The Erotic Highway

Probably should just stick to fukking.
lester_prairie 12 Reviews 1756 reads
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1 / 24

(it's up to you to consider the ethics of this.)
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Scientific studies in evolutionary biology have shown that falling in love follows certain patterns.  These conditions can be arranged to allow the pattern to play out, helping assure the desired result.
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The SB/SD arrangement is already halfway there.  It sets up the proximity and intimacy into which the remaining conditions can be achieved seamlessly and naturally.
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The following four tactics assume you have a sexual intimacy before or during. You will mix the following tactics in with your intimate sessions for a week or two.  If love is going to happen, it should develop after that.
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1. Sit closely with them somewhere isolated and with a view, even better if the location is a bit taboo.
2. Hold hands.
3. Make prolonged direct eye contact.
4. Discuss life philosophy, something that induces self-reflection.
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The above is based on the evolutionary biology work of Malcom and Simone Collins as published in The Pragmatist's Guide To Sexuality.
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By the way, they also show that 73% of females are aroused by male dominance. So this should be your normal operating principle.  This merely means you set the agenda, etc. It doesn't mean you slap them around (at least not the ones not into BDSM.)

mrfisher 112 Reviews 126 reads
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2 / 24

All you get is a Platonic relationship and a call in the middle of the night to come get them in a taxi where their "boyfriend" dumped them.

Money is much more effective, believe me.

AnotherDonJohn 78 reads
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3 / 24
lester_prairie 12 Reviews 123 reads
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4 / 24

No, you are already fucking them in the SB/SD relationship.  This is extra credit.

liqq63 19 Reviews 87 reads
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5 / 24

...on what the motivation is for a SB to post on one of those platforms.  Some are of course using the sugar sites as they would any of the other popular internet dating sites, such as Match, or eHarmony.  Their intent is to find a steady companion, a boyfriend, maybe even a husband.  Lots of these gals, especially the more mature ones, may have found themselves excluded because they are unattached and viewed as competition by those who are attached.  And yeah, those four tactics will help move an arrangement more in the direction of a traditional relationship, no doubt about it.      

PolePosition 77 reads
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6 / 24

Agree!  No actually sounds like bad advice given by a ppm person.  LOL

herbtcat 6 Reviews 97 reads
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7 / 24

All four "tactics" are just ways of connecting with someone in a romantic way.  

 
And all of them are aspects of all of my SB arrangements, whenever my SB was open to them.  

 
If you are thinking you need to resort to some douche bag manipulation tactics to get an SB to enjoy being with you, you are still treating your SB's like hookers and are missing out on the true emotional connection which can be achieved with a beautiful 20-ish woman who adores and respects you, in addition to your cash.  

 
This discussion seems like the old PUA psycho-babble manipulation BS with a paint job.  It goes right along side of "peacocking," "negging," and being a disinterested asshole that played out on that MTV show many years back.  

 
Try being honest & transparent (to a point), and be a sincere friend and accepting mentor with your SB.  You'll see her affection for you blossom. Or she will get bored with you and bail for a bigger wallet, saving you form the drama of having to end it when she's not delivering what you want.  

 
Life is good

 
The Cat

sweetman 93 Reviews 101 reads
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8 / 24

I thought the same things as I read the OP post.  I normally do those 4 things as part of simply being myself. Be yourself, be honest, and at least some of the SBs you approach will love that about you.  It's a numbers game anyway.  why bother trying to trick a SB into loving an act you are putting on?  Let her know the real you, as intimately as you are comfortable with. and things will progress nicely from there.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 95 reads
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9 / 24

You can complain about it, but it has been studied and tested.

AnotherDonJohn 86 reads
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10 / 24

Science is clearly not in your area of expertise. In summary, self publishing your own studies as the Collins’ did is not considered credible...

Here’s two quick rules of thumb for you on judging credibility in scientific work:
1. The scientists have built up long reputation of credible scientific work at reputable institutions leading to name recognition by colleagues. This probably leads to speaker awards and other prizes in their day but sometimes it takes a while to become recognized by the world and eventually by HBO (Masters and Johnson). How do you prove this? A survey of the leaders in the field... while imperfect, this is usual the last step of a university tenure process.

To my knowledge, self publishing your work and selling online is NOT considered credible;

2. Peer review in one of the big three journals (Science, Nature, and Cell), especially for groundbreaking conceptual work. Even better if the work survives the test of time and is not retracted upon real world testing by outside colleagues. Not publishing in the big three does not necessarily mean a lack of credibility. (So I’m giving you a “Rule in” condition not a “Rule out” condition, if you’re smart enough to understand that.)

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 84 reads
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11 / 24

It's from a published study by Arthur Aron, State University of New York, at Sony Brook, 1997.  Quite famous.
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Link to the published study below.

GaGambler 101 reads
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12 / 24

Come on WTF? Does anyone really need a full blown study conducted by a couple of pseudo-scientists to figure out that women respond to what has commonly been called "romance" since the beginning of history? DUH

 
And just what does some dopey fucking geek know about "looking deep into a woman's eyes" lol

 
Come on LP, this is the last thing I would expect from a guy who doesn't give a single fuck about a  woman's feelings as long as she sucks your dick. This is something more suited for one of the sappy guys who actually WANTS a hooker/sugar baby to fall in love with him. Did you swallow a bottle of estrogen yesterday? lol

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 132 reads
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13 / 24

It's actually a fascinating book by Malcom and Simone Collins.  Very honest.  Right at the start they say that 50% of published psychological studies cannot be reproduced.  They refer both to published studies and their own research.  They insist that people not just take their word for everything, but go look around for other studies that may contradict.
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On the other hand, 50% of published studies are useful.  So can't just dismiss all of it.
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You complain that everyone knows how do do romance.  This is tragically not the case.  The "nice guy" approach has been a disaster for many young men.  In their companion  book, "The Pragmatist's Guide to Relationships, they strenuously advise against trying to be the submissive nice guy.  These are not a politically correct books -- which is a strong point in their favor.
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I think there are lots of guys that want SB's to fall for them.  I personally don't.  That's why I stepped back from SB's and prefer pros.  But for those seeking real affection, and many suffering from the nice guy BS, finding out what really works ought to be a boon for them.

GaGambler 132 reads
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14 / 24

Of course women want a man with a spine, despite what all the woke hookers on Twatter try to tell you, but that doesn't mean they don't want to be romanced as well.

 
As for your 50-50 statement about studies being useful, That too sounds like shit just pulled out of thin air. Who is to say it's  not 90-10 or 80-20?  

 
I hate to burst your bubble, but I have been advocating pretty much the same thing as your Collins brothers right here on TER for well over 15 years, the sad fact is that the guys who can benefit from such advice aren't capable of utilizing it. You can't teach "game" any more than you can fix stupid.

AnotherDonJohn 109 reads
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15 / 24

Journal of Who gives a Fuck.

Only quite famous if you got an online degree from AZ state university.  

Tell the authors not to hold their breaths for the Karolinska institut to call lol...

girlfan1959 48 Reviews 150 reads
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16 / 24

Be nice, polite, and affectionate with her, and it will happen or it won't. The domination thing is something I have rarely experienced. I have had one relationship with a genuine sub and one with a gal who was more aggressive than I am. Both were among the kinkiest ladies that I have been with. The others have been more equal partnerships in private. She may have no interest in marriage if that is what you are looking for, but that doesn't mean she isn't interested in an ongoing relationship.

Ask about PDAs or just being seen together in public. If she wants it to happen, the being together in public will appeal to her (not necessarily the PDAs). Just let her tell you what she wants, and you will find out where the relationship is going.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 81 reads
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17 / 24

In other words, you got nothing.

AnotherDonJohn 126 reads
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18 / 24

Reading can be yur friend.

Let me summarize from two posts ago for a guy like you:
1. Article you cited is Not from the journals science, cell, or Nature journal... not even from the highest impact journal in that field Psychiatry !
2. I’m in the field with two doctorates both from ivy leagues (people can choose to believe or not believe that statement ) and I tell you the article is as legit as your posts in general. If the authors’ tenure came before me I would reject them...

Yeah, I know... you will repeat the last arguments: 1. The original self published reference is legit. 2. The “study” that did not make high impact journals, which is supposedly “famous,” is legit. Whatever dude. You’re a “Master-debater”.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 101 reads
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19 / 24

Let me know when they publish your rebuttal.  I'll read it with an open mind.

ShockBoogie 43 Reviews 92 reads
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20 / 24

Love this discussion.  And I think many of us here have "Game" which is what the authors of this paper are really espousing.  Whether you get "Game" from trial and error, field research, or reading journals...you have to have it, along with cash money to thrive in the SB.  Helps to have looks and be physically appealing, but there is someone for everyone, so maybe not.  Perhaps the authors could easily have substituted some other independent variable (Tell them what they want to hear, open doors and display chivalry) and arrived at the same conclusion.  Yes, this article is in a throw away journal.  Does not invalidate their findings.  However, I believe the more appropriate application of these techniques is for FWB's/Fuck Buddies/Affair Partners, not SB's.  

PolePosition 98 reads
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21 / 24

Open mind - LOL LOL
Takes one to have one!

AnotherDonJohn 89 reads
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22 / 24

You went propaganda wise to attacking the ‘straw man’ (what does my publishing have to do with your argument) instead, which says your argument sucks fester-hairy dong.  

But yes I’m published in both first author and last author positions... whereas I’m sure you barely rank the Red Shoe Diaries want ads lol.

bassrat51 4 Reviews 89 reads
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23 / 24

All this my dick is bigger than your dick shit you throw at out is tiring.

AnotherDonJohn 110 reads
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24 / 24

You do have a point. Enough unsexy talk.  

I’ve got an SB meet and a POT I’m really looking forward to this weekend:)

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