The Erotic Highway

Re: Honestly, what are they thinking?
ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 2140 reads
posted
1 / 20

Recent text exchanges with 3 POT SB's have me wondering if I missed the memo outlining how SB rates have increased.  Perhaps this is unique to the DC metro.

POT #1.  Flaked on 1st M&G.  Made it to next M&G 4 weeks later.  24, smokin' hot latina, single mom, intelligent and sexy.  Agreed to proceed BCD, but she wants $700 ppm.  I offered less and she has gone silent.    

POT#2.  Newbie to the site.  21, smokin' hot AA with beautiful face, slim and voluptuous.  After agreeing to $400 ppm, went silent for 2 months.  Unfortunately, she resurfaced at $800 ppm.  Will not budge.

POT#3.  Recent college graduate.  23, mixed, big tits, gorgeous face.  Exchanged text messages over 3-4 weeks before she agreed to meet for dinner.  Wants $500 ppm, which includes the M&G dinner date in which she explicitly states there will be no physical contact.  GTFOOH!

Maybe it's because I'm looking at 9's and 10's on the physical scale that their requests are high?  Perhaps the politicians, lawyers and consultants are overpaying and driving the market up?   What's it like in your bowl?

hobby48 18 Reviews 121 reads
posted
2 / 20

I’m getting hit on by POTs that after you get through the negotiation the add fees.  I had Nanny fees at 26 an hour, Uber fees.  Next into the bowl, gas money and you need to pay 80 for a great auntie sitter, (she’s in a chair and all). Another who will only see guys that are 6 hours by car.  You gonna Payson yo get me there , send $100 up front, etc.   Many who are negotiating now for when the come back to school in August.   Crazy!

johndoe2012b 2 Reviews 142 reads
posted
3 / 20

You gotta be willing to walk away if you don't like the price.

I had a really nice exchange with a seemingly very bright and very together and attractive co-ed and she asked for $1K, whereby I presumed that ensured intimacy and she said yes... then I outlined some parameters, made sure we were on the same page for how such an event might go, talked about testing and protection and a BBFS scenario, then I said I usually don't go above 4 (thinking to myself that I would be expecting to meet in the middle), but I prefer to defer until after we meet. In subsequent talks as we are getting closer to a M&G, she brought up the allowance should we immediately go BCD if the M&G goes well, and at my urging she dialed it back to 6, which is still a little steep... but she seems like someone I could end up seeing on a regular basis, enjoying an entire evening with her, and at the same time help further her education...  

Now I'll admit, my alternatives are many, but even if I go pro, I generally like a 2 hour session, so this girl is still in the realm of being very reasonable.

But yes, many girls have GPS.

sweetman 93 Reviews 142 reads
posted
4 / 20

"she" says she'll only date someone who lives hours away.
She's going through as divorce.
She must have 100% discretion.
These are the reddest of red flags and always result in a request for travel money, which will lead to nothing good should you fall for it.  Avoid these, and report them to SA admin.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 162 reads
posted
5 / 20

... for SB allowances. But definitely an increase in GPS, scammers and POT SB's trying to get online only arrangements.  
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At least I have not increased my offer range in the last 4 years.  But I've seen a big increase in non-viable POT profiles.  
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1. Steady flow of favs from South America and other countries.  
2. Huge prevalence of relatively new profiles stating online only or online at first due to COVID. (Interesting that SA's TOS specifically ban online only. Perhaps they are looking the other way during the pandemic?)  
3. Smaller increase of "local" profiles turning out to be located out of state. They use a location nearby, then mention in the profile (or later in text) that they are elsewhere due to (insert reason) so lets start online and we can meet... but I've already moved on by then.  
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But I'd say when I look at my numbers over a period of time, say the last 8 weeks, I am still getting the same number of M&G's and still able to lock in BCD for $250-$400. That is probably a bit below average for an LA 8+ SB. Add to that the inability to go out to expensive dinners or go shopping for stupid shit for her and I'm actually about 20% under my quarterly sugar budget - which I used to get some choice KGirl time.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

KL69069 51 Reviews 133 reads
posted
6 / 20

It used to be that scammers were rare.  I find legit SBs are in the minority now--and many of them have GPS.  Sifting through SA has become far more challenging.  It's surely not a case of shooting fish in a barrel in D.C. unless you are willing to go to $600-$800.

Badboy1234 10 Reviews 138 reads
posted
7 / 20

Anything under $400. My last one was at $500 and she was just average. I do see more 18 to 20 year olds posting but I prefer the above 25 crowd.

PolePosition 140 reads
posted
8 / 20

Was wondering about that...haven't been on SA (or even here) much lately - but there seems to easily be a doubling of scammers, from on-line/photo girls/and money in advance girls.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 142 reads
posted
9 / 20

A quick P411 check of Atlanta shows lots of pros for $300 for one hour.  

Badboy1234 10 Reviews 164 reads
posted
10 / 20

I have not seen. Pro in about 5 years since the LE crackdown. Beside I get more BBFS with the SB’s.

Badboy1234 10 Reviews 111 reads
posted
11 / 20

Even paying a little extra is worth it to me. I had one that we did overnights that didn’t cost much more than a meeting and she seemed to enjoy those more.

KJ5233 122 reads
posted
12 / 20

Although I've had success with BCD; many of the new POT have asked for 500 PPM plus. One was over 40 and certainly not worth it. Unfortunately many of the POT lack any skills in communication. Sending barely one line messages. I have no desire to respond to those. I'm just going to be patience and pick and choose as the messages keep coming in.  

novabender33 26 Reviews 95 reads
posted
13 / 20

Covid has been pretty brutal, I’ve gotten 3 pots in AZ wanting 1000 per meet just today.

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 127 reads
posted
14 / 20

Had a meet and great last week that went well with tall Russian, nice rack and body, cute'ish, late 30's (lied on profile, but the math is easy when she has a 21 yo).  Messaged today about our planned date #2
Me: Lunch again or fun in a cozy, private setting.  
Her: Whatever you like.  
Me:  Let's do both, I'll pick up lunch/champagne and get a room for us to enjoy food followed by fun
Her:  Do you mean sex?
Me:  Yes.  But if you are not comfortable or unsure, let's just meet for lunch
Her: What about finances?
Me:  Remember, I asked you before and you deferred the discussion.  What are you comfortable with?
Her:  I have bills and could use help, $2500
Me:  OK, I can offer $400 every time that we meet and have a great time.  Can erase that $2500 bill in 2 to 3 months.
Her:  No, I want $2500 a month.
Me:  OK, then I would want to see you twice weekly, but that doesn't work with my schedule.
Her: No response

sweetman 93 Reviews 127 reads
posted
15 / 20

I don't mind (too much) when I hear a big number like that as long as she is actually realistic about negotiating a reasonable allowance.  I guess many of these SB wannabees never have considered that they have competition.  Reminds me of a very refreshing profile I came across recently in which the SB said she knew she had lots of competition and would make sure she was the best deal available, in every way.  It was rare and refreshing to read something sensible and accurate about the realities of sugar dating.  I'm kinda tired of all the ones with GPS.

herbtcat 6 Reviews 125 reads
posted
16 / 20

I did a post a couple of years back on "Sugar Math" where I did a quick model of how much an SD needs to earn to be able to afford an SB, or multiple SB's.  There was lots of back and forth on many of my base assumptions, but the main takeaway was that an SD needs to clear at least $500 to $2,000 a month of cash AFTER all other expenses to be able to play in the sugar bowl.  If you work that back to an annual gross income, an SD would probably need to be making at least  $200k a year to be able to comfortably keep an SB. (Please do not start micro-analyzing these numbers - I don't care if your math is different.)
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My point is that an SB asking for $2,500 a month from an average SD (ok, there isn't really an "average" SD, but you get the idea) has never considered that the amount is perhaps as much as 30-40% of an SD's take home pay.  
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So are they insane? Probably not. They have probably never really analyzed the data from the SD's side. If I was an SB (note: I do have an SB profile for "research"), and I wanted to get $2,500 a month, I would only talk to SD's who say their income was at least $300,000 a year. And I'd ignore any SD who makes less than that because if that is really their income, there is no way they can afford to pay that amount.  
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In the current climate of lockdowns, all SB logic or analysis seems to have flown out the window. So yes, we see an increase in GPS, scammers, and IMO otherwise "legit" or "honest" POT SB's who don't really realize why their ask is unrealistic.  
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Now my #1 SB just texted me a pic of her topless in skinny jeans with a note that says "This is comin for you today..." so I gotta go, 'cause...  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

GaGambler 131 reads
posted
17 / 20

If I REALLY wanted to fuck her at least once, I might have gone with, "Ok, that's fine. Lets plan on meeting twice a week, I'll give you $400 every time we meet and you'll actually end up with MORE than the $2,500 a month you need, but I really don't mind giving you the extra money as long as we are making each other happy"  

 
and then of course, just like the SB who gets paid her "monthly allowance" all at one, you can simply find yourself too busy to see her more than how often you really "want" to see her. See, two can play that game. lol

 
To tell the honest truth though, when a POT makes a statement like "Do you mean sex?" It usually means she really doesn't want to fuck and most likely even if you do get in her pants, she's very likely to be a cold fish, and there is no fish colder than a mercenary Russian bitch. OTOH, some Russians are not only hot as fuck, but will rock your world BCD as well. Russians tend to run to both extremes without a lot of them to be found in the middle.

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 126 reads
posted
18 / 20

Did a variation of this with my 1st SB who wanted $1200/month.  Agreed with the stipulation that I could see her anytime I wanted.  She lived in townhouse near my gym, recently divorced and not working.  Had sex with her 6 times the 1st month and 7 the second month.  Month 3, she became less available and then wanted to renegotiate.

JustSayMyName 56 Reviews 122 reads
posted
19 / 20

I just gave up after a month of bullshit back on the site. It was endless scammers, fake locations, online only, and GPS.  I think the government money printing and unemployment wages are inflating prices and messing things up.  Two of the girls in my rotation are actually doing better because of unemployment and PPP so they seem to have actually stopped checking SA for the time being. Another has the same steady job but doesn’t spend as much and is worried about getting sick, so she’s not really looking for new daddies. That’s 3 legit SBs off the site. Funny thing is, one of those girls gave me a bunch of freebies because she got on unemployment and happened to need rebound sex after getting dumped by her real life boyfriend.  

My unicorn SB/mistress is also doing well on the unemployment teet. I haven’t had to pay her rent in 2 months. But she was off the site well before COVID.  

So I went back on SA feeling pretty generous and willing to pay out the nose for a super hot trial run but even with that attitude, it didn’t pan out.   I am super picky and love to lowball just for fun though, so that always messes up my odds , Golden Penis Syndrome, haha.  

I feel bad for the new daddies in this market. Big government is the ultimate sugar daddy, apparently.

RCShobby 18 Reviews 143 reads
posted
20 / 20

I try to keep things light. To me, this needs to be flirty, fun, and pleasurable. If this is a business to her, I don't want to know. If we can't come to an understanding in 5 minutes or less than I'm thinking this isn't a good match for me.

I don't do arrangements, I only do PPM.

I won't pay more than 400. My best SB so far was 250 and lived a mile from me. I bet 400 is a lot more than the average SB is making at their job in a day. And if they want to wait for someone to pay more, well then that is their prerogative. I leave it with "I'd love to see you so give me a shout if you change your mind."

I am happy to pay for dinner or drinks if she wants to do a M&G. If there mutual interest, then my contribution will already be decided.

I won't pay for a room.

My philosophy is this, Let's have fun and some laughs, and I'm happy to contribute to your expenses. You can do what you want with my contribution; Pay some bills, buy some books, get a tattoo, whatever. However, I'm not responsible for your financial stability. My guess is that she's going to spend it, but my hope is that she puts it away.

Be safe.

Just my .02.

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