I am a normal 25 year old grad student. I have already been in a couple relationships. I have also hobby'd a couple times. I would like to hobby more but most provider ads request "mature, upscale gentleman" and rarely give numbers on age.

I certainly behave maturely and I am well-educated, but I am reluctant to contact providers because of them rejecting me based on age. In addition my work info will be my university ...

What do you providers out there think? Should I hobby more or wait a few years? What is the typical age of a hobbyist?

there are woman in this hobby who do not have an age preference I suggest that you see woman who do not set age limits. I hear all the time it does not seem fair for us to set limits, its not really about being fair, it's about preferences. Gentlemen see the ladies who interest them, we are no different.
There are many woman who will see you at your age.  I think you should not take it as a shun and keep looking.  Good luck...

Dear indianguy1983,

No one can tell you whether or not you should hobby, that is up to you. But at the same time, you probably understand that the world runs on averages, hunches, stereotypes and perceptions as much as it runs on specific rules inspired by stats, however interpreted or even homecooked. And many providers simply will not see guys under 30 (or even 40, as this board has witnessed) because they feel/believe that overall, younger guys are not as polite, courteous, relaxed, trustworty, discreet, kind, safe - I could go on and on but I'm sure you get my drift. Hence, rather than worrying about any of the above, these providers have simply set a rule - no one under X amount of years old. It's like the actuarian tables of an insurance company - why are premiums the highest for men 16-30, and go down significantly for guys over 40? Risk factor, my friend. You could be the safest driver in the world and be 25, but the insurance company still has its rules.

Also, with being a student there is a screening issue. Unless full-time employment can be verified discreetly and completely, how does a provider know that you're not employed by law enforcement AND also a student? Unless she can verify full-time employment at a suitable place of business, she may not want to meet with you. And, if you're making extra money delivering pizzas (just an example, please), she may not want to meet with you because of that. Providers need to feel secure and comfortable, since they are selling services that involve their physical bodies. Knowing that a potential client has a regular position of some longevity in an established place of business is one more indicator that contributes to feeling just a little safer for the ladies.

Now, in my own personal old-lady opinion, I think students should try to get laid for free, since most students generally don't have loads of pocketmoney to play with. It's good socialization training trying to screw civvies. It builds character and experience ! But if you must see escorts, for whatever reason, I guess your best bet is to keep on trying, knowing that you will get turned down with some frequency. It's nothing personal, just the way the stats work against you at the moment. Check back in another 10 years when you're putting your wonderful degree to work in a superior working environment, and you'll see that providers won't be a problem.

They wouldn't give me a Sears card when I was 25 and I still get mad when I think about it
the Love Goddess

LG - I know exactly where you are coming from on the Sears card - LOL.

I too was turned down for a Sears card when I was about the same age as you. I took out my revenge (so to speak) by not shopping there. I was mad as hell then and while I mostly got over the mental angst of the perceived slight, I still avoid shopping there. While I don't think Sears missed me all that much, I think they would love to have me back now. And I'd refuse.
My SO just doesn't get that and every once in awhile she drags me there to shop.

So my advice to you is: chin up, carry on, and know your not alone.

Time may still heal that wound.

C_K

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I was lucky enough to be stationed in Germany from ages 18-22 where the hobby was legal and the exchange rate was 2 for 1, allowing me to hobby for an average of $25.00 per session. I came home broke but very happy.

I'm now 43, and during my hobbying (including Germany), I have consistently maintained civilian relationships and had absolutely no problem meeting girls and getting laid.  I, personally, hobby for reasons other than just sex.

If you enjoy the hobby, don't worry about your age. If you can't find many independents to see, set yourself up with a couple of agencies.  Agencies don't usually care how old you are, and, depending on your area, you will be able to find very high quality providers through the agency.

Good luck

... then I think you are too young to hobby. It is too easy to see an escort. If you are afraid of being rejected by an escort, then how are you with civie ladies? You are at the age where you are still developing your social skills, and ways that you will relate with ladies, and SO's, for the long term. Seeing an escort will short-circuit the learning process.

Get over your fear of meeting ladies. Develop a healthy way to relate to women. Then you are ready to hobby to fill in the times between relationships.

Just my 2 cents. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

in 1971.  I just don't remember those 4 or 5  years very well. Well there was the time on my way home from a Led Zepplin concert that, well no use going into that
Now except for my hobby dates I pretty much take matters into my own hands. Each date is a pretty big deal to me, an experience, and not just a couple of hours getting laid.

...young guys are pretty swell, too.  I don't think there are any hard limits on the age a hobbyist can be, but yes, I think providers are getting pickier.

If you find no specific age limit on a provider's site, shoot her an e-mail, and ask if your age is an issue upfront.  I understand the fear of rejection is unpleasant, but eventually, through sheer persistence, you are bound to find a provider who will jump at the chance to spend some time with a young gentleman such as yourself.

As long as you dress well and act like a gentleman (and can afford this lifestyle), it shouldn't be an issue.

I have seen many ladies sites and posts that state they will not see men under certain ages.  Many will not see men under 30, or 35.

Of course, OTOH, there are also many ladies who post no age limitation of the gents.

Your advice about dress and behavior is something all of us need to remember, whether veteran hobbyist or newbie.

Swim

I say if you are respectful and you don't mind giving the provider the info she needs to verify you are not a safety hazard...then by all means hobby. I don't mind the young ones as long as they are respectful and cooperative w/screening.

It has been the experience of several providers I know that the younger they are the lower the respect level for the provider.

you should feel  comfortable enough to choose a provider of choice. the provider and yoursself of legal age etc upscale gentlemen well i believe there is good in everyone . obviously you need to have verifiable info on yourself ie: ter handle etc. yet, some providers are out there for the black american express and others are true providers that want hobbyists to feel gfe as it should be . ofcourse time is money as in any profession ie attorney . but lets all be real blue collar white collar as long as your kind and healthy and not a crazy stalker .you sound like a gentleman.

Some providers who are young like me and in school worry about the guy thinking the appointment is more than just that and will want a relationship ...  However, I have never had this concern.  It's all about fun, right?  

I am a grad student myself and have actually met hobbyists that recently graduated from my vry school and were out in the world working.  That may be a little too close for comfort for some, but if she's discreet like me than she shouldn't be worried.

Some of the robbers, especialy in Philly, seem to appear less than 35 years old.  That is always a concern and I never take a risk with someone who sounds young and immature on the phone.

I would just try to contact ladies that see open-minded and don't say the 30 and older thing.  There is no age limit or minimum set by a trylu open-minded and attentive provider.  But it is like the difference between outcall and incall -- some providers do both, but others will only do one or the other.  Preference.

Find someone who fits YOUR description of an ideal date.  Don't try to make yourself fit our description.  It's your $ & time, and you should get what you want (if it's out there; a very important detail).  

Good luck!