Any of you ever give up on otherwise great SBs, because of filthy conditions in their apartments?
I did, twice. First was a lovely looking Latina SB. Nice photos online and turned out even better in person - pretty and great body. After some texting, she agreed to a M&G. Turned out she was a very recent CSU grad, working from home, and ate her lunches in her apartment. So instead of meeting for coffee, she wanted me to meet her at her place during her lunch break. Unusual, but a great sign, right? So I go over to meet her one day. Turns out to be a good 1-bedroom apartment, what you might expect for a recent grad who had found a good job. And indeed she was eating her lunch in the kitchen area . The living room and kitchen area were well kept. So we start talking, and after some time, I can't remember how long, she reached over and grabbed me by the crotch. Only woman to have ever done that to me. She proceeded to lead me to the bedroom, still by my crotch! Nice bed and bedroom. And she was even nicer - great body, and great oral in particular. She was into making things disappear. Well, finally things came to a climax, and then subsided. Time for her to get back to work, and for me to clean up and take a leak. That is when it all fell apart. The bathroom, and the toilet in particular - just filthy. I just about ran out of there. Never saw here again - how could I trust the hygiene of a woman who kept a bathroom in such a filthy state? I never forgot her, as I had thought she would be a great keeper.One of my Porn Star SB's (Blond, blue eyes, slim, 5'6" 29 years) left my house this morning after an overnight. I went to tidy up my master bathroom and found she had used 4 bath towels. Two were fresh towels I had hung on a wall rack for her, and she had also grabbed two more from my closet. My bathroom trash can was full with various hair and skin care product boxes and wrappers, my tissue box was empty (and not tossed in the trash), and all my shower stuff was moved off the shower shelves onto the shower floor. In the kitchen, she had decided to make a midnight snack from two frozen burritos (never heard the microwave!) and a bottle of wine - all left half consumed in my fridge.
Last week one of my newest SB's used a full roll of TP for - well I'm not really sure. She also borrowed my razor and shave cream, and rather than using the new toothbrush and travel-size toothpaste I had laid out on the counter in a carrying case, went into my cabinet and opened a new package of brushes, a new large tube of toothpaste, and a new deodorant.
A few weeks ago, I had a 1st time SB over for a 3-hour BCD. She used my bathroom to tidy up as well. After she left by Uber I went into my bathroom and found that all the towels (2 fresh bath, my used and hanging bath, 4 wash clothes, and 2 of 3 hand towels) were on the floor of my shower fully soaked in water.
Now I am generally happy to host at my place for several reasons like saving hotel costs, parking fees, the convenience of "home delivery", having my supplies (lube, toys, etc.) ready and nearby, etc.
BUT - I am starting to appreciate the benefits of hotels again.
Life is good, but you better like doing laundry.
The Cat
I'm not going to respond to the housekeeping/housecleaning drama.
Instead, I want to comment on something I mentioned before. That is the risk of hosting these dates at home. I can't quite figure out if you are just lucky, or have some sixth sense that allows you to avoid trouble.
There is another board for discussing sugar dating. Different vibe than here. But on that board, multiple SDs have reported bad outcomes to having girls over. Several different bad outcomes:
- Cash and dash (guess that can happen anywhere)
- Larceny, by the SB
- Larceny, by the SB + "friend" who appears uninvited, such as Travis.
- Casing the joint for a later burglary.
Newspaper articles exist where much worse occurred - assaults and even murders.
As I understand it, our resident Cat resides in greater LA, and some of your dates are not exactly from a privileged background. I am just amazed that you have avoided any such events over the years.
These words to the wise have been no doubt learned the hard way! But I too have been inviting SBs to my home pretty regularly, and never had the kind of problems either you or Herb have described. I will say that I'm pretty darn selective, and only invite them over when we've already established a good friendship, in addition to the sexual [part of our relationship. Still, being careful is a good idea. And maybe one more good reason I enjoy using the RV for sugar dates. No hotel costs and no home invasion threats!
Your caution and comments are valid. I have indeed suffered a cash & dash from my home in LA, and years ago in my apartment in San Jose. But I have sharpened my radar and Spidey senses since those events.
I don't dig too deep into my home-based OpSec process, but I do take many precautions. The biggest is a background check then a M&G in public, typically miles away from my home prior to a future invite to my place for BCD. In addition, I have an external surveillance system that allows me to see who is approaching my home and I have security doors front and back that will stop all but a heavy brute force attempt to enter.
Absolute protection? Definitely not. But like everything in life, risk with appropriate mitigation is part of the cycle. Most of the risks you list exist wherever you meet.
Life is good
The Cat
I hear you Dick, and point well taken. I generally entertain over at my house and have never had problems. None have stayed the night which would worry me more if I fell asleep. Having said that I am more fearful of M&Gs. I went on one and we met in a pizza place/bar. It didn't go especially well and there was a "misunderstanding" about whether I should be paying for a M&G. I declined to do so, she left, I settled up the bill and when I walked to my car parked around the corner on a side street a burly guy came up and started beating on me. We tussled, fell on the ground and he grabbed my wallet and ran to a car parked nearby and sped off. He dislocated my shoulder. Called the cops, filed a report. Later got interviewed by a detective and I gave him the info I had on her. He doubted I'd see my wallet returned. We figured out it was a setup from the beginning especially as I put my wallet in an unusual pocket so the only way someone would find it is if they knew. She and her accomplice had obviously observed me when I arrived to know where I parked and then she through the evening. So now I establish Opsec rules for M&Gs. Sad to have to do that.
I've watched a new roll of TP disappear into the ether within seconds of a gal stepping into my home.
WTF?
I get about a month out of roll!
Come clean with us, mrfisher.
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To last a month, do you use those extra large jumbo rolls?
I've watched a new roll of TP disappear into the ether within seconds of a gal stepping into my home.
WTF?
I get about a month out of roll!
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but to be honest, I usually wait till I get to the office to unload my burdens.
I'm a typical frugal New Englander.
So when you get to work, you log in?
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At the end of the workday, do you log out?
but to be honest, I usually wait till I get to the office to unload my burdens.
I'm a typical frugal New Englander.
I"m far too ethical to even think of purloining the TP.
My conscience would give me away in a NY minute. Not to mention the bulge in my pants.*
I'd probably be caught and fired, like the idiot who worked at a bank and got fired for stealing pencils.
*No penis-size jokes, si-vous-plais.
I mean you are just trying to "get the lead" out of hard position.
I mean you wood-shed that really well.
But yeah, I get the point.
.... sorry. :P
Life is good
The Cat
When she comes over the day after I had a BCD. She always rolls her eyes and laughs.
"Did you have to sleep on the same sheets you fucked her on?"
One of my Porn Star SB's (Blond, blue eyes, slim, 5'6" 29 years) left my house this morning after an overnight. I went to tidy up my master bathroom and found she had used 4 bath towels. Two were fresh towels I had hung on a wall rack for her, and she had also grabbed two more from my closet. My bathroom trash can was full with various hair and skin care product boxes and wrappers, my tissue box was empty (and not tossed in the trash), and all my shower stuff was moved off the shower shelves onto the shower floor. In the kitchen, she had decided to make a midnight snack from two frozen burritos (never heard the microwave!) and a bottle of wine - all left half consumed in my fridge.
Last week one of my newest SB's used a full roll of TP for - well I'm not really sure. She also borrowed my razor and shave cream, and rather than using the new toothbrush and travel-size toothpaste I had laid out on the counter in a carrying case, went into my cabinet and opened a new package of brushes, a new large tube of toothpaste, and a new deodorant.
A few weeks ago, I had a 1st time SB over for a 3-hour BCD. She used my bathroom to tidy up as well. After she left by Uber I went into my bathroom and found that all the towels (2 fresh bath, my used and hanging bath, 4 wash clothes, and 2 of 3 hand towels) were on the floor of my shower fully soaked in water.
Now I am generally happy to host at my place for several reasons like saving hotel costs, parking fees, the convenience of "home delivery", having my supplies (lube, toys, etc.) ready and nearby, etc.
BUT - I am starting to appreciate the benefits of hotels again.
Life is good, but you better like doing laundry.
The Cat
What in the actual fuck!? What are those folks thinking? FFS.
Luckily, it's just excess towel and toiletries use and nothing worse. Good for you.
Some of these gals, particularly the younger ones seem to have little sense of organization and finesse. I call them 'Pigpen Playmates.' They are sometimes pre-vetted by their profile photos in which, as Herb has noted in previous posts, shows various levels of chaos behind them in the form of dirty laundry, empty shampoo bottles and disorganized paraphernalia strewn about in the background.
To me, being tidy comes down to simple manners and common sense, particularly when in someone else's domain.
Common sense is not so common for quite a few. A disorganized environment often is an indicator of a disorganized mind and even worse, questionable hygiene.
So far I've only used hotels for sugar meets so there is not much to make a mess of other than a few towels. Most hotels have the toiletries locked into pump decanters bolted to the wall so as to be theft and pigpen-playmate proof.
The missing toilet paper referenced here is no doubt the result of the notorious 'TP Cartel Gang' known to operate nationwide and across international borders. This all-girl team has been known to 'disappear' whole rolls of TP from bathrooms in homes and hotels and never leave a trace, leaving their poor victims stranded on the seat of despair.
Screen well for this, gents. Be very specific at the M&G. Ask her 'Are you, or have you ever been a member of the TP Cartel or do you have any affiliations with them?' If she hesitates... if she refuses eye contact... should she stutter in the least her guilt is palpable and she should be an instant next.
Life is too short to be without TP when you need it the most.
As for these 'Pigpen Playmates,' I'd advise not marrying them.
Wipe them clean with a damp cloth and send them on their merry way.
"the seat of despair" hahahahah,lol
Wipe them clean with a damp cloth and send them on their merry way.
Life is good
The Cat
A learned experience from the great TP shortage during Covid. Some of the younger gals were at a tender age, and now TP hoarding is burned into their character. But look on the bright side - they will leave thinking you are abundant in TP and will want to repeat!
Indeed, DE! I was thinking perhaps this could be used as a marketing tool for attracting such TP-deprived POTS. We see they post photos of themselves standing in front of luxury cars and designer shops. For my profile I could have a photo of me standing in front of the Scott Paper Corporation and claim I'm the CEO.
Any of you ever give up on otherwise great SBs, because of filthy conditions in their apartments?
I did, twice. First was a lovely looking Latina SB. Nice photos online and turned out even better in person - pretty and great body. After some texting, she agreed to a M&G. Turned out she was a very recent CSU grad, working from home, and ate her lunches in her apartment. So instead of meeting for coffee, she wanted me to meet her at her place during her lunch break. Unusual, but a great sign, right? So I go over to meet her one day. Turns out to be a good 1-bedroom apartment, what you might expect for a recent grad who had found a good job. And indeed she was eating her lunch in the kitchen area . The living room and kitchen area were well kept.
So we start talking, and after some time, I can't remember how long, she reached over and grabbed me by the crotch. Only woman to have ever done that to me. She proceeded to lead me to the bedroom, still by my crotch! Nice bed and bedroom. And she was even nicer - great body, and great oral in particular. She was into making things disappear. Well, finally things came to a climax, and then subsided. Time for her to get back to work, and for me to clean up and take a leak. That is when it all fell apart. The bathroom, and the toilet in particular - just filthy. I just about ran out of there. Never saw here again - how could I trust the hygiene of a woman who kept a bathroom in such a filthy state? I never forgot her, as I had thought she would be a great keeper.
The filthy bathroom would be turn off for me as well, for the same reasons. I've never encountered it, but I have encountered other forms of pigpen behavior. One delightful ltr I have is with a mid 20s single Mom who often invites me to her apartment. Just a freaking mess! Piles of laundry on the floor and on every chair, kids toys all over the LR floor, I mean, it would have been impossible to walk across the room, just "stuff" everywhere. The toilet was clean and the bedding was clean. And the girl herself is always freshly showered, so I averted my gaze and enjoyed her. She's since moved to a new apartment, but sad to report, her housekeeping skills have not improved. Her bedroom skills remain off the charts though!