I met a new SB. Had a lovely time with her for $400. I sent her a note to see if she could meet this weekend and she said sure but it would be $600. She said she “always“ got $600 and was just doing me a favor for the first meeting. I have never had that happen to me. is that a common thing? By the way, this is the one who said she wanted to be exclusive, but then has been advertising on both seeking and sugar, daddy, and now that I think of it, her admission that she “always“ get $600 it’s just more evidence that she’s not being exclusive. Anyway, has this type of thing ever happened to anyone else?

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I can't think of a price raise like that happening to me.  I'd take it that it means she didn't feel the chemistry with you.  It doesn't always work out.  I get three types of reactions -- some bug me for future dates, I've gotten a future discount, some don't initiate second contact, but are agreeable, and some make excuses why they aren't available.  I would classify  a price increase in that last category, they're not that excited to do it again.  Spend your time on the first two categories.

This was several years ago.  I started dating a lovely girl I met on SA.  I think we went BCD all of twice, for the original price we had agreed upon.  Then she asked for double that amount and when I declined she said she was going to "pursue more lucrative opportunities". I never saw her again, but I did see her pop up on several escort sites!  Usually the original agreed price is what persists throughout the arrangement.  So it pays to negotiate with care.   One idea I learned here (but have never used yet) is that if you can't agree on an amount, you could offer her something higher than your original offer for the first time BCD together as a "signing bonus".  With the clear understanding that you will renegotiate after that first time.  If she agrees it gives you the opportunity to get your foot in the door (wait, wrong metaphor again!)  and impress the heck out of her in the bedroom so she will really want to see you again.  And if that doesn't work, at least you had a one and done with a hottie, which ain't a bad thing.

Never had the situation the OP suggested, and I concur that she is not into you.  Let her go.  

I have actually had Sweetman's second idea -- renegotiate after the first date -- work well on two different occasions.  One was a very hot 22-yer-old that lasted a year and was a legitimately solid arrangement like we all seek.   I really wanted her naked, and the first offer got her there.  She pursued the continuation of the arrangement (see Cat's DATY thread), offered the new arrangement, and we settled into an every other week pattern until she moved away.

The other was a nice hot woman, and again, a real desire to get her BCD -- ended up as good sex with no chemistry -- went from 300 to 250 and became an intermittent thing where I dropped her a line when I wanted to see her.  Saw her maybe five or six times over four years.  I think if I called her today, it would be 250.  Nothing special as a sugar arrangement, but I got good sex with a nice woman and a predictable outcome.  

I am pretty sure she had a good time. She has been bugging me to come back, but at $600. I think this relationship is over though as  (a)  I don't want to pay $600 and (b) I do not feel in control of the relationship.  The vibe is just wrong and seems to have been from the beginning.  Not worth the hassle.

I'm not a fan of renegotiating after the 1st BCD. Certainly, an SB may force the discussion, but as Ali2 notes, it means the issue of control is not settled.  I prefer to negotiate upfront with the assumption that we will have an ongoing arrangement, knowing that either of us can bail at any time (it is "no-strings" after all).  

 
So some observations/thoughts about this post:  
1. "Exclusive" is fantasy. We know it, she knows it. But she may want to offer it (falsely) as a negotiating tactic. She incorrectly assumes we will care about other dicks using her parts - and we don't; as long as she showers and gets tested, please. So acknowledge when she offers, but assume (and don't care) that it's a lie.
2. I did post about the power of good DATY. But that still lays (pun intended) on the foundation of cash paid for intimate time.  
3. Control is yours to keep or give away. You always have the power to say no. And you are correct to do so in this case, but...
4. There are a few approaches you can take IF you want to renegotiate your arrangement.  
A. Propose more frequent dates as a means to get more funds.  
B. Since she is focused on the cash, offer to drop the date extras like expensive dinners and gifts/shopping
C. Meet her half-way, then drop the date extras anyway.  
NOTE: Underlying all of these strategies you must base your proposals on YOUR BUDGET, not her "worth."  Never tell her she is not "worth" $600. Tell her your budget makes it difficult to commit to anything over $400 for an ongoing arrangement.  She will never agree she is worth less. Let her find a way to "fit" into your budget, and therefore you own the "control" valve for the arrangement.  

 
Finally, arrangements always end.  I suggest you not focus too hard (pun intended - again!) on keeping this one, as there will be new SB's in your area soon.  I'd rather have fond memories of a few great, hot, sloppy, wet, earth-shaking BCDs with one SB, than several memories of uncomfortable, awkward, is-THIS-really-worth-an-extra-$200-when-there's-a-sweet-18-23-year-old-hottie-I-could-be-banging-for-less moments.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

It happened to me once, after seeing a very sexy girl a few times.  Suddenly it went from $400 to $600.  I took it to mean she didn't like me, or wasn't attracted to me, or whatever.  I said a respectful "you can ask whatever you want" and then said goodbye.

But in my experience, I stay away from such final dispositions.  If you leave your status open, she may, over a short or long period, back off the ask for more cash and want to return to the status quo.  

 
I recommend we never burn bridges.  It costs nothing to be nice. And she can learn never to mistake kindness for weakness.  With a softer approach/response, I've actually had SB's return to me after weeks, months or even years asking to reconnect. In many of these, I actually negotiated DOWN with a reply like:  

 
"Hi! I'd love to see you again after all this time.  Checking my current budget (Note: always leverage on budget, never price or worth), are you ok with (last amount less 20-50%) right now?"  

 
Obviously, this should generally only be used on B-level or lower SB's. So you wont mind if she balks.  

 
But note that you have flipped the script: It was her pushing for more. Now it's you pulling for less with the (true) implication that she needs your cash more than you need her pussy.  

 
This has been an excellent discussion!  

 
Life is good.

 
The Cat

Hit it off chatting on platform with a 20yo AA spinner on the east coast. She readily switched to text where we discussed details. She said she wanted a ppm of 700 *plus* 3k per month! Haha. I told her 500 ppm and she immediately agreed. She then clarified to make sure I understood the 500 ppm was fine without the extra 3k per month allowance. (Uh, yeah, the additional allowance was never in the cards.)

 
We confirmed everything we like and don't like in the bedroom. And she volunteered four hours! Game on, date set for tomorrow, and good night until morning.  

 
Then, first thing in the morning I wake up to a long text lecturing me about how she's no prostitute, she looked up my net worth and I can afford far more than 500 and she even found a middle finger emoji with which to salute me. The topper was if I was agreeable to her original proposal of 700ppm + 3k/month, then everything's good.

 
So of course we don't burn bridges here (right, HTC?), so I responded with as much kindly politeness and wisdom as I could muster and ... crickets of course. Hahaha!

... sometimes she starts the fire on her side of the bridge.  :lol  

 
There's really no way to know for certain what thought process she went through (perhaps with feedback from someone else - pimp, BF, GF, feminist blogger?) to flip her agreement. I have long considered that some SBs - those who are more analytical - use the net worth and annual pay data in their negotiation strategy.  It only takes some simple math and an understanding of payroll (gross pay vs net) & cost of living basics to calculate/estimate how much disposable cash an SD has each month.  This is the 1st time I've ever actually seen a POT cite that as a validation for her asking rates. Of course, this POT did not understand that part of the reason most of us have a significant net worth is that we don't blow it off on babes.  Sugaring is generally funded on the disposable funds we DON'T use to build net worth.  

 
Of course $700 ppm is outrageous, let alone an ADDITIONAL $3k a month 'just because.'   It makes me wonder how many other POT SDs she's talked to that didn't even blink at this offer.  I have some limited knowledge from a former SB on this. I was her 1st or 2nd SD and she was happy to get $300 ppm and all other date expenses paid by me. But 2 years later, after she moved closer to more affluent areas in So Cal (Manhattan Beach, etc.) she tells me she regularly gets offered and accepts $1k ppm.  

 
Maybe your AA spinner will reconsider when/if her allowance ask gets repeatedly declined?  Or maybe there are now more inexperienced or uber-wealthy SD's around... Fortunately, in the time you went through your offer, her acceptance, then her rejection, there have probably been at least 2,000 new POT SB's in your state (i.e.: They just had their 18th birthday.)  There will always be more coming along...  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat