no time have I run across an example where things were in bold print before even meeting. This wasn't from an ad on SA or SB. This was a girl who contacted me on a dating site profile I have. To me... it stunk of a sting. I was careful and never responded to either monetary or activity questions, but I'm a little freaked out.
and if I were you, I'd be just as wary.
On the other hand, who has heard of LE posting on sites that are more or less devoted to real civie dating as opposed to the sites like SA where everyone winks at each other?
I think this is just a gal with a case of boundary issues. Not that such a date would bode well anyways.
It never started out as an SB thing, just a girl that I started conversing with... told her a story about a date I had went on sometime ago where the girl was looking for an SD thing, but wasn't about giving " sugar". That's when she jumped in and said she was looking for an SD, and that she had no problem with the sugar part... but from my understanding here....those things are supposed to be sorted on your first face to face. Not through text messaging and put forth in such blatant terms. And not before youve actually met the person. Literally, if I had answered her questions, it would have been a gift wrapped solicitation charge. In print! It just seemed way too " incriminating" . Basically, I'm going to give you X and I expect sex. That's pretty cut and dry. I've never felt paranoid in any of my dealings with pro's. In this instance, I was waiting for a cop to knock on my door.
It could be that she's just not aware of how her messages could look. Or she's done this a lot with many guys she meets on the civvie sites and just pushes to the negotiation to filter out the guys who would never sugar. Or she (maybe he!) is a cop and is too lazy to stop real crime or maybe just bored...
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If you really want to meet her don't answer that question, just ignore it and instead suggest you two meet for a cup of coffee to briefly chat. Take care to say something like "no expectations, just meet and see if we click". If she bails, move on. If she agrees, pick a place in pubic (do not go to her home, hotel, etc.) and sit where you can see the doors. If you are truly paranoid, set your phone to voice record the discussion. It won't stop LE from arresting you if they want to, but it could be useful in getting charges dropped - if you manage to save the recording.
Having been on SA for a few years now, I've noticed a higher frequency of POT SB's doing this. A couple years back this was less the norm but as the site has grown to now include more semi-pro and pro's, plus the fact that the lifestyle expectation has been eliminated from the profiles, I think this is more about a POT SB trying to qualify earlier and sort out her options. I hear there are a lot more tire kickers and time wasters on the site now so it makes sense to me that a savy SB would want to confirm relatively soon allowance expectations. To be honest, lately about 75% of my SB interactions flush out allowance via text before meeting. Part of this is me and my own time constraints and the other part is the SB not wanting to waste her time with some low-baller. That said, I steer clear from the girls who bring it up right away-not so much as I'm worried its a sting, but it's a decent indication that they are pro or semi-pro. Unless LE has a ton of time on their hands, I don't see them investing in one off conversations to pick guys off. I could be totally wrong but that's just my gut. As always, I suggest an initial meet/ greet and try to hold off allowance discussion until then. From there, you set up a BCD date. This will flush out all pro's and many semi-pro's as they view it as a major time waste. Also, all the same safety rules apply in terms of protecting yourself-use a burner phone or texting app, tin eye her pics and google her number, etc. Last, I'm hearing that SA is cracking down on the allowance discussion taking place within the site. Always take that discussion to text or better in person or your profile could be suspended or cancelled. I'd be interested in what everyone else on here is experiencing with SB's wanting to have the allowance discussion upfront.
This is interesting. It's been my preferred practice to always discuss allowance before meeting for coffee. Even more so now that there's no lifestyle expectations listed. But I have never had any problem with SA admin regarding the allowance discussion on their site. However, I can see how now they might have to frown on such talk. Perhaps only discussing allowance in person has become the wiser option. I just hate wasting my time on a SB who's expectation$ are out of line with my own, especially since I normally have to drive an hour to meet them. But maybe I need to reexamine and tune up my procedures.
Honestly, discussing financial terms was less unnerving than being asked to state my sexual intent. She wanted me to point blank state that my intention was to fuck her. Which I did by the way... lol.
For less than I have ever dropped on a pro, I got an overnight with a very fine 23 year old Cuban girl, and a nice treat on the ride back to her car the next day.
Talking to her again, but still avoiding the hard sell questions. She sent me a couple pics, doesn't talk like a cop.... plenty of mundane chit chat. I do get the impression that she may be from the BP unemployment line though...
Not a pro. Went BCD two hours in, and at the cost, I can keep my dick happy at least 3 times a week! Of course this is just the 1st one, but this is definitely a lifestyle I want to continue. Thanks GaGa for the nudge.
In general young potential SB's aren't as likely to be aware of the pitfalls of explicit negotiation. I always meet pot sb's first at a public place for drinks or whatever. The likelihood LE would go through the trouble with all that is exceedingly remote. So I will generally have already made dollar arrangements online. I only ever refer to "behind closed doors activities" rather than anything specific sexually, but that's just as much for their sake (trying not to seem vulgar) than for any legal liability.
Met the SB that I started this thread about. Had a great time with her! Then she ghosted 2 days later. Sent a couple texts... nothing! Ok, so I figured it was a one n done, licked my wounds, and moved on to trying to acquire a new one.
Then she messages me through the site I met her on, saying her phone got broken by a a guy she used to fuck with who can't let go.... well, I figured a little drama would be involved messing with a 23 year old...
Anyway, tells me she's coming by tonight at 8. Well, it's 8:30 and I haven't heard or seen anything of her. Now...if the phones broken, I guess it would be kind of hard to let me know it's not gonna happen... But I have a real issue with flaking. When I visit pro's ...I set the appointment, I keep the appointment, I show up early, but never contact before 5 minutes prior to appointment time, so as not to interrupt her between appointment ritual. But this is just one girl....you guys deal with this shit on a whole other magnitude! Fuck it...just venting, but I was really looking forward to fucking her tonight! Even though I just had a 2 hour with a fabulous pro this morning. Damn greedy dick!
You might want to be sure your doors and windows are locked.
Who knows...could be all bullshit. I haven't had anything come up to lead me to believe there's any reason for concern on my part. For all I know, she's just playing mind games.