I started off trying to find a SB and I ended up meeting a really amazing woman.  She is the most passionate, orgasmic woman I have ever met.  She is 18 years younger than me but wow....she made me feel like a total stud.    I've never had a P4P experience come close to what happened with her today so the SB thing for me has been so much better.  

I've only ever met one other woman in my life who knocked my socks off like she did.  

The reason I'm sharing is just to say that you never know what might happen with a SB.  I can't really call her a SB as no sugar has ever been involved.   I did drop candy and flowers off at her office yesterday though.  She loved that.

Treat the women well guys and you never know where the road might take you.

You are right.   Be honest, treat them right and the rewards are unbelievable.     Last weekend on our date she spent overnight with me.    We slept together in the nude.     In the morning,   I made her coffee, got her breakfast in bed and we showered together!    Drove her to college on Monday morning.     I still got a hangover from last weekend!    She is 45 years younger than me.

Seems like they want the money, nice dinner but enjoy the sex more and put more into it.     Have a cute spinner regular 49 yrs my junior that is getting more comfortable with me and has O'ssssssssss and more O's.    Really enjoys the sex.       I don't think I have any competition.      I don't think they have ever had anyone in their life that they could depend on when they are down and out.

how did you find her?  On a SB site?  If so, which one?

I hope you realize that according to Z, none of what you describe is even possible, much less actually happening to you.  

All SBs are money grubbing little wanna be hookers

All SB's have a BF

All SB's merely "tolerate" the sex

All SB's will drop you in a second if they get a better offer

 
You guys need to wake up and smell the coffee, this is NOT happening to you, you are simply in a dream world. lol

There's no detail that the persona "Zangari" is one of the most cynical posters on the subforum who summarily dismisses and disavows anyone else's experiences which do not conform and relate to his actual or embellished (for the sake of entertainment on here) experiences.

That said, I am firmly of the opinion that if/when you (the general form) meet a woman on a Sugar based site and do not discuss an arrangement in some form and do not layout boundaries at the outset, that quasi traditional "dating" and the so-called free p*ssy that comes with it can turn sour very quickly (no pun) on you. As you had noted yourself, women are mercenaries which is a part of their hypergamous nature. You will soon enough either get presented with an unexpected hefty bill (major past due rent, legal bills, car payments, repairs etc) or some major emotionally tangled drama. Should these happen, the POT SD really ought to accept blame for failing to set and fine the parameters of an NSA relationship!

Bottom line: I am always skeptical of women who are on a Sugar site yet fail to articulate their motivations and their desires but I do believe that both kindness and attentiveness need not be dismissed and you don't have to be a total d*ck to women you meet on a P4P site!

I meant to say that,  "there's no denial..." but I don't know how the fooque my autocorrect went to "detail"!!!

"IF" I start seeing a SB, get myself some free pootang and she subsequently goes either BSC or overly mercenary on me, which I will concede does happen. If it does, no biggie, I simply dump her and move on to the next one.

For the record, establishing an "arrangement" does not preclude any of these "emergencies" that come up at an all too frequent rate. What the "arrangement" establishes is a "minimum" baseline that the SB can count on, not a "maximum"  

Which is better for the SD, a zero dollar "minimum"? or a $500 week minimum?

I think what both you and Z seem to discount is the SD's ability to say NO. Maybe I have had more experience saying NO to women given my many years of hanging around Latin America where men are not the hunters, but the prey to hot women. After being hit on by a thousand different hotties, saying no comes quite easily when a woman goes into mercenary mode. lol

The one consistent thing you will hear from me when I start complaining about a Sugar Baby "gone bad" will be "I am certainly going to miss that girl" lol

The only way that Zangari and Princi should be mentioned in the same sentence is only when I spend a 2 week vacation in Chernobyl and come back with a rich and nice tan

I admit that from all the years which I have been reading you, GaGa does not come across to me as a supplicating welcome doormat to women across the "dating" gamut! However, I just want to convey caution based on my personal experiences that without set boundaries, drama can ensue faster in the P4P realm, when there is no first P than in a normal and traditional setting. Nowhere as bad or severe as not P'ing a hooker or accidentally short P'ing a hooker, but it will and it does come.

Yes I absolutely concede that most women have needs that are rooted in financial matters and that even a civil GF will have expectations specially when there's a 10+ years age differential. You as a single person like me, are perhaps better equipped to deal with drama and certain threats as opposed to our married mongers. I still strongly advocate that married mongers with substantial net worth and those who stand to lose a lot of it ought not mess around with SBs and if they do, exercise very tight rules and regulation and have a as-solid-as-can-be arrangement in place as an insurance policy. The allure of "free' p*ssy is very intoxicating because it is a very high form of esteem affirmation for an older Gent, but..

She told me what happened with her and I.  As a bit of history, she had been married for about 15 or 16 years and her husband had not treated her well.  They separated and are getting divorced.  She has 2 kids under the age of 4.

She had signed up on the SA site and had seen a couple guys.  She needed money to pay off student loans.  One guy she actually had an arrangement with for a few months until he stopped coming to town.

She said she had this wall up and was in it for the sex and money and didn't have feelings for anyone.  When it ended, she didn't even really miss the one guy she had seen for a while  

Then she met me at a park.  She told me that when I kissed her, I kissed her so passionately and with such tenderness that the wall came crashing down and she was overwhelmed with emotion.  She didn't know how to process what happened.

I have no doubt some of you guys are better in the sack than me but I can kiss with the best of them.  I've even had 2 women spontaneously orgasm from just my kissing them with no other sexual touch.  I don't know what I do, but apparently I do it well!  LOL!

Anyway...she definitely has feelings for me and right now we're more like BF and GF.  I have to be careful, of course, as to not let her get hurt.  But we talk and that's the most important thing when it comes to watching out for each other's feelings

I am really happy for you guys who have a large age difference and who have found yourselves a special woman.  Thank you for sharing your stories!  It's inspiring!

If any of you have read some of what I have shared about my wife, you'll know that in the sex department things were really, really bad.  Some of you have wives who don't want sex, my situation was worse as I lived over 30 years of sex being used to manipulate me and hurt me.   Abusive sex is far worse then no sex.  I actually chose to stop sleeping with my wife rather than subject myself to her abuse and manipulate.  The irony is I lived with the feeling of not being wanted for over 30 years.  She's lived with it for 2 years and had to go in for therapy.

I had gotten to the point where I felt like I was too old to ever be able to attract a younger, pretty woman.  I felt like I wasted my life. That I would never experience a normal relationship with an attractive, feminine woman.  I started drinking.  I'm not an alcoholic. But I was pretty much drinking every evening.  I pride myself on having a healthy mind, I've never had depression, but even so I had decided if drinking caused me to die who cares...  It wasn't depression...it was more of I just didn't give a damn one way or the other any more.  

Seeing escorts was a pleasant experience but not as fulfilling as what I would have liked.  I thought my best days were behind me and I had missed them.

Then I tried the sugar baby experience...and guys you have to give Zangori credit because he pretty much started it here.  At least he did for me and I appreciate what he posts.  I appreciate GaGambler equally.

When I had my SB experience with this woman, that I shared above, everything changed.  I now know that I'm not too old.  That a younger woman can find me attractive (she told me so)...her body can't lie...she was sopping wet for me and moaning every time that I kissed her.  She would breath hard and  shudder when I kissed her...especially when I kissed her neck.

Now you guys are sharing your experiences with fairly large age differences.  This is a long-winded way of saying that these experiences and the things you've all shared have really changed my life for the better.  Instead of feeling like I wasted my life, I now know that the future can hold a lot of great things and there is still plenty of time to experience some really wonderful ladies.

Yesterday when I looked into this SB's eyes...I saw such longing, love, passion I mean it was unbelievable.  It wasn't a once or twice look.  The whole time she looked at me like that. I don't know her well enough to know if that's just her or if what I was seeing in her eyes  really had to do with me.  I'm really of the impression that I've made her feel things she may have never felt before.  She certainly woke me up!

So thanks guys.  Please keep sharing your experiences.

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Good Luck and keep it going on your and her terms.

This past Friday afternoon I picked up my college SB on my motorcycle and drove her to my home.  She's 50 years younger than me.  At home, she met my lovely wife and they got along just fine.  Then I took my SB shopping, and bought her a few trinkets of jewelry she liked which set me back less than $100. After that we went to a restaurant where we met my wife and her current BF.  All four of us had a splendid dinner and conversation!  Then the wife and BF went to his house, me and my SB went to mine. The sex was wonderful.  Seems to get better and better every time with this girl as we get to know each other better.  She appreciates the care I take to make sure she is [pleased.  She's quite submissive, and I am kinda dominant so we both love me being on top of her and pressing her body down into the bed while I fuck her brains out. Anyway, after numerous Os for her and one big one for me we went to sleep naked.  I woke up in the morning with this sweet angel sleeping beside me.  Got up and had coffee while she slept some more, then made her breakfast when she got up. We talked about many subjects of mutual interest and then it was time to drive her home.  I gave her the regular $200 gift I always give her which she always seems genuinely happy to receive.  All in all a very affordable 21 hour date with a young angel. I realize most wives would go ballistic at the very idea of this kind of arrangement, but my wife and I are truly polyamorous and it works well for us.  It sure makes my life easier.  No need to hide the credit card bills or hide the cash being spent. And it makes our life at home so much better too.

yeah...i am with you on this.