The Erotic Highway

USA-land of McDonalds
PolePosition 1594 reads
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PolePosition 106 reads
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So, just for fun, decided to search a EU location.
In this case, close to my main girl who is from Belgrade.
Searched within 100 km...so the interesting part is about 80% of the girls are "slim"
Compare this to the USA, about 80% are "athletic" or "average"
Remember taking with GaGa about this a few years ago.
"athletic" are about 10 lbs overweight, "average" about 20 lbs.
It's getting to be really sad.  
I'm getting grossed out how many girls have flesh overflowing their jeans.   LOL

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 113 reads
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3 / 36

As the whole population gets larger, one would expect SB's and escorts to get larger.  Also, I suspect that larger chicks have trouble getting dates from commitment oriented men, so they opt to sell one night stands, rather than give them away free -- thus also explaining the relatively high representation of heavy SB's.

GaGambler 150 reads
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4 / 36

But there is nothing you can do about FAT. I have even had a lot of POT SB's representing themselves as "slim" who can only be objectively described as FAT. Just this last week I have a POT SB who is listed as "slim" admit to me before our initial date that she was Preggo. Curiosity got the best of me so I met her anyhow, (she was in a city about an hour away and I was already in that city to meet up with another POT SB that same day) and she looked like she was due in just a few weeks, I mean WTF???!!!

 
You forgot to mention "curvy", I guess on our scale where athletic is 10 lbs overweight and average is 20 lbs overweight, I guess "curvy" must be code for 40 lbs overweight. lol

PolePosition 136 reads
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5 / 36

Normally, I don't search curvy b/c the ROI is just too low - but, that having been said, occasionally I find a few gems there.
Typically it's the girls with big boobs and a body that's classifiable as athletic.
Unfortunately, it's also the land of the hippos where +40lbs is more the norm.  *eek*

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 113 reads
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6 / 36

who are slender.  Your weight definition for athletic, average and curvy are about the same as mine.  I will take skinny  or athletic, but average and curvy are just not appealing to me.  

herbtcat 6 Reviews 122 reads
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7 / 36

… that I am fat as well (but I have the cash!).  
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I only search for slim or athletic - unless I'm getting a really low number of results.  Interesting that IME, maybe 15%-25% of POT's, especially the new ones, include something in thier profiles like "I prefer fit guys."  My assumption is these POT's a under the fantasy that a "real" SD will always look like Richard Gere.  I give these an insta-pass.  
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The other side of the spectrum are POT's who say something like "looks are not important to me, as long as we connect (or you have a as sense of humor, or you are a gentleman, blah, blah, blah)."  What that really means is "I'm prioritizing for budget, not muscles/youth."  Which is what a POT should do.  
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I'll add the additional observation that her looks do not appear to me to have a high correlation to her willingness to be DTF or how kinky she may be, nor does it (with the exception of LA-10's) affect her allowance expectation. I think there are other factors that affect these aspects much more, like desperation for cash, personal morals, daddy/family issues, and her perception that she is getting her "max value" possible from daddy.  
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Life is good.
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The Cat

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 110 reads
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8 / 36

As a general rule, women don't "settle" downward (hypergamy). If they once got a high reward, they are unlikely to come down except in severe desperation.  

I believe this explains the random price asks from SB's that don't seem to correlate with looks or performance.  Mostly you just have to walk away from the more outlandish ones.

GaGambler 159 reads
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9 / 36

It only takes them about thirty seconds to get accustomed to a higher standard of living or an increase in rates, and they have this uncanny ability to wipe out any memories of their previous lower rate or standard of living, I am sure most of them could pass a lie detector test if asked "Have you always gotten $1,000 a date?" even if they still have a ad up listing themselves for $60 hr. lol

 
Yes, once a woman has it in her mind that she is "worth" a certain amount of money, no matter how little that belief is based in fact or market conditions, only severe desperation can disabuse them from that belief, and trying to convince them otherwise is by and large a waste of time that could be better spent doing ANYTHING else.  

 
Women of course are not the only ones who try to re-write history, but hookers and SB's seem to be the best at completely forgetting "where they come from"

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 126 reads
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10 / 36

As a youth I'd cut my neighbor's grass (the push mower, not motorized) for 25 cents.  As a teen I was a car hop at a restaurant for a buck an hour.  No shame in any of that.  And $60/hr is a good wage relatively speaking.  

My complaint, my advice really, is that SB's and even pros shouldn't leave money on the table.   If some SB wants $1000 for a couple hours and I offer her $300 and she refuses, her take away is $0.  Those couple hours are unlikely to be fill by another SD, so her choice was uneconomical.  Instead of $300 (a good day's pay most professions open to her) she gets nothing

But they let emotion and "pride" get in the way of good business sense.

PolePosition 126 reads
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11 / 36

Last year I pursued this really hot girl I saw coming on at least once a week.  After a couple of texts she said her last guy gave her anything she wanted...shopping,, her rent,, her car...etc.  When I finally  cornered her, she said something like 500 per week...maybe more.  Well, I countered-offered 350, and after several weeks, she said reluctantly 'yes.'
Funny, thing, I guess it was more just the chase, b/c I didn't follow through.  I mean, there's a likely chance she would have eventually replaced me with Mr. Big Bucks. But somehow, I felt I let her down  LOL
She didn't seem so hot afterwards...LOL

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 115 reads
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12 / 36

evaluate "value" without clarifying how many times a week she will see you for the $500 she wanted.  $500 per meet is a little steep in Sugarland, but I know some guys who like PPM more than a weekly or monthly allowance.  To me, it seems they pay more in the long run doing it on a per-meet basis, but they seem to want have the option to get out quickly if they meet someone better and want to switch  girls, and don't want to leave any unused "credits" on the table that they have prepaid.  

 
OTOH, if she is willing to see you three or four times in a week for $500, I don't see a reason to try to negotiate her down further without risking her dumping you the FIRST chance she gets  rather than dumping you "eventually" for a guy who can pay more.  After a few weeks, there is some value in being the guy she can count on to keep the cash flow coming, and she will be less ambitious about throwing you over for a guy who she THINKS can do better, but who has no proven track record like you do with her.  Reliability and consistency have intrinsic value for these girls, as long as the money is enough for them to survive on and pays their bills.  

 
I wouldn't ever believe a girl who said her last SD gave her anything she wanted.  Its just a test to see if you're stupid, desperate, and/or can be manipulated.  Unless it was his first time as an SD, nobody gives a girl whatever she wants.  

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 105 reads
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13 / 36

The key with "the last guy gave me everything" is that, okay where is he now?  I guess it didn't work out so well after all.  What did you do to drive away this gold mine?

But that gets argumentative and that always ends badly, so no point in asking such questions.  Make the offer and move on.  

PolePosition 101 reads
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14 / 36

Yeah, you're pretty much preaching to the choir.  I've more-or-less starting offering 500 per week, even denigrating the PPM guys as 'low life scum"  lol

However, for the past two arrangements, our agreement of a least two meetings per week rapidly deteriorated to an average of only one.  Both girls expected the allowance to be a regular occurrence even though their lovely bodies were not. Equally, both were mortified when I suggested a PPM allowance would be more appropriate.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 105 reads
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15 / 36

Any sort of money given in advance is at extreme risk.  Ppm is really the only way to keep them honest.

GaGambler 179 reads
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16 / 36

I don't mind offering a "weekly allowance" of lets say $500 week. When she comes over on Monday I give her $100, Tuesday $100, Wednesday..... I am sure you can see where this is headed. lol

 
I often ask how much they really need to make ends meet each week/month, and then I tell them how many times a week/month they are going to have to come see me to make that goal. A lot of it also depends on how long they can stay/I want them to stay each time we get together. A lot of the young dumb ones I really only want to see for a booty call, and I am perfectly willing to be their personal ATM, any time they need spending money all they have to do is come by for a quick roll in the hay and I am more than happy to give them a few bucks. Some of these girls end up coming over several times a week, and I am perfectly fine with that. oink oink. lol

 
That said, there are other SBs where we actually have fun together over and above having sex. Those arrangements are usually much different and we spend more time on each date, but rarely do I see any of those girls more than once or at the most twice a week, Anything more than that is like having a GF, and that's the last thing I want in my life right now.

sweetman 93 Reviews 167 reads
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17 / 36

I only do PPM, never a time based allowance.  Yes, part of my reasoning is to jump ship and upgrade, without leaving unused credits on the table,  if I find a better SB.  I'm a horny opportunistic old slut, what can I say. But mostly I'm trying to control my budget as well as their expectation$. I offer $200 ppm and that's what I gift them nearly 100% of the time.  If I was happy with only 1 SB at a time, then $400 or $500 a week might seem ok.  But I'm not.  I usually have several SBs I'm rotating through so I get to spend a reasonable amount of money and enjoy the variety I crave.

And I've been surprisingly successful in ratcheting their expectations downwards. Of course there are lots of SBs who claim their last SD gave them $X0000 every month, it goes with the territory.  It's happy horse shit, and irrelevant anyway.  I offer what I offer.  If they balk at my offer here's what I tell them.  First off I go into detail about how my awesome wife and I are ethically non monogamous and polyamorous.  We make it work, with zero drama jealousy or deceit.  One important factor in making it work is abiding by the agreements we have made.  And one of those agreements is how much and under what circumstance we spend money. I have agreed with my wife never to send money in advance.  And I've agreed to limit my dating to $200ppm.  This seems to stop the SBs negotiating in its tracks.  After all, I'm not denigrating them or denying what "they're worth".  I'm asking them to respect my marriage and usually they say wow what a wonderful relationship you have with your wife.  OK I accept your offer.

sweetman 93 Reviews 115 reads
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18 / 36

Young, slim, gorgeous boobs, face, body, really a 10.  When I asked her why she posted under curvy she said, well because I am curvy!  I explained to her that in Sugarspeak curvy was a euphemism for overweight.  She changed it to slim shortly thereafter and got lots more attention! So I still check curvy every once in a while.  Occasionally it pays off, but I'm never expecting much.

PolePosition 109 reads
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19 / 36

I tend to agree, but it's kinda opened my eyes by something HerbC said.
My ROI on "average" has been very low.
Still hard to view the photos where they're wearing tight shorts and the flesh is overflowing!
It's also occurring to me that most of the fatty girls just pick "average" cause it's easy.
Same way guys might...just might...fudge their age a bit, the girls  have no problems with their weight!
Recently, I've had more success clicking on 'curvy' than 'average'

herbtcat 6 Reviews 121 reads
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20 / 36

Appreciate the shout out.  
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Just an aside; I never trim years off my age. There's no point. And yet, many SB's that I meet, and even civvie women, tell me I look much younger than my age.  Flattery? Of course.  But a savvy POT SB knows that more age generally = more disposable cash.  
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It's also telling to see those profiles that have stated they are looking for younger men, say under 40 or even younger. These chicks are just living in Fantasy Land.  Interestingly, I see about 10% of SD profiles in my area (using my fake SB account) are wannabe ballers under 30 claiming net worth well over $50 million. Sure it's possible. But c'mon!  If you have $50-$100m you have a "person" who recruits your top-shelf companions for you.  
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Still,  
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Life is good
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The Cat

PolePosition 126 reads
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21 / 36

...out of a 26yo girl specifying an age range of 18-32.
Obviously her success with a 30-something will be near zero, but it also begs the question: can a guy younger than the girl truly be a sugar-DADDY?  lol

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 143 reads
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22 / 36

monthly and it doesn't work that well.  The last half of the month you get excuses of why they can't be available when you can, so it drives your brain over to PPM calculations by default.  The only one I had the worked was a girl that I saw twice first at PPM, then when we both wanted to continue, she agreed to take a monthly payment on the 15th for a month that starts on the first.  This way, she is trusting me for the first half of the month, and I am trusting her for the second half.  After much trial and error, I learned that weekly works better if you are paying direct compensation to a girl for sex.  The one I have now is a completely different arrangement, and came about by accident, but its the best one I've been in so far.  

PolePosition 138 reads
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23 / 36

haven't done this so much to where I've become much of a connoisseur of this behavior...and of course, we all know "you pay a whore to leave and a SB to stay," but it's becoming more prevalent that the fun girls do stay around while the others take a shower and leave!  I haven't based my allowance schedule so much off this - but thanks, I think I should!!

PolePosition 111 reads
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24 / 36

So, again in a moment of boredom, searched the next 50 girls in my area (Phx) that list themselves as "average."
20 are morbidly overweight, waaaaay past 'curvy'.  Not to be raciest, but nearly all Latino are such.
15 are definitely overweight and badly out of shape.
10 are overflowing their cutoff's but manageably so.
5 are quite nice.
Thinking it would be nice to have another measure of fattiness.  Maybe dress size?   LOL

bassrat51 5 Reviews 108 reads
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25 / 36

Maybe their dress maker, Omar the tent maker, could provide their tent size, I mean dress size.🤣

MDraft 103 reads
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26 / 36

I hunt in the same forest and definitely concur. In fact 5 is good. Conversely if you search on "slim" I would say 70% are not.  My last set of m&g's had 3 "slims" in a row that turned out to be fatties, one with a double chin. I have a m&g scheduled next week but she won't send me any full length photos. She already deleted her profile on SA. I'm wondering if I should cancel.

GaGambler 146 reads
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27 / 36

but every good gambler knows to hedge his bets every once in a while, especially when the odds are against him.

 
I would suggest you have a back up plan if she turns out to be a porker. It's the reason I still keep one foot in the hooker world while getting most of my action from the Sugar World.  If there is a reliable agency in your town, you might ask them if they take short notice appointments, or have your M&G with the POT SB right across the street from your favorite AMP. lol

 
If no back up plans present themselves, and/or if going on a date with a fatty is going to ruin your night, I would strongly consider insisting on a full length pic before showing up for your date, especially if you have to do any traveling to get there.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 114 reads
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29 / 36

In that link picture, I'm actually open to most except 6 and 7.  Unfortunately a lot of SB's are 6's on the way to 7's.    Also unfortunately there is this new "fat is beautiful" movement or "beauty is a social construct" movement.  So these girls aren't getting the message to reign in their appetites and they just keep blowing up bigger and bigger.  And forget about looks, it's just plain unhealthy.  Guess what, health isn't a social construct.

impposter 49 Reviews 126 reads
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30 / 36

I have to mention that those (and other) great suggestions were from the days of TER reviews when the clients would be submitting the info and would be, one hopes, somewhat reliable. If an SB voluntarily mentions her BMI or a silhouette match in her listing it could still prove to be, eh, an optimistic and unreliable representation.
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(Other suggestions for a revamped reviewing method: replace "race" with "complexion" and "hair color" from 1-10 color palettes, not subjective adjectives.)

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 122 reads
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31 / 36

SB's trolling SA for a SD would knowing lie about their looks?!!  I'm shocked, shocked, I say!!!!!

 
Race and complexion are two different things.  I have seen girls of ALL races who had acne, so how would you describe their "complexion".  Hair color is important to us customers.  We all have preferences, but some people see colors differently that others, so it will never be reliable.  As far as we customers go, "Hair" when applied to us is only a yes or no question.  

impposter 49 Reviews 121 reads
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32 / 36

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Race and complexion are two different things.  I have seen girls of ALL races who had acne, so how would you describe their "complexion".  Hair color is important to us customers.  We all have preferences, but some people see colors differently that others, so it will never be reliable.  As far as we customers go, "Hair" when applied to us is only a yes or no question.  
See many discussions on S&P about "Ethnicity" and other screwy items on the TER review form. Ethnicity is meaningless and was a mish mash of nationality, possible ethnic background and so on. Search S&P for the word "complexion" and author = impposter.  I often posted different color charts like the one below.  The TER review form offers "South American" as a choice. Providers from Brazil can vary from Espresso to Coconut. Come to think of it, true African American Providers can vary from Espresso to Coconut!  
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The "Complexion" suggestion from those old posts and the current context is about skin color or skin tone, NOT a dermatological diagnosis. And the larger context is about using color charts or silhouette tables or IMAGE CHOICES to describe our hostesses and to COMPLETELY AVOID ambiguous adjectives (thin or skinny or slender?).  Some other posts with charts and colors:
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http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/is-complexion-too-complex-for-the-review-form-15848?page=

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/suggestion-and-policy-4/silhouettes-complexion-chart-hair-color-chart-16055?page=
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I hope that TER will someday soon return to being a useful review site and adopt all of my great suggestions -- and everyone knows they are the best suggestions ever.  If and when, TER should put me in charge of the revamp.

-- Modified on 6/9/2019 9:56:12 PM

GaGambler 127 reads
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33 / 36

Others are not, but the one thing I think we can all agree on is that you have a LOT of ideas on the subject. lol

 
Personally, while I think the current TER system lacks a certain nuance, "ethnicity" is just as useful as "complexion" many ethnicities share a common skin color, but are VERY different in many other ways. "South American" for example is a lot different than "Mexican" or "Spanish" or even "Indian/Arab/Carribean etc.  

 
The biggest problem of course is GIGO, a lot of guys can't even tell a B cup from a D, how are they expected to follow a hundred different charts like you have proposed over the years? Not to mention even more guys have no taste and EVERY woman looks great to them. Those problems can never be cured by your various charts, as for the TER revamp, I emphatically vote NO where it comes to having Imp in charge. You would make things so complicated that no one would ever bother writing a new review ever again. lol

impposter 49 Reviews 131 reads
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34 / 36

Posted By: GaGambler
Re: "Some" of your ideas are valid
Others are not, but the one thing I think we can all agree on is that you have a LOT of ideas on the subject.
I'll take "valid" as a compliment from GaG!
Personally, while I think the current TER system lacks a certain nuance, "ethnicity" is just as useful as "complexion" many ethnicities share a common skin color, but are VERY different in many other ways. "South American" for example is a lot different than "Mexican" or "Spanish" or even "Indian/Arab/Carribean etc.
There were the old problems such as trying to check boxes for, let's say, a dark skinned Londoner. Is she "English"? Some would choose "African American" when there is zero American in her background or culture. That's why the Appearance options should be more precise, facilitated by a chart. Some guys LOVE Espresso; others LOVE Mocha but not Espresso;  "AA" or "English" doesn't help with that. (A note to newbies or those who forget: some of us would START our search with reviews before clicking on websites. No photos! Searching a range of "Espresso to Hazelnut" and "South American" (or "English") would narrow down the choices to reviews to read and THEN the links to click on to see photos.)  "Native American"????? Many guys think that means "indigenous people" = pre-Columbus, pre-Viking "Indians"; others think it means "a 1st or later generation white girl, even if her parents came here directly from Italy or Germany or Iceland."
The biggest problem of course is GIGO, a lot of guys can't even tell a B cup from a D, how are they expected to follow a hundred different charts like you have proposed over the years?
Well, I think it's only three charts: silhouette (for "Build" (body type) to replace the stupid thin skinny slender muscular ... choices); skin tone (to replace the mish mash Ethnicity choices: you can't be both White AND South American?); a hair color chart just because it would be easy and less ambiguous than the current list.  
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EDIT: Also check out my old suggestion to bring along a TER branded digital luggage scale - tape measure. Before you leave, hoist her up to get her weight (auto-stored) and measure her height (auto-stored) to auto-compute her BMI. Enter that very important BMI value into your review!  (If there were accurate BMI stats in the Profiles, can you imagine how the searching would go? "Search BMI = 19-24" ... "Searched 1,000,000 reviews; 247 found."
Not to mention even more guys have no taste and EVERY woman looks great to them. Those problems can never be cured by your various charts, as for the TER revamp, I emphatically vote NO where it comes to having Imp in charge. You would make things so complicated that no one would ever bother writing a new review ever again. lol
I think we should put it to a vote. My main concern is Russian or Baltic interference in the election: there is currently no choice for Hungary or Romania or Czech and those are neither Russian nor Baltic!

-- Modified on 6/10/2019 6:03:10 PM

PolePosition 143 reads
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35 / 36

...so just for interest, do a search in Milano.
Find no less than 30 fabulous slim girls.
Hate it here in this USA cesspool!!

GaGambler 113 reads
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36 / 36

You get to see new places, eat new food, drink new drinks and fuck new women.

 
That said, I would hardly call the USA a cesspool, and EVERY city of any size in the USA is going to have just as many lovelies as a city like Milan. Not to take anything away from Italy and the gorgeous Italian women of course.

 
One thing you might keep in mind if you have any problems with the Milanese SB's, Lugano Switzerland is barely an hour away and it features an international smorgasbord of sex workers. It it like an international version of the old Del Rey in Costa Rica, it's perfectly legal, very affordable, and it has the added benefit of having every flavor of pussy you could ever desire.  

 
Hopefully the beautiful creatures in Milan will have you too busy to even think about going anywhere else, but just in case you need a back up plan, Lugano is a fantastic alternative.

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