So I just joined the site a week ago. I am a veteran on this board and experienced with the P4P game, but this is new and interesting to me so far.  

I am late 50’s – tall guy and still have a great head of hair that is the same color as in my 20’s. I am lucky and realize it. Can pass for early 50’s, Have thought about reaching out to the younger ladies, say mid low 20’s but that seems very young to me. I have daughters just past that age, so maybe that’s it. But from reading posts, seems like the younger SB’s are better - within reason of course, say 22 up?? I am married and post no photo - but will send it to out of towners I travel on business - and selectively send locally as I am in larger MW city.  

So far I have had an offer for 1200 a visit - hot late 20’s woman – but lots of laughter and disbelief on my end after that text - she clearly does not know the market rates.  Quick story, I have local pro that I have seen for the last month. She is 38 and a 10 in looks and 9 or better body it’s all good with her – 3xx an hour and she is worth every penny of it. After my second visit, I said to myself, now I done looking for a while -  this is who I am going to see for the foreseeable future. Then it hit me for the umpteenth time in my life, it’s variety we are all always looking for in this arena - as well as quality obviously!    

Next was a 40 yo hottie who pursued me and wanted 2k per month, which I countered with a request to pay as we go to start. She then told me that was too much like being a prostitute???? Ok - whatever. I am not opposed to setting up an arrangement, but need to get to know and kind of like someone first - at least that’s my spin.  

Had coffee this am with a 29 yr old - who I cancelled on once but she responded very quickly again this time and we meet. Pretty lady and I liked her - looks 8 bod 7+ - a little thick below the waste, but no issue for me. I told her up front that I would not pay “thousands of dollars” for an arrangement. Anyway - we are set to meet next week at her place, but did not discuss any specific amount of $. I guess we will play that by ear - I am thinking giving her 2xx.    

Also reached out to an out of town lady - 26 and very good looking and she agreed to meet me for dinner next trip into town – I travel for business a bit. All seemed ok, I mean most women won’t turn down a nice dinner for free, and I can expense it. Only thing that threw me is when she said ok, she responded with her name followed by xoxo? I am not in the civie dating scene for a long time now, but the only ladies who has ever responded to me that way have been pro’s? Thoughts on that from the peanut gallery or any of my comments here?  

In summary – the SD/SB is good so far, but probably much more productive for single guys. I am always very cautious given my situation being attached, but there is definitely opportunity to have some fun, will just take some work and I think patience is important. By the way, this is a great forum and I laugh every time I read something here - appreciate all the posts and plan on adding whatever I can moving forward

Personally I wouldn't have the nerve to play in whilst married. Needless to say but be careful.

Thanks and roger that. I am not sure how long I am going to do it - maybe I can get a few contacts and then lay low. I have a limited appetite for these side ladies, so volume is not my goal. I still think the P4P is still safest, given my situation.

... for some aspiring and potential SBs. I had been told on several occasions by some potential SBs during the "interview" process that their best and fondest SDs were the traveling types where the traveling type who were temporary who were not going to become an infringement on the said SBs private and normal life. These type of guys (corporate transplants for 3-6 months) easily pay up to 3K per month with perks and SBs love this for once-twice weekly visits including some extra perks (putting, dinners. shopping). Also, most would consider P4P and PAYG for travelers. I often view the LA's SA board about 120 miles north of me and I get messaged by POT SBs if I was looking for a date when in LA?! (it's a greta feature when they're notified immediately as to who has looked at their profile!).

Just like SftD had intimated, this game is NOT for a married man in his local market as he may expose himself to many challenges and perils specially if in a small area, but it's a wonderful adult playground if you happen to travel outside of your domicile and domain, know the game and are willing to part with 500 or so all in for a session of fun while rejuvenating yourself both mentally and physically. I personally like the game and enjoy the chase which heightens my libido, but that's just me.

Good advice - I am in a decent sized city - but I am already considering giving up the local game and I have only been playing for a couple weeks - just to risky. Given that I do travel, I think that is my best approach. Thanks again for the advice and I agree, the game and the chase heightens the libido - at least for a man of my age!

I travel a lot to one city right now and have been working that angle.  I have my first meetings with POT SBs this coming week.

Wish me luck.  I'm a nube going in for my first time. LOL

I figured that been attached playing in my local sugar land was too risky so I decided on playing in a different city.  Traveling as part of my job is normal so I selected a close city and started my search a year ago with great success.  As long as you visit with some frequency and state that from the beginning you will be fine.  I had to deactivate my account several times due to the attention I was receiving.  My last arrangement was $800 per long weekend with a smoking hot 23 year old medical school student.  She was more than happy with the arrangement and was as good as any pro bcd.  Also very nice and smart.

Over 60, married, kids in their 30s, with the only difference being that I live in a big city, I have a somewhat different perspective. I have been hobbying with ladies in their early 20s for quite a while. Yes, it is weird in a way that they are younger than my kids, but I am paying for a beautiful body and that is where the most beautiful ones can be found, Not that I do not understand the issues most people and society at large have with this (and most of the other things we do here), it just does not bother me. I am quite capable of separating the two things in my mind. I am not having sex with my kids, my kids' friends, or anything other than a lovely adult who treats me very well. My companions do this willingly, knowingly and I treat them well. That is my view.

Since I live in a big city, I am not too uncomfortable with having an SB. My marital situation may be a bit unusual in ways that give me more freedom than most - my wife likes her own space, and she gives me a lot of space, too, more than I wanted at times - the fact that we both like that has always been key to our compatibility.

SBs are less controllable than providers, no question, and there have been days with dates or meet ups that were at unusual times and places when I wondered if I was going to get questions at home, but I was proactive in my explanations, I have always wandered off to weird or vague places at different times by myself for amusement, so she is mostly used to that. Some of the places I go to and things I do, aside from P4P, make her a little worried about my safety, so she has asked I not tell her about near accidents on a bicycle, for example. Anyway, I do not get a lot of questions, and I do report on my day most days, just spin it a little when I need to skip the lady I saw. If I was in a smaller city or a town where the likelihood of running into people I know was much higher, I am not sure this would work even given my marital situation, but it seems fine in Chicago.

If you can manage the risks, I think a married guy is pretty attractive to the more experienced and aware SBs. Especially a married man who says he has some experience as an SD. As with the hobby, one of the big problems for an SB in an ongoing relationship can be boundaries. Both respecting hers and even worse, falling for her. A married guy with SD experience is often viewed as pretty safe in that sense.

You might try this line on a potential SB who resists pay by meeting. I usually say that I know this is less desirable for her as it is unpredictable, so after we have met 2-3 times and know we get along well, I will be happy to set a schedule a month or two ahead to give her the ability to predict her cash flow. This works better for me because I know when I will see her, and I can keep those days and times clear.

This line seems to be very well received, no arguments yet. It also works whether you actually plan to have a LTR with someone, as I do, or you do not. You just have to say that it is not clicking for you and move on.

have fun

zi

SB's are more fun about the same price as providers in the long run.     The providers have  better sex by far and easier to arrange.      Might meet one but haven't yet.

Just how do you know hooker sex is better than SB sex

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Thanks for the insight - all good stuff. Unfortunately I have a much shorter lease most of the time, but I travel so I have my opportunities in that space. And to your point, you just have to be able to separate the two worlds and experiences -  have been able to do that with the P4P for a few years. Meeting with my first SB this week at her place, we did have coffee and she knows what I want - starts with s ends with x. We have no set $ so not sure what to expect. She sent me a text yesterday saying "I can't wait to see you" not sure if that is sincere or part of the game - either way I liked it. She is 29 and not a nit wit - so as many have said on in this space when it comes to females - who knows? Will report back after the meeting later this week.

Good luck all the way... I bet you have fun. For me I am much more relaxed when I am on the road SDating. I have dinner scheduled with a 26 yo out of town next week - and her photos are hot - as always seeing is believing. I plan to take her to a nice restaurant and feed her wine or whatever liquor and see where it goes. My guess is she won't spoil dinner with some outrageous $request early on.  

Question, if the SB agrees to dinner with an out of town guy, more than likely she is more of a soft pro than looking for an arrangement - I am guessing? I guess like most of these situations, you just have to show up and see what happens. Fun for an older guy playing in the sugar bowl, just wish I had more time for it.

but as far as guesses go, I tend to agree with your assessment.

as for your plan of feeding her and plying her with liquor, that is a page right out of the GaGambler playbook. I wish you GREAT luck. lol